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Posted by paulbwell on May 22, 2007, at 3:27:46
My Doc has been treating me with Imipramine to help with my Ritalin overuse which he became concerned with. It seems to be helping and i feel a decreased need for high doses of Ritalin.
Whats your experience with Imipramine been?
Cheers
Posted by linkadge on May 23, 2007, at 18:16:09
In reply to Imipramine, to counter Ritalin overuse, posted by paulbwell on May 22, 2007, at 3:27:46
I have never taken imipramine, but I took a similar drug clomipramine. I was also using ritalin at the time.
Linkadge
Posted by Maxime on May 25, 2007, at 21:45:04
In reply to Imipramine, to counter Ritalin overuse, posted by paulbwell on May 22, 2007, at 3:27:46
> My Doc has been treating me with Imipramine to help with my Ritalin overuse which he became concerned with. It seems to be helping and i feel a decreased need for high doses of Ritalin.
>
> Whats your experience with Imipramine been?
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> CheersI just started a very low dose (25 mg). It makes me sleepy and I can't poop! Lovely.
Glad you feel it's helping you. What dosage are you on?
Maxime
Posted by Paulbwell on May 25, 2007, at 23:38:44
In reply to Re: Imipramine, to counter Ritalin overuse, posted by Maxime on May 25, 2007, at 21:45:04
> > My Doc has been treating me with Imipramine to help with my Ritalin overuse which he became concerned with. It seems to be helping and i feel a decreased need for high doses of Ritalin.
> >
> > Whats your experience with Imipramine been?
> >
> > Cheers
>
> I just started a very low dose (25 mg). It makes me sleepy and I can't poop! Lovely.
>
> Glad you feel it's helping you. What dosage are you on?
>
> MaximeI was using/abusing Ritalin sometimes over 200mgs daily-not taking it orally, or injecting (hate needles). Ritalin/Methylphenidate can be very reinforcing (Sweden banned it in 1968) and i was/knew i was seeking relief i guess, self medicating because i found relief from depression i was undoubtly dealing with, needless to say i would run out early and plunge into neverland.
The Imipramine are 25mg tabs and i was titrated up to 150mgs daily. The dry mouth is the major problem-to the annoying point where i couldn't talk for more than a few sentences until i had to drink water to be able to, also orthostatic hypotension (low BP) was a problem-i fell to the floor, passed out at one point. A Psych said one could go up to 300mgs- not me.
Cheers
Posted by Maxime on May 27, 2007, at 20:28:23
In reply to Re: Imipramine, to counter Ritalin overuse » Maxime, posted by Paulbwell on May 25, 2007, at 23:38:44
150 mg. Other than the dry mouth do have any other side-effects? It's not stimulating for me, in fact it makes me drowsy.
I know you are going to beat this Paul. :)
Maxime
> I was using/abusing Ritalin sometimes over 200mgs daily-not taking it orally, or injecting (hate needles). Ritalin/Methylphenidate can be very reinforcing (Sweden banned it in 1968) and i was/knew i was seeking relief i guess, self medicating because i found relief from depression i was undoubtly dealing with, needless to say i would run out early and plunge into neverland.
>
> The Imipramine are 25mg tabs and i was titrated up to 150mgs daily. The dry mouth is the major problem-to the annoying point where i couldn't talk for more than a few sentences until i had to drink water to be able to, also orthostatic hypotension (low BP) was a problem-i fell to the floor, passed out at one point. A Psych said one could go up to 300mgs- not me.
>
> Cheers
Posted by alohashirt on May 30, 2007, at 20:53:39
In reply to Re: Imipramine, to counter Ritalin overuse » Paulbwell, posted by Maxime on May 27, 2007, at 20:28:23
John Ratey describes using low doses of ipramine or desipramine for ADHD. When you take impramine how does it affect your Ritalin use? Do you find that you need less Ritalin to have the same therapeutic effect?> 150 mg. Other than the dry mouth do have any other side-effects? It's not stimulating for me, in fact it makes me drowsy.
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> I know you are going to beat this Paul. :)
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> Maxime
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> > I was using/abusing Ritalin sometimes over 200mgs daily-not taking it orally, or injecting (hate needles). Ritalin/Methylphenidate can be very reinforcing (Sweden banned it in 1968) and i was/knew i was seeking relief i guess, self medicating because i found relief from depression i was undoubtly dealing with, needless to say i would run out early and plunge into neverland.
> >
> > The Imipramine are 25mg tabs and i was titrated up to 150mgs daily. The dry mouth is the major problem-to the annoying point where i couldn't talk for more than a few sentences until i had to drink water to be able to, also orthostatic hypotension (low BP) was a problem-i fell to the floor, passed out at one point. A Psych said one could go up to 300mgs- not me.
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> > Cheers
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Posted by Paulbwell on May 31, 2007, at 3:41:28
In reply to Re: Imipramine, to counter Ritalin overuse, posted by alohashirt on May 30, 2007, at 20:53:39
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> John Ratey describes using low doses of ipramine or desipramine for ADHD. When you take impramine how does it affect your Ritalin use? Do you find that you need less Ritalin to have the same therapeutic effect?Ritalin noticably (unfortunately, pleasantly) stimulants my brains frontal lobes (yes-i feel it).Imipramine blunts some of these effects, and stimulants a more mid section of my brain. When i saw my latest PC Doc for the first time he started me on a second-line ADD?HD treatment-Imipramine.
I have a "top Psychiatrist" to thank for introducing me to addiction at the age of 31, no prior substance issues prior. I was having troubles which he had previously given me .25mg Xanax 2-3x daily for, (I'm now scripted 3mgs daily). Several years later he brought up the idea of having a "hyperactive-type disorder" i NEVER thought of this and believed Ritalin was for kids. Well with his three Medical degrees hanging on the wall, i was ready to try anything that may help.He showed me a medical authority form which had the licensing application for two treatments:
-Methylphenidate Hcl
-Dextroamphetamine SulI was quite frankly embaressed to be recommended a kiddys pill-even thou he stated most of the~100 clients he had seen prefered it (as it turned out so did i)I steared toward the Dex, to which he ashed me if i had ever taken an Amphetamine-NO.
So i read of folk crushing and snorting the pills-WOW, it worked a treat, many a long night were spent on the 'puter in glee while doing so. last time i saw him i told him of trying some 5mg Dexamphetamine which put me into a DEEP sleep for 2 hours-upon wakening it felt like 8 hours solid sleep (true) it was marvelous i told him,(IT DAMN WELL WAS) so he wiped out his pad and scripted 20mgs Dex daily.
Continued use over the weeks started to make me feel like i was going mad, so i didn't renew.
My PC Doc was so freaked he raised my Methylphenidate dose, and had a script waiting for the first time in a few years.
Cheers
Posted by alohashirt on May 31, 2007, at 22:26:36
In reply to Re: Imipramine, to counter Ritalin overuse » alohashirt, posted by Paulbwell on May 31, 2007, at 3:41:28
Did you do a multiple choice ADHD test simiilar to that at http://www.med.nyu.edu/psych/assets/adhdscreener.pdf
?( I chose very often for all six questions )
Posted by Paulbwell on May 31, 2007, at 23:13:30
In reply to Re: Imipramine, to counter Ritalin overuse, posted by alohashirt on May 31, 2007, at 22:26:36
> Did you do a multiple choice ADHD test simiilar to that at http://www.med.nyu.edu/psych/assets/adhdscreener.pdf
> ?
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> ( I chose very often for all six questions )
no formal tests were done, but he did ask me for my early school reports, and i broke down in his office-emotional lability i guess.Imipramine certainly causes a dry mouth-a change from the dribling from other meds.
The first times i took 5-10mgs Dexamphetamine were wonderfull thou, MY HEAD SHUT UP and the restfull sleep-HEAVEN.
I'm sure my Pc Doc thought i was mad, and probably freaked when i was given Amphetamines-i'm sure he wouldn't have felt comfortable continuing THAT treatment.
Apparently Ritalin was available in parenteral elixer for IV use in medicine in the 1960s to bring around post-op patients, but had to be discontinued like Methedrine ampoules were, due to misuse.
Cheers
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