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Posted by Michael Bell on July 13, 2008, at 15:08:29
Well, as an update... my psychiatrist, who is awesome, is happy about the fact that the "physical" symptoms of Social Phobia seemed to have been permanently diminished, if not cured. But the feeling of always being watched, analyzed, evaluated, etc., has a paranoid component to the Social Phobia, he says. Therefore he put me on very low dose risperdal. We'll see how that goes.
In other news, I ordered pharmaceutical grade Oxytocin and will do a self-trial over the course of the next couple weeks to see the effects on social phobia and reward. I'll keep everyone posted.
Posted by Marty on July 17, 2008, at 17:26:38
In reply to Oxytocin and risperdal, posted by Michael Bell on July 13, 2008, at 15:08:29
> Well, as an update... my psychiatrist, who is awesome, is happy about the fact that the "physical" symptoms of Social Phobia seemed to have been permanently diminished, if not cured. But the feeling of always being watched, analyzed, evaluated, etc., has a paranoid component to the Social Phobia, he says.
I think it's a bad idea theorically (as you already know) AND pratically (as you ALSO already should know) .. that said your social phobia could be atypical in some ways and you could react diffently from other social phobic who tried APs ... I guess it's what your Pdoc has in mind. But I don't think the probability of benefits is worth the risk of trying Risperdal. Have you ever tried APs in the past ? Risperdal scrapped my *too-good-to-be-true* response to Nardil, bring me back into social phobia in a way I didn't felt even before starting Nardil AND send me, in a couple months, into the deepest depression of my life. YMMV (may and WILL vary, hopefully)
> In other news, I ordered pharmaceutical grade Oxytocin and will do a self-trial over the course of the next couple weeks to see the effects on social phobia and reward. I'll keep everyone posted.
D-Cycloserine and now Oxytocin ? You're my new social phobic hero! Wow.. I wish I had the $ to try Oxytocin.. Snorting or injecting ? Do you think Risperdal could interfer with your trial ?
/\/\arty
Posted by christophrejmc on July 18, 2008, at 3:42:20
In reply to Oxytocin and risperdal, posted by Michael Bell on July 13, 2008, at 15:08:29
Good luck! I've been wanting to try oxytocin, but I'll probably try d-cycloserine first as it seems to be cheaper/easier to obtain. Let us know how it works out!
Posted by Snowie on July 18, 2008, at 16:53:42
In reply to Re: Oxytocin and risperdal » Michael Bell, posted by Marty on July 17, 2008, at 17:26:38
Marty,
Oxytocin is a wonderful hormone. I haven't felt so much peace and harmony since I induced lactation a few years ago, which naturally increases oxytocin, and has greatly diminished my social anxiety. Of course, inducing lactation to help with social anxiety probably isn't recommended for men, and it wasn't the reason I induced lactation, but it sure has been a very pleasant side effect, and I recommend it to any woman suffering from social anxiety. It's also a very nice way for a woman to bond with her significant other. ;-)
Snowie
> > Well, as an update... my psychiatrist, who is awesome, is happy about the fact that the "physical" symptoms of Social Phobia seemed to have been permanently diminished, if not cured. But the feeling of always being watched, analyzed, evaluated, etc., has a paranoid component to the Social Phobia, he says.
>
> I think it's a bad idea theorically (as you already know) AND pratically (as you ALSO already should know) .. that said your social phobia could be atypical in some ways and you could react diffently from other social phobic who tried APs ... I guess it's what your Pdoc has in mind. But I don't think the probability of benefits is worth the risk of trying Risperdal. Have you ever tried APs in the past ? Risperdal scrapped my *too-good-to-be-true* response to Nardil, bring me back into social phobia in a way I didn't felt even before starting Nardil AND send me, in a couple months, into the deepest depression of my life. YMMV (may and WILL vary, hopefully)
>
> > In other news, I ordered pharmaceutical grade Oxytocin and will do a self-trial over the course of the next couple weeks to see the effects on social phobia and reward. I'll keep everyone posted.
>
>
> D-Cycloserine and now Oxytocin ? You're my new social phobic hero! Wow.. I wish I had the $ to try Oxytocin.. Snorting or injecting ? Do you think Risperdal could interfer with your trial ?
>
>
> /\/\arty
>
Posted by Marty on July 18, 2008, at 17:19:26
In reply to Re: Oxytocin and risperdal » Marty, posted by Snowie on July 18, 2008, at 16:53:42
Hi Snowie,
> Oxytocin is a wonderful hormone. I haven't felt so much peace and harmony since I induced lactation a few years ago, which naturally increases oxytocin, and has greatly diminished my social anxiety.
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Wow. Interesting! .. but I thought Prolactin was responsible for the lactation and Oxytocin was responsible for inducing labor. I'll google it someday. So I guess you would be willing to try Oxytocin for your social phobia ? I sure would be.
> Of course, inducing lactation to help with social anxiety probably isn't recommended for men
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If it was it takes to get back my life, well guess what ? I'm ready ! ;) Most meds gives men "man boobs" in the long run anyway... so we may as well render them fully operative !! XD
> , and it wasn't the reason I induced lactation, but it sure has been a very pleasant side effect, and I recommend it to any woman suffering from social anxiety. It's also a very nice way for a woman to bond with her significant other. ;-)
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Couldn't be more truthful since Oxytocins job is in great part about 'bounding' between humans. Especially between mother and child.
Thanks for sharing this!!
/\/\arty
Posted by Marty on July 18, 2008, at 17:23:16
In reply to Re: Oxytocin and risperdal » Snowie, posted by Marty on July 18, 2008, at 17:19:26
> It's also a very nice way for a woman to bond with her significant other. ;-)
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eh, wait a min! .. My primary language being french I'm not sure but is 'significant other' doesn't mean "lover/boyfriend/husband" ? ....
...Oxytocinnnnnnnn craaaaaaaving :)~I guess it's time for my girlfriend to stop taking the pill!
/\/\arty
Posted by Marty on July 18, 2008, at 17:24:41
In reply to Re: Oxytocin and risperdal » Marty, posted by Marty on July 18, 2008, at 17:23:16
Anyone knows how to contact Micheal ? I seem to be unable to babblemail him and I REALLY need to.Thanks..
/\/\arty
Posted by Snowie on July 18, 2008, at 17:51:12
In reply to Re: Oxytocin and risperdal » Marty, posted by Marty on July 18, 2008, at 17:23:16
Marty,
"Significant other" means your snuggling bunny (i.e., husband, wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, lover, nursing partner, etc.).
Snowie
> > It's also a very nice way for a woman to bond with her significant other. ;-)
> ---
> eh, wait a min! .. My primary language being french I'm not sure but is 'significant other' doesn't mean "lover/boyfriend/husband" ? ....
>
>
> ...Oxytocinnnnnnnn craaaaaaaving :)~
>
> I guess it's time for my girlfriend to stop taking the pill!
>
> /\/\arty
Posted by Snowie on July 18, 2008, at 19:05:33
In reply to Re: Oxytocin and risperdal » Snowie, posted by Marty on July 18, 2008, at 17:19:26
Yes, definitely Google it. And I don't need to try it. Since inducing lactation, my body produces it naturally. While it's not for everyone, no medication has done for me what lactation has.
Snowie
> Hi Snowie,
>
> > Oxytocin is a wonderful hormone. I haven't felt so much peace and harmony since I induced lactation a few years ago, which naturally increases oxytocin, and has greatly diminished my social anxiety.
> ---
> Wow. Interesting! .. but I thought Prolactin was responsible for the lactation and Oxytocin was responsible for inducing labor. I'll google it someday. So I guess you would be willing to try Oxytocin for your social phobia ? I sure would be.
>
>
> > Of course, inducing lactation to help with social anxiety probably isn't recommended for men
> ---
> If it was it takes to get back my life, well guess what ? I'm ready ! ;) Most meds gives men "man boobs" in the long run anyway... so we may as well render them fully operative !! XD
>
>
> > , and it wasn't the reason I induced lactation, but it sure has been a very pleasant side effect, and I recommend it to any woman suffering from social anxiety. It's also a very nice way for a woman to bond with her significant other. ;-)
> ---
> Couldn't be more truthful since Oxytocins job is in great part about 'bounding' between humans. Especially between mother and child.
>
>
> Thanks for sharing this!!
> /\/\arty
Posted by maree on July 22, 2008, at 0:27:47
In reply to Re: Oxytocin and risperdal » Marty, posted by Snowie on July 18, 2008, at 19:05:33
I suffered a stroke that robbed me of the ability to love. Do you think that Oxytocin could reignite that ability?
It also robbed me of the ability to get an endorphin rush, any comments on the relationship?
Posted by Marty on July 22, 2008, at 0:38:46
In reply to Re: Oxytocin, posted by maree on July 22, 2008, at 0:27:47
> I suffered a stroke that robbed me of the ability to love. Do you think that Oxytocin could reignite that ability?
> It also robbed me of the ability to get an endorphin rush, any comments on the relationship?
---Hi,
Oxytocin could help to some extent in my opinion, but would it bring all the different emotions that compose what we call 'feelings of love' .. ? Who knows .. maybe.
You may be interested in reading (NOT TAKING!) about the chemical called MDMA (aka Ecstacy, the street drug). It has been theorized that it induce feeling of sociality/romance/love/attachment by being somehow Oxytocinergic. ... note that it's not a treatment option for many reasons (neurotoxic etc)
Good luck,
/\/\arty
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