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Posted by Maria3667 on October 22, 2008, at 14:14:09
Dear all,
Not to the surprise of many on this board I suppose, I had a nasty childhood. Loads of neglect, beating and other hardships.
I do have a family, but they are cold hearted, disinterested in me and not very involved in my life in general. I often feel rejected by them. They forget my birthday or give prevelance to go to a business party instead of my party...I'm wondering if medication is effective against this horrible feeling of rejection? Storm clouds gather overhead... I got no control. Down the drain I go...
Currently I'm on 600-900 mgs of Seroquel, 3 mg Ativan and 100 mg of Trazodone. But I still often feel hurt, cry at the drop of a hat and am very sensitive to rejection (or the interpretation there of). It's like all 'bullits' (nasty remarks, ignorance) go straight for the heart... Would there be medication warding this off?? Even if it's only a little...
Any clues welcome!
Maria
Posted by sam K on October 22, 2008, at 14:51:04
In reply to Is medication effective against rejection too?, posted by Maria3667 on October 22, 2008, at 14:14:09
hey I am sensitive to rejection too. Ive been on lithium for a week or two and it really seems to help that. Im not sure if what I have is the same as you though. I find it really hard to describe. But Im very sensitive if someone calls me a name, if I tell a bad joke, if Im told to shut up.
Posted by Maria3667 on October 22, 2008, at 14:59:50
In reply to Re: Is medication effective against rejection too?, posted by sam K on October 22, 2008, at 14:51:04
Hi Sam,
Well, sounds pretty much similar. I thought it was easier for the guys, guess I'm wrong!
How did you get the Lithium prescribed? You're not bothered by the side effects (weight gain & libido problems)?
Love,
Maria> hey I am sensitive to rejection too. Ive been on lithium for a week or two and it really seems to help that. Im not sure if what I have is the same as you though. I find it really hard to describe. But Im very sensitive if someone calls me a name, if I tell a bad joke, if Im told to shut up.
Posted by bulldog2 on October 22, 2008, at 17:01:41
In reply to Is medication effective against rejection too?, posted by Maria3667 on October 22, 2008, at 14:14:09
> Dear all,
>
> Not to the surprise of many on this board I suppose, I had a nasty childhood. Loads of neglect, beating and other hardships.
> I do have a family, but they are cold hearted, disinterested in me and not very involved in my life in general. I often feel rejected by them. They forget my birthday or give prevelance to go to a business party instead of my party...
>
> I'm wondering if medication is effective against this horrible feeling of rejection? Storm clouds gather overhead... I got no control. Down the drain I go...
>
> Currently I'm on 600-900 mgs of Seroquel, 3 mg Ativan and 100 mg of Trazodone. But I still often feel hurt, cry at the drop of a hat and am very sensitive to rejection (or the interpretation there of). It's like all 'bullits' (nasty remarks, ignorance) go straight for the heart... Would there be medication warding this off?? Even if it's only a little...
>
> Any clues welcome!
> Maria
>I've read ssris and maois are effective for rejection sensitivity. Seems to be a serotonin related issue.
Posted by seldomseen on October 22, 2008, at 17:37:31
In reply to Is medication effective against rejection too?, posted by Maria3667 on October 22, 2008, at 14:14:09
Wow! If that could be bottled in a pill, I would certainly take it.
I doubt a medication is going to fix your family, or your reaction to them.
Have you considered psychotherapy? Maybe develop some coping and self soothing skills?
Posted by Phillipa on October 22, 2008, at 18:16:59
In reply to Re: Is medication effective against rejection too? » Maria3667, posted by seldomseen on October 22, 2008, at 17:37:31
So sorry to hear have you considered posting on Phychology board. Just a though. Phillipa
Posted by Sigismund on October 22, 2008, at 18:26:04
In reply to Is medication effective against rejection too?, posted by Maria3667 on October 22, 2008, at 14:14:09
There are certainly drugs that make you indifferent to rejection, but they are all illegal because everyone wants to take too much of them, being in the condition we are.
And then there's Nardil with its side effects.
And then there's therapy, which I don't think helped me greatly with it.
Posted by bulldog2 on October 22, 2008, at 18:42:01
In reply to Re: Is medication effective against rejection too?, posted by Sigismund on October 22, 2008, at 18:26:04
> There are certainly drugs that make you indifferent to rejection, but they are all illegal because everyone wants to take too much of them, being in the condition we are.
>
> And then there's Nardil with its side effects.
>
> And then there's therapy, which I don't think helped me greatly with it.I got a lot of ah ha's on therapy. Understood what was causing the problems but just didn't make it go away. Yes those illiegal drugs. Nothing like a couple of percocet for a respite.
Posted by Phillipa on October 22, 2008, at 20:30:28
In reply to Re: Is medication effective against rejection too?, posted by bulldog2 on October 22, 2008, at 18:42:01
Agree Phillipa
Posted by sam K on October 22, 2008, at 21:41:12
In reply to Re: Is medication effective against rejection too?, posted by Maria3667 on October 22, 2008, at 14:59:50
I got lithium because I may be bipolar. Its not too bad. Dont pass it up, its just a salt. I dont really feel like Im taking anything. Im just more calm and solid. Theres not any weight gain at all really. But I do have an eating disorder, so Ill complain if theres a 5 pound weight gain. But no nothing that bad at all. As for libido, its the same if not better. Lithium is made out to be wayyyyyyyyyy to scary. I really hope you find a solution!!
Posted by Quintal on October 23, 2008, at 1:25:31
In reply to Is medication effective against rejection too?, posted by Maria3667 on October 22, 2008, at 14:14:09
I find myself getting more and more callous the older I get, and that helps. MAOIs and SSRIs are supposed to be good for rejection. Probably Nardil and Paxil are the most effective.
Q
Posted by raisinb on October 23, 2008, at 10:58:04
In reply to Is medication effective against rejection too?, posted by Maria3667 on October 22, 2008, at 14:14:09
Well, this is only anecdotal, but I think mine does.
After deciding to try pharmaceuticals about five months ago, I realized how depressed I'd been for--well, many years. A therapist suggested that my depression had started in adolescence, and I realized she was right. For me depression leads to self-hatred leads to severe rejection sensitivity. When my meds are working I guess I can notice things that I might find rejecting, but I balance them with the caring things that I can also see. When depressed, I don't see caring, and if I do, it makes no difference.
Posted by yxibow on October 31, 2008, at 1:57:41
In reply to Is medication effective against rejection too?, posted by Maria3667 on October 22, 2008, at 14:14:09
> Dear all,
>
> Not to the surprise of many on this board I suppose, I had a nasty childhood. Loads of neglect, beating and other hardships.
> I do have a family, but they are cold hearted, disinterested in me and not very involved in my life in general. I often feel rejected by them. They forget my birthday or give prevelance to go to a business party instead of my party...
>
> I'm wondering if medication is effective against this horrible feeling of rejection? Storm clouds gather overhead... I got no control. Down the drain I go...
>
> Currently I'm on 600-900 mgs of Seroquel, 3 mg Ativan and 100 mg of Trazodone. But I still often feel hurt, cry at the drop of a hat and am very sensitive to rejection (or the interpretation there of). It's like all 'bullits' (nasty remarks, ignorance) go straight for the heart... Would there be medication warding this off?? Even if it's only a little...
>
> Any clues welcome!
> Maria
>
I would really suggest going the therapy way -- you might have some PTSD from all of this, but you're on quite a load of very sleepy medications.I'm curious why the Seroquel is so high if its purely for this -- that doesn't seem necessary unless you have a powerful anxiety disorder with psychosis features or some other such offlabel condition.
Ultimately, by exploring the source of all of this psychologically you may find much more than in a set of pills -- not that I'm saying you might not need something for anxiety because I'm sensing some panic from this perhaps.
Its contrite, but there isn't a pill for every psychological scenario -- unfortunately I know that insurance doesn't pay for what should be the case, therapy sessions.
Just my take
-- Jay
Posted by Maria3667 on October 31, 2008, at 13:54:45
In reply to Re: Is medication effective against rejection too? » Maria3667, posted by yxibow on October 31, 2008, at 1:57:41
Hey Jay,
Thanks for thinking with me.
I know about the PTSD. That's why the Seroquel is so high, because of severe anxiety.
My body has become accustomed to the meds, hence don't feel sleepy at all...
I've been in therapy for 20 years now. So far all I've reached is a slight improvement... maybe I should accept that and try to be happy with it??? Instead of hunting after a larger goal -> happiness in general. Out of reach, probably.
Take care,
Maria> > Dear all,
> >
> > Not to the surprise of many on this board I suppose, I had a nasty childhood. Loads of neglect, beating and other hardships.
> > I do have a family, but they are cold hearted, disinterested in me and not very involved in my life in general. I often feel rejected by them. They forget my birthday or give prevelance to go to a business party instead of my party...
> >
> > I'm wondering if medication is effective against this horrible feeling of rejection? Storm clouds gather overhead... I got no control. Down the drain I go...
> >
> > Currently I'm on 600-900 mgs of Seroquel, 3 mg Ativan and 100 mg of Trazodone. But I still often feel hurt, cry at the drop of a hat and am very sensitive to rejection (or the interpretation there of). It's like all 'bullits' (nasty remarks, ignorance) go straight for the heart... Would there be medication warding this off?? Even if it's only a little...
> >
> > Any clues welcome!
> > Maria
> >
>
>
> I would really suggest going the therapy way -- you might have some PTSD from all of this, but you're on quite a load of very sleepy medications.
>
> I'm curious why the Seroquel is so high if its purely for this -- that doesn't seem necessary unless you have a powerful anxiety disorder with psychosis features or some other such offlabel condition.
>
> Ultimately, by exploring the source of all of this psychologically you may find much more than in a set of pills -- not that I'm saying you might not need something for anxiety because I'm sensing some panic from this perhaps.
>
> Its contrite, but there isn't a pill for every psychological scenario -- unfortunately I know that insurance doesn't pay for what should be the case, therapy sessions.
>
> Just my take
>
> -- Jay
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