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Posted by eric wagner on October 19, 2007, at 17:29:02
ive been on 6mgs 1 week
9 mgs. 1 week
12 mgs. 3 weeks
no response
any thoughts?
Posted by cumulative on October 19, 2007, at 18:05:03
In reply to EMSAM 5 wks., posted by eric wagner on October 19, 2007, at 17:29:02
A number of the past EMSAM threads indicate that it can take up to 6 weeks at the correct dosage to start getting the full effect of this patch, and this is true for other irreversible MAOIs as well. Probably worth doing a search for more info.
Posted by eric wagner on October 19, 2007, at 20:08:04
In reply to Re: EMSAM 5 wks., posted by cumulative on October 19, 2007, at 18:05:03
thanks
done probably close to 100 hrs research online
all threads on here as well as many other sites
many people have 1st or 2nd day response
6 wks for FULL effect
im at 5 wks w/ no effect
just wondering if there is anyone who also was at 5 wks w/ no effect & if magically 6th week they feel different?
Posted by d0pamine on October 19, 2007, at 21:19:10
In reply to Re: EMSAM 5 wks., posted by eric wagner on October 19, 2007, at 20:08:04
Been there, done that. About 3 weeks at 9mg and nothing. Then I started the 12mg patch and it was a full 5 or 6 MORE weeks before it helped. It was a long time ago, but basically I think I just woke up one morning and all was different. Prior to hitting the 5 or 6 week mark (on 12mg (9 weeks total)) I think the only thing that happened was some EMsomnia around the 3rd week on the 12mg (6 weeks total (3 - 9 and 3 - 12)). You've come this far, I'd sure not stop until the end of 6 weeks on the 12mg patch.
Posted by eric wagner on October 20, 2007, at 6:01:03
In reply to Re: EMSAM 5 wks., posted by d0pamine on October 19, 2007, at 21:19:10
thanks for the hope d0pamine
im just really praying this will work 4 me
these 5 wks have felt more like 5 months
its not like i havent waited 4 meds to not work before - its just ive done so much research on selegeline - & i feel its what my body needs - a powerful antidepressant which works on many neurotransmitters
luckily 4 me - ive had almost 0 side effects
patches stay on - no red marks
sleep is good enough
etc.
i will certainly stay on 12 mgs. a full 6 wks as you did
when you say you woke up 1 morning & all was different, how did you feel?
energy, clear headed, good mood, etc.
thank you soo much
Posted by d0pamine on October 20, 2007, at 7:30:45
In reply to Re: EMSAM 5 wks., posted by eric wagner on October 20, 2007, at 6:01:03
>when you say you woke up 1 morning & all was different, how did you feel?
The persistent negative thoughts that had plagued me as well as the previously ever present "feeling of imminent doom" were gone and to a large extent so was the anhedonic "why bother" amotivational type issues that had given me so much trouble. The anhedonia continued to fade over the next few weeks. If any of these drugs are worth taking at all, EMSAM is certainly one of them. If you're not having trouble with side effects, I'll bet it ends up working well for you also. Keep us posted.
Posted by eric wagner on October 20, 2007, at 7:37:42
In reply to Re: EMSAM 5 wks., posted by d0pamine on October 20, 2007, at 7:30:45
thanks d0pamine
youve given me a REAL boost of hope
i will certainly keep posting
havent posted prior b/c of nonresponse
believe me, i've been wanting to post positive effects since day one, as some did the first day when they felt better
as soon as i get a minor change, i'll post & maybe help some other as of yet nonresponders
Posted by KayeBaby on October 21, 2007, at 16:45:46
In reply to Re: EMSAM 5 wks., posted by eric wagner on October 20, 2007, at 7:37:42
I love Emsam! Been on it since April.
The effects are cumalative so hang on. I, also have no sleep trouble from EMSAM-in fact, I put my new patch on right before bed so i'm ready to go in the morning.
Give this one a good long trial becuase if it works for you it is a great antidepressant The lack of side effects is just amazing.
Kaye
Posted by eric wagner on October 21, 2007, at 16:47:58
In reply to Re: EMSAM 5 wks. » eric wagner, posted by KayeBaby on October 21, 2007, at 16:45:46
thanks kaye - u r the best
how long did it take 4 it 2 work 4 u?
did it all the sudden change, or was it slow
thanks again
Posted by KayeBaby on October 22, 2007, at 1:03:55
In reply to Re: EMSAM 5 wks., posted by eric wagner on October 21, 2007, at 16:47:58
Well, When I started it I had just come off stimulants and had quit smoking. I didn't feel like offing myself so I thought it was helping. I wasn't great but something made me feel hopeful.
It did take 6 weeks to really get going and then it seemed to get progressively better. After maybe 5 months on the 6mg patch I felt like I was losing ground so I went up to 9mg. Again, maybe it was just hope but I seemed to feel better pretty fast. I have just passed the 2 month mark at 9mg and for the last couple of weeks I have been doing very well.
All in all-I would say it takes 6wks to start seeing what EMSAM can really do but from that point it gets better and better.
Are you taking any supplements? They really help.
if not, take a look at the alternative board and start a regime. At the very least it will give you some distraction until EMSAM kicks in.You might ask your dr. about samples or a script of Deplin. It is a form of folate that often increases peoples response to antidepressant meds.
Hang in there.
Kaye
Posted by eric wagner on October 22, 2007, at 4:51:27
In reply to Re: EMSAM 5 wks., posted by KayeBaby on October 22, 2007, at 1:03:55
kaye thanks for your posts
i really appreciate it
as fas as supplements i take 1000 mg DLPA & 3oo mgs B4 in the morn. & 1000 mg DLPA in the aft.
i dont believe its doing anything though
is there something else you could recommend I research?
hopefully that 6 wk. standard wait time works for me also & ill feel better soon
i go back to dr. in 2 wks & will mention deplin
thanks, take care & be well
Posted by d0pamine on October 22, 2007, at 17:36:54
In reply to Re: EMSAM 5 wks., posted by eric wagner on October 22, 2007, at 4:51:27
This seems to be limited to me, but I'll note that I was already getting a good response from EMSAM when I started DLPA at one point and it seemed that most if not all of the benefit I had gotten from the patch went away. I've heard many others rave about the combo, so I may be the only one strange enough to have had this happen. When I stopped the DLPA all became normal again within a couple of days.
Posted by eric wagner on October 22, 2007, at 17:40:13
In reply to Re: EMSAM 5 wks., posted by d0pamine on October 22, 2007, at 17:36:54
thanks d0pamine
im going to not take it tomorrow
it hasnt done anything anyway
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