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Posted by KayeBaby on July 17, 2007, at 0:14:40
I am having trouble finding a definitive answer.
Seems as thoough deprenyl has been successfully combined with both Tyrosine and 5 HTP.
I have taken these supplements pretty often with good results in the past. I feel like something is missing in my regime and keep thinking about these two.
Does anyone have any experience or advice. I have been on the 6mg EMSAM patch for about 13 weeks.
Thanks!
Kaye
Posted by Mistermindmasta on July 17, 2007, at 23:55:02
In reply to EMSAM combined w/ Tyrosine or 5 HTP safe?, posted by KayeBaby on July 17, 2007, at 0:14:40
I'm taking oral deprenyl, 10 mg / day. I take 500 mg dlpa and 1,000 mg l-tryptophan per day. So far, no death. I'm still alive. I feel fine, but as far as what my blood pressure REALLY IS, I couldn't tell you. I might be doing unsafe things.
However, studies support dlpa and 5-htp with deprenyl without side effects as i recall, so i'm definitely assuming it's safe for now. However, i'd be more hesitant to combine 5-htp with ensame at a larger dosage, one that more potently inhibits mao-a.
> I am having trouble finding a definitive answer.
>
> Seems as thoough deprenyl has been successfully combined with both Tyrosine and 5 HTP.
>
> I have taken these supplements pretty often with good results in the past. I feel like something is missing in my regime and keep thinking about these two.
>
> Does anyone have any experience or advice. I have been on the 6mg EMSAM patch for about 13 weeks.
>
> Thanks!
> Kaye
Posted by KayeBaby on July 18, 2007, at 2:18:28
In reply to Re: EMSAM combined w/ Tyrosine or 5 HTP safe?, posted by Mistermindmasta on July 17, 2007, at 23:55:02
Well,
I am going to cautiously try it and watch my BP.Kepp an eye out for yourself and let me know how it is working.
Thanks!
Kaye
Posted by saturn on July 18, 2007, at 12:11:27
In reply to EMSAM combined w/ Tyrosine or 5 HTP safe?, posted by KayeBaby on July 17, 2007, at 0:14:40
> Does anyone have any experience or advice. I have been on the 6mg EMSAM patch for about 13 weeks.
>
> Thanks!
> KayeI would not risk it without explicit approval from your doc. Good luck. Peace...Saturn.
Posted by dewdropinn on July 19, 2007, at 13:00:43
In reply to Re: EMSAM combined w/ Tyrosine or 5 HTP safe? » Mistermindmasta, posted by KayeBaby on July 18, 2007, at 2:18:28
There's actually a big difference in risk factors associated with taking the low dose pill form of selegiline vs. the patch. With the pill, so long as your remain below 10mg, the drug is purely a MAO-B inhibitor -- it only impacts the breakdown of dopamine and norepinephrine. So, if you are taking the pill at doses under 10mg, you can gingerly venture into the world of amino acids without fearing for your life.
With the patch, even though the dose amount appears similarly small (6mg), you are actually receiving an exponentially higher amount of the drug -- at at these doses, selegiline becomes a true full blow MAOI -- it impacts all 3 neurotransmitters. There are very real risks involved with taking 5-htp with the patch -- any substance that significantly increases serotonin levels has the potential to trigger serotonin syndrome. I would definitely avoid 5-htp if your on EMSAM. Tyrosine or DLPA, on the other hand, will be less risky -- they only impact dopamine and norepinephrine, so there's no potential for triggering serotonin syndrome -- there is some potential of triggering a hypertensive reaction, so it's not exactly safe, but it definitely not as dangerous as the 5-htp EMSAM combo.
If you aren't getting an adequate antidepressant response from the 6mg patch, you may want to try raising the dose -- there's a big difference between the 6 and 9mg patchs, so this may be something to consider.
Best of Luck!
> Well,
> I am going to cautiously try it and watch my BP.
>
> Kepp an eye out for yourself and let me know how it is working.
>
> Thanks!
> Kaye
Posted by KayeBaby on July 20, 2007, at 13:55:26
In reply to Re: EMSAM combined w/ Tyrosine or 5 HTP safe?, posted by dewdropinn on July 19, 2007, at 13:00:43
Thanks!
This is food for thought all the way around.
I will avoid the 5HTP and am considering going up on the EMSAM as I seem to be backsliding now.Kaye
Posted by KarenRB53 on August 18, 2008, at 20:11:23
In reply to Re: EMSAM combined w/ Tyrosine or 5 HTP safe? » dewdropinn, posted by KayeBaby on July 20, 2007, at 13:55:26
> Thanks!
> This is food for thought all the way around.
> I will avoid the 5HTP and am considering going up on the EMSAM as I seem to be backsliding now.
>
> KayeHi:
Are you still on the EMSAM patch and if so is it working well for you and if not, do you mind my asking why you quit? I'm debating whether to try it.Karen
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