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Posted by your#1fan on March 29, 2008, at 23:40:30
Im experence fear alot during the day.
1)I feel im being watched and judged by other
2)I cant interact very well with people, my social skills are horrible.
3)Rejection thats the because i have this disorder.It has plaged me so much. I think people are thinking bad about me, it hurts me, then i get angry, and then i learn (it was just the way i percieved it)
I want "normalness" not "loniness"
What its done is made me look like a bad person, becuase the truth, is im in a Adult body with about a 11 year old way of coping with things. This is why i feel i have to have parents. Im suppost to be in control of my life right now, im not.
Fear consumes me, Xanax has helped with fear, and anxiety reactions fine. But i need to know there is a cure for As. Syndrome so i can socialize normally and act normally, when im grown.
Depression hasnt much plaged me much with Prozac counteracting it. Prozac has done wonders.
The severe pain of knowing your autistic and feel stupid, slow, behind, and never knew you had it is overwhelming.
Good night, im just venting.........this is just like my online diariy.
Your#1fan
Posted by Sigismund on March 30, 2008, at 0:31:56
In reply to Aspergerns Syndorome, posted by your#1fan on March 29, 2008, at 23:40:30
As I understand it, there is no cure for Aspergers or autism, nor is there any drug treatment that is specific.
They are not illnesses and I'm hopeful they are not in the DSMIV, but I wouldn't bet on it either.
Posted by Zyprexa on March 30, 2008, at 16:14:21
In reply to Re: Aspergerns Syndorome, posted by Sigismund on March 30, 2008, at 0:31:56
They are both in there. DSMIV-299. Thats what doctor put on mine.
Posted by Sigismund on March 30, 2008, at 17:35:02
In reply to Re: Aspergerns Syndorome » Sigismund, posted by Zyprexa on March 30, 2008, at 16:14:21
There you go.
Posted by Racer on March 30, 2008, at 23:52:28
In reply to Aspergerns Syndorome, posted by your#1fan on March 29, 2008, at 23:40:30
AS is a developmental disorder -- which means it has run its course by adulthood. Most of what you're describing does not fit with my knowledge of AS.
AS is more about not having a theory of mind -- not being able to understand that other people have experiences totally separate from one, that someone else has thoughts in the same way one does. It isn't about paranoia -- paranoia requires a theory of mind.
I'm very happy that you've seen a new doctor, and I hope that this doctor provides a more effective treatment regimen for you. I'm also happy for you if AS helps sooth your distress. I hope that a better understanding of the disorder will help you learn to cope with your experience in a way which is more comfortable for you.
Posted by Dinah on March 31, 2008, at 10:32:59
In reply to Aspergerns Syndorome, posted by your#1fan on March 29, 2008, at 23:40:30
Has your therapist diagnosed you with Asperger's?
I looked into it myself, because it fit with various problems I was having. Plus, I toe walked and rocked.
However, with further developments in therapy it became more obvious that I probably didn't have Asperger's. Some of my aspergerish symptoms had psychological rather than neurological roots.
And my toe walking was caused by a short tendon or something, according to my neurologist, and wasn't neurological.
I do still think I have some neurological deficits that are associated with Asperger's. But my wiring is a bit off anyway, neurologically speaking. That's purely self diagnosis. I've only officially been diagnosed with migraine and idiopathic hypersomnia.
Posted by Phillipa on March 31, 2008, at 12:32:50
In reply to Re: Aspergerns Syndorome » your#1fan, posted by Dinah on March 31, 2008, at 10:32:59
I too looked it up and it's very easy to almost have second year medical student thoughts as you start learning and think all the symptoms are yours. I know didn't word this well. But to me it did look like the movement flapping etc. were huge factors in diagnosing. Phillipa very disjointed post sorry
Posted by Dopamine123 on March 31, 2008, at 21:16:28
In reply to Re: Aspergerns Syndorome, posted by Phillipa on March 31, 2008, at 12:32:50
You might want to try an atypical antipsychotic. Asperger's shares some of the same symptoms as negative schizophrenia so it could potentially improve symptoms like apathy, social withdrawal, emotional blunting etc. Increasing dopamine in the medial prefrontal cortex is important for sociability. Mirtazapine is an antidepressant that has efficacy in negative symptoms, so it might also improve asperger's symptoms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome
>The atypical neuroleptic medications risperidone and olanzapine have been shown to reduce the associated symptoms of AS;[1] risperidone can reduce repetitive and self-injurious behaviors, aggressive outbursts and impulsivity, and improve stereotypical patterns of behavior and social relatedness.
Posted by Sigismund on March 31, 2008, at 21:38:19
In reply to Re: Aspergers Syndrome, posted by Dopamine123 on March 31, 2008, at 21:16:28
I read on Wikipedia that Hans Asperger's paper was not translated into English until 1991 by Uta Frith, which surprised me.
It's interesting to speculate on what having a euthansia/muder program in the background could do for your clinical observations and prognoses. Perhaps his patients were different to Kanners, or maybe not? Vienna in 1944. Oh my goodness.
>Asperger was convinced that many of the children he identified as having autistic symptoms would use their special talents in adulthood. He followed one child, Fritz V., into adulthood. Fritz V. became a professor of astronomy and solved an error in Newtons work he originally noticed as a child. Hans Aspergers positive outlook contrasts strikingly with Leo Kanner's description of autism, of which Asperger's is often considered to be a high-functioning form. In his 1944 paper, written during Nazi rule whose policies included killing mentally handicapped and socially deviant people, Asperger wrote:We are convinced, then, that autistic people have their place in the organism of the social community. They fulfil their role well, perhaps better than anyone else could, and we are talking of people who as children had the greatest difficulties and caused untold worries to their care-givers.[2]
Posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on March 31, 2008, at 23:22:24
In reply to Re: Aspergers Syndrome, posted by Sigismund on March 31, 2008, at 21:38:19
I have about 12 cases of kids (7-14) Dxd with various ASDs at my job. It is true that all of them cannot be considered to have an LD. Tx focuses very highly on therapeutic social programming. A few meds have showed to bring some relief, one in particular is nefazadone. Our medical therapist believes this has something to do with the serotonin pathways and malfunction. But, slow social exposure, with a focus on reducing anxiety, is, in a nutshell, what we are trying to do. (This involves a million other little tasks along the way, of course.)
A number of the clients tend to suffer from lack of social affect. They have difficulty with interpersonal skills, and qualities such as empathy.(Not saying that to be negative, and it doesnt mean they arent caring people. Alls it means is they have difficulty understanding how others feel.) There is a great book that explains much of this, and is being used as a Tx model for ASD clients and even those with a LD, although an LD usually responds better to a cognitive based Tx. Its called Emotional Intelligence, and its follow-ups and workbooks present absolutely excellent models for developmental handicapped clients as well as those with ASDs.
Jay
Posted by Phillipa on April 1, 2008, at 20:07:33
In reply to Re: Aspergers Syndrome/ASD's..import. treatment, posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on March 31, 2008, at 23:22:24
Jay they are using serzone? Interesting. Love Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on April 7, 2008, at 6:41:06
In reply to Aspergerns Syndorome, posted by your#1fan on March 29, 2008, at 23:40:30
welcome to my world :(
youre not alone
i recommend you try seroquel and clozapine
they are the best for these things from my opinion
Posted by tunguska on April 8, 2008, at 1:18:22
In reply to Re: Aspergers Syndrome, posted by Dopamine123 on March 31, 2008, at 21:16:28
NO! Bad idea. Aside from dealing with the attention issues this is not a problem. People not knowing what the heck it is, that is a problem. Giving antipsychotic drugs to an aspie? Aspies are logical people in an illogical world, thats not psychotic its just differently able. The problem is they are "normal" and now we have a diagneosis of "normal" in a world where there really is no such thing as normal and we think we need to find a drug to correct this. Sheesh.IMHO
Posted by tunguska on April 8, 2008, at 1:21:00
In reply to Re: Aspergers Syndrome/ASD's..import. treatment, posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on March 31, 2008, at 23:22:24
So, do you have any info on non aspie siblngs?
Posted by tunguska on April 8, 2008, at 1:23:21
In reply to Re: Aspergerns Syndorome, posted by Jeroen on April 7, 2008, at 6:41:06
> welcome to my world :(
>
> youre not alone
>
> i recommend you try seroquel and clozapine
>
> they are the best for these things from my opinion
And what do they do for you?
Posted by Sigismund on April 8, 2008, at 2:38:08
In reply to Re: Aspergers Syndrome, posted by tunguska on April 8, 2008, at 1:18:22
Agreed.
A thousand times over.
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