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Posted by deniseuk190466 on January 10, 2008, at 15:18:47
I've been off all meds for almost a month and it's killing me.
Now a therapist would say that I am "over catastrophising" thinking in an "all or nothing kind of way". Am I? Now this would be called self doubting.
I'm confused all I know is that being off medicationit really really feels like it is killing me, not in the literal sense of course, I'm pretty sure that I'm not going to die in the next few days but the way I've been feeling, I wish I would.
I hurt all over, my body aches, I feel like I've got constant pressure in my chest, my jaw is constantly tight and feels clenched. I feel like gagging sometimes and I have very low energy.
I'm going to listen to this mindfulness CD again tonight in the hope that it will bring some relief but having said that the whole point of mindfulness is not to want to change anything but just to be in and experience the moment. Ok, therefore, what's my motivation for listening to it?
Thank God that some drugs do help, not enough but they do take the edge off.
Denise
Posted by Maxime on January 10, 2008, at 18:51:55
In reply to This is killing me., posted by deniseuk190466 on January 10, 2008, at 15:18:47
Eek! Why did you go off your meds? It sounds like you are still going through withdrawal. All the aches and pains are symptoms of withdrawal. I hope you tapered off your meds.
Take care.
Maxime
Posted by bleauberry on January 10, 2008, at 21:28:26
In reply to This is killing me., posted by deniseuk190466 on January 10, 2008, at 15:18:47
> I've been off all meds for almost a month and it's killing me.
Withdrawals such as what you are experiencing can last up to 3 months in my own experience. It takes the body, glands, receptors, and genes a long time to adjust to the new environment. By 3 months you should be able to see what your true baseline is.
To get that far I had to a few times take very low doses of 5htp (10mg) or a tincture here and there of passionflower. It mellowed out the all-or-nothing, over-react to everything, suspiciousness, kind of stuff very well.
Posted by Phillipa on January 10, 2008, at 23:17:52
In reply to Re: This is killing me., posted by bleauberry on January 10, 2008, at 21:28:26
Denise did you stop them all at once? If so I agree with withdrawal. Phillipa
Posted by Zyprexa on January 14, 2008, at 18:46:30
In reply to Re: This is killing me., posted by Phillipa on January 10, 2008, at 23:17:52
Ordered by doctor? Own decision? They were not working?
Posted by deniseuk190466 on January 17, 2008, at 7:58:38
In reply to Re: This is killing me. » deniseuk190466, posted by Maxime on January 10, 2008, at 18:51:55
Maxime,
I was talking to this lady in the States about one of the Ketamine trials they are doing and she confirmed that I would have to come off all medication and be med free for at least two weeks prior to doing the trial.
Although, I haven't confirmed whether I would be doing the trial, one of the things that scared me was the thought of having to come off my medication.
I am the sort of person who if I am scared of something then I want to get it over and done with so this was sort of a practice run. As stupid and futile as it may seem.
Hope you are doing better.
Denise
Posted by deniseuk190466 on January 18, 2008, at 4:02:09
In reply to Re: This is killing me., posted by bleauberry on January 10, 2008, at 21:28:26
Dear Bleauberry,
What I was really getting at in my message was the fact that this therapy/Mindfulness that is
being advocated for me isn't really helping a great deal.When I say that I do feel bad, I actually do, I don't think I'm over catastrophising and I'm not really over catastrophising that is just the way I feel.
With regards to much of the symptoms you describe, now I just feel very flat, apathetic, bored and tired no mater what I am doing really and if you
asked me what I'd rather be doing I wouldn't know because it
all feels the same.I was feeling like this when my depression resurfaced back in 2001. I don't think I am still suffering withdrawal affect and feel as though this is my baseline mood.
Thanks for the advice about the passion flower, how does it make you feel and after how long? I will give it a try although I have been trying valarian and it doesn't seem to do anything.
Thanks anyway....Denise
Posted by deniseuk190466 on January 18, 2008, at 4:09:11
In reply to Re: Why did you do it?, posted by Zyprexa on January 14, 2008, at 18:46:30
The Seroxat helps a bit, to a certain extent but not nearly as well as it did years ago.
The Zyprexa helps a lot for the physical symptoms and energy.
I have just never felt as though I've experienced complete remission over the last five years. Was thinking of giving the Ketamine a go and so coming off meds is/was a practice run. At least I know they are still hter.
I also wanted to see if the therapy would help on it's own.
Denise
Posted by Zyprexa on January 22, 2008, at 21:34:16
In reply to to Zyprexa, posted by deniseuk190466 on January 18, 2008, at 4:09:11
Oh.. Thought they were trying to torture you, taking you off all meds for some reason. Glad you are in control!
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