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Posted by WNxPats on October 21, 2007, at 5:11:34
Hello, im 15 years old, im a guy, and i live in New Hampshire in the United States. I have never done drugs or drank alchohol in my life. Over the past 3 months i have woken up in the night two times. The first time i woke up at 3 AM and today i just woke up at 5 AM. Each time i felt like a fairly large bug or mouse was crawling on me, however it feels almost weightless. I can just feel something weightless moving on me, but it definately felt like something large. The first time i thought it was a cockroach, but i havent seen a single cockroach in my room or even my entire house ever. So i googled bugs crawling on me and came across formication. I think its what i have but it doesnt make sense. Its says drugs and menapose can cause this, or some mental problems. as i said above i dont do drugs, i obviously cant have menapose. I do have social anxiety and i started taking medicine for it just 2 days ago, but that wouldnt explain how it happened 2 months ago. So can anyone tell me whats going on? Is there really a bug crawling on me? Can formication be as infrequent as 2 months seperation between incidents? Why does it always happen in the morning and wake me up? Thanks a lot. Also up here in New Hampshire it is fairly cold year round, and it is about 50 degrees on average right now. It is very rare to find large bugs or cockroaches here.
Posted by eric wagner on October 21, 2007, at 5:54:37
In reply to Formication Please Help, posted by WNxPats on October 21, 2007, at 5:11:34
ghosts tend to manifest themselves late night/early morning
sounds like a case of the paranormal
possibly an inhuman haunting - a demon
demons are the most dangerous form of supernatural beings that can possess, rape and kill. They can tear apart families, ruin lives, and never even leave a trace of their existance for the outside world
maybe try to purchase an EMF Detector to see if you get a reading prior, during & post haunt
or possibly an IR thermometers to check temp. of area where this occurs
or even set up an EVP recorder in your closet to check if there are voices not recognized by the human ear
Posted by WNxPats on October 21, 2007, at 6:32:54
In reply to Re: Formication Please Help, posted by eric wagner on October 21, 2007, at 5:54:37
wow.... are you serious? sorry i dont believe in that kind of stuff.
Posted by kaleidoscope on October 21, 2007, at 7:12:00
In reply to Formication Please Help, posted by WNxPats on October 21, 2007, at 5:11:34
Hi
Some people have hallucinations when they are just in the process of waking up ie. while they are in the transition between sleep and waking. Such experiences are common, they are called hypnagogic hallucinations. The symptoms disappear when you have fully woken up.
Here is some information.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnogogic
Your symptoms are brief and infrequent - and therefore not 'formication'.
This is nothing to do with demons trust me!
Although unpleasant, I do not think your symptoms are anything to worry about. Mention it to your doctor at your next visit.
Ed
Posted by eric wagner on October 21, 2007, at 7:18:51
In reply to Hypnagogic hallucinations » WNxPats, posted by kaleidoscope on October 21, 2007, at 7:12:00
its a possibility is it Hypnagogic hallucinations
but i doubt it
more likely to be an inhuman haunting as to the recent onset
if youve ever seen Haunted on Discovery Channel, many time there are instances during hauntings/possessions where 1 wakes up after having felt large insects on them
it only gets worse from there
you may even want to research The Atlantic Paranormal Society TAPS (located in your neck of the woods) on the internet
possibly shoot them an email & tell them EW on the Jersey Shore feels you may have some activity
Posted by Squiggles on October 21, 2007, at 7:33:47
In reply to Re: Hypnagogic hallucinations, posted by eric wagner on October 21, 2007, at 7:18:51
If i received a supernatural explanation
like that of Eric Wagner's, i would consider
it abuse.Squiggles
Posted by WNxPats on October 21, 2007, at 7:36:40
In reply to Re: Formication Please Help, posted by WNxPats on October 21, 2007, at 6:32:54
thanks for the information kaleidoscope... as for the rest of you its pretty sad that someone comse here looking for an answer and gets a bunch of haunting crap... but w/e.
Posted by kaleidoscope on October 21, 2007, at 7:43:37
In reply to Re: Hypnagogic hallucinations, posted by eric wagner on October 21, 2007, at 7:18:51
Hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations are very common. People can hear things, see things and feel things - and are often unable to move during the experience. Some people suffering these hallucinations have narcolepsy, but many do not.
From patient.co.uk.......
A telephone interview of nearly 5,000 people aged 15 to 100 in the UK showed that 37% of the sample reported experiencing hypnagogic (on falling asleep) hallucinations and 12.5% reported hypnopompic (on waking up) hallucinations. Both types of hallucinations were significantly more common among subjects with symptoms of insomnia, excessive daytime sleepiness or mental disorders. Hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations were much more common than expected, with a prevalence that far exceeds that which can be explained by the association with narcolepsy. Hypnopompic hallucinations may be a better indicator of narcolepsy than hypnagogic hallucinations in subjects reporting excessive daytime sleepiness.
Posted by kaleidoscope on October 21, 2007, at 7:49:12
In reply to Re: Formication Please Help, posted by WNxPats on October 21, 2007, at 7:36:40
Hi WNX,
You're welcome. If you do some research on google you'll find that other people have had similar experiences with hypnagogic/hypnopompic hallucinations eg. insects, bugs.
Some medications may suppress these hallucinations eg. certain antidepressants. Symptoms may return when the medication is stopped, especially during the first few weeks after withdrawal.
Ed
Posted by eric wagner on October 21, 2007, at 7:52:23
In reply to Re: do hospitals ever help? » eric wagner, posted by Squiggles on October 21, 2007, at 7:33:47
just giving my professional demonologist opinion
squiggles where does your opinion come from
Posted by Squiggles on October 21, 2007, at 7:58:30
In reply to Re: Hypnagogic/hypnopompic hallucinations, posted by kaleidoscope on October 21, 2007, at 7:43:37
On rare occasions I have had what is a multi-culturally
occurring inability to move as if someone is resting on my chest while i am asleep. There are even paintings of this phenomenon, which is not so rare. It is called "the Old Hag syndrome", after a fairy-tale like explanation that an Old Hag is sitting on your chest.It may be related to sleep apnea. But there are
many sleep, semi-sleep, narcoleptic, changes in the body and consciousness.Folk explanations are likely to turn to the supernatural.
Posted by kaleidoscope on October 21, 2007, at 8:04:39
In reply to Re: Hypnagogic/hypnopompic hallucinations » kaleidoscope, posted by Squiggles on October 21, 2007, at 7:58:30
Hi Squiggles,
'Sleep paralysis' as it is commonly known is really quite common. I've experienced it myself when coming off an antidepressant. Sleep paralysis and hypnic hallucinations often occur together, making the hallucinations much more frightening.
Sleep paralysis and hypnic hallucinations both seem to be caused by the continuation of REM sleep phenomena into the waking state.
Ed
Posted by eric wagner on October 21, 2007, at 8:08:19
In reply to Re: Hypnagogic/hypnopompic hallucinations » Squiggles, posted by kaleidoscope on October 21, 2007, at 8:04:39
these are all very valid possibilities
just trying to help
Posted by Squiggles on October 21, 2007, at 8:12:49
In reply to Re: Hypnagogic/hypnopompic hallucinations » Squiggles, posted by kaleidoscope on October 21, 2007, at 8:04:39
> Hi Squiggles,
>
> 'Sleep paralysis' as it is commonly known is really quite common. I've experienced it myself when coming off an antidepressant. Sleep paralysis and hypnic hallucinations often occur together, making the hallucinations much more frightening.
>Yup... sleep is a bit like madness isn't it;
an external or internal stimulus while you are near waking state can take on frightening or hallucinatory forms. Sleep studies may reveal just what the threshold is for this occurrence. The typical REM phase is short (20 min. i think) and then deep sleep continues to erase the memory of the dream. But not so, with near-waking REM or dream states.Yeah, sleep paralysis is frightening-- you feel like you can't move for some unknown reason. But eventually, you do.
Posted by Phillipa on October 21, 2007, at 13:00:23
In reply to Re: Hypnagogic/hypnopompic hallucinations » kaleidoscope, posted by Squiggles on October 21, 2007, at 8:12:49
Oh I've had it too very frightening but it does leave and you wake up fully. Phillipa
Posted by tecknohed on October 23, 2007, at 5:38:25
In reply to Re: Hypnagogic/hypnopompic hallucinations, posted by eric wagner on October 21, 2007, at 8:08:19
> these are all very valid possibilities
> just trying to helpAre you kidding me?!
How can you call trying to scare a 15 year old boy senseless help??!!!
Your 'real' name isn't Derek Acorah by any chance, is it?!
Demonic my A**!!!
Posted by tecknohed on October 23, 2007, at 6:39:03
In reply to Re: Hypnagogic/hypnopompic hallucinations » eric wagner, posted by tecknohed on October 23, 2007, at 5:38:25
> > these are all very valid possibilities
> > just trying to help
>
> Are you kidding me?!
>
> How can you call trying to scare a 15 year old boy senseless help??!!!
>
> Your 'real' name isn't Derek Acorah by any chance, is it?!
>
> Demonic my A**!!!Sorry, that was a bit out of order. I appologise.
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 23, 2007, at 23:23:38
In reply to Re: Formication Please Help, posted by WNxPats on October 21, 2007, at 7:36:40
> If i received a supernatural explanation
> like that of Eric Wagner's, i would consider
> it abuse.
>
> Squiggles> its pretty sad that someone comse here looking for an answer and gets a bunch of haunting crap...
>
> WNxPatsPlease don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
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Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 23, 2007, at 23:23:41
In reply to Re: do hospitals ever help?, posted by eric wagner on October 21, 2007, at 7:52:23
> my professional demonologist opinion
Hi, please contact me, I'd like to confirm that you're a doctor. Thanks,
Bob
Posted by eric wagner on October 24, 2007, at 19:52:10
In reply to Re: please contact me » eric wagner, posted by Dr. Bob on October 23, 2007, at 23:23:41
sent babbemail dr bob
Posted by eric wagner on October 24, 2007, at 19:53:02
In reply to Re: please contact me » eric wagner, posted by Dr. Bob on October 23, 2007, at 23:23:41
sent babbemail dr bob
never, ever claimed to be a doctor
Posted by Phillipa on October 24, 2007, at 21:37:43
In reply to Re: please contact me, posted by eric wagner on October 24, 2007, at 19:53:02
Click the notify administration button below the thread where you would go to post and send a message to admin specifically Dr. Bob
Posted by Deputy Racer on October 24, 2007, at 21:49:41
In reply to Re: please contact me » eric wagner, posted by Phillipa on October 24, 2007, at 21:37:43
Posted by Phillipa on October 24, 2007, at 21:54:11
In reply to Plain email is just fine (nm) » Phillipa, posted by Deputy Racer on October 24, 2007, at 21:49:41
Well you know so that should speed things along. Great that you saw it as I think my directions were also wrong. Phillipa
Posted by Jamal Spelling on October 25, 2007, at 3:24:47
In reply to Re: please contact me, posted by eric wagner on October 24, 2007, at 19:53:02
> sent babbemail dr bob
> never, ever claimed to be a doctorI briefly mistook the word "demonologist" (someone who studies demons) for "dermatologist". Maybe that's the root of the misunderstanding.
Jamal
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