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Posted by trent on April 24, 2007, at 21:01:05
I've been trying to find a doctor in my area to consult with to evaluate alternatives to my present med., Wellbutrin XL. Specifically, Adderall XR. I've tried a few days taking it recently and was impressed with the results. Has anyone else w/ this disorder,(that has carried it into adulthood),taken adderall and with what results?
Posted by Racer on April 25, 2007, at 12:10:50
In reply to aadhd/medications, posted by trent on April 24, 2007, at 21:01:05
Your mileage will vary -- particularly since I seem to be pretty bizarre in some of my reactions to medications...
Adderall increased my depression -- a lot. I stayed on it for a while, because my T thought stimulants were helping me, but as soon as my pdoc saw me, she stopped it and switched me to Dexedrine. Now I take Ritalin. My own experience was that Dexedrine is nice, but Ritalin works better for me.
Again, though, that's just my experience. And I'm not even sure Ritalin is even doing anything anymore -- but I still like taking it. Even if it's now just placebo effect for me, and even though I think that's absurd of me. At first, it was like a miracle -- suddenly, monkey brain was gone! Just -- gone. Now, though, I have monkey brain again, but maybe not quite as bad.
Hope that helps, and good luck with it. For what it's worth, Strattera helped my depression when I was on it.
Posted by jealibeanz on April 25, 2007, at 15:50:14
In reply to Re: aadhd/medications, posted by Racer on April 25, 2007, at 12:10:50
I also had depression on Adderall, very badly.
I now take Ritalin LA and it does not depress me. It may lift my mood slightly. I don't know about concentration. I don't think it helps and I know it works only for a few hours. It helps me ADHD I suppose in the fact that I'm more awake, but not properly focused.
It really doesn't feel like the drug for me. At least I'm not reacting terribly. But it doesn't scream "success" for me... or even moderate "improvement". It's neither here nor there.
The reason why I still take it is because Concerta didn't work well, it was about the same... but shorter, and actually I'd say "smoother", oddly enough, since it's the same active ingredient. I'm afraid my doctor would just pull me off stimulants if I told him again that I didn't think Ritalin LA was helping much or that it didn't feel quite right... like I expect a mirable pill, because I don't.
Posted by jealibeanz on April 25, 2007, at 15:53:27
In reply to aadhd/medications, posted by trent on April 24, 2007, at 21:01:05
> I've been trying to find a doctor in my area to consult with to evaluate alternatives to my present med., Wellbutrin XL. Specifically, Adderall XR. I've tried a few days taking it recently and was impressed with the results. Has anyone else w/ this disorder,(that has carried it into adulthood),taken adderall and with what results?
I'm sorry, I'm slightly confused with your message. Are you currently taking Adderall or Wellbutrin?Has someone prescribed you Adderall recently or did you try someone else's. I don't mean to accuse you or point fingers, I'm just wondering what treatment you're receiving at the moment.
Where you treated for ADHD as a child?
Posted by crenshaw387 on April 27, 2007, at 23:51:31
In reply to aadhd/medications, posted by trent on April 24, 2007, at 21:01:05
i never took any meds for ADD till this year.
im now 27.my mom went ballistic with the schools whenever they suggested i see a psychiatric professional for ADD screenings and refused to take me....
she told me that ADD was a form of "retardation" and the meds are just "tranquilizers" to control kids with brain damage.....
if only i had been able to have the clarity in my mind that dexedrine gives me now, back when i was in school....
i also take wellbutrin and started that beofre the dexedrine but i never noticed much help from it as far as the ADD goes. it did help with depression however quite well, which is what i take it for.
Posted by jealibeanz on April 28, 2007, at 6:16:45
In reply to Re: aadhd/medications, posted by crenshaw387 on April 27, 2007, at 23:51:31
> i never took any meds for ADD till this year.
> im now 27.
>
> my mom went ballistic with the schools whenever they suggested i see a psychiatric professional for ADD screenings and refused to take me....
>
> she told me that ADD was a form of "retardation" and the meds are just "tranquilizers" to control kids with brain damage.....
>
> if only i had been able to have the clarity in my mind that dexedrine gives me now, back when i was in school....
>
> i also take wellbutrin and started that beofre the dexedrine but i never noticed much help from it as far as the ADD goes. it did help with depression however quite well, which is what i take it for.
Is dexedrine the only medication you've tried for ADHD? Or did you have to go through a bunch of trials to find one that works?I think I try to convince myself that Ritalin LA helps my ADHD. In reality, no, it doesn't. I know not everyone responds well to medications. Maybe I'm one of them. I don't know.
Haha, I'm just suprised when it's suggested that Wellbutrin is good for adult ADHD. I actually learned that in psychiatry class and then was later suggested it by a professor. I guess it helps some people, probably as much as Straterra.
All the lastest studies I've read admit that stimulants are the most effective treatment for children and adults, no matter then subtype.
My PA put me on Straterra because he said that they've found that adult ADHD doesn't respond well to stimulants because the hyperactivity usuallly subsides. I don't know if he just did that because he counldn't prescribe a CII drug, he really believed it, or he thought that my concentration problems were mainly related to anxiety... most likely a combo of them all.
Hmmm... so I don't know what I'd like to do with my meds right now. Maybe tell my doc they don't work well. Or maybe say nothing so he doesn't take them all away.
Posted by trent on April 30, 2007, at 22:18:03
In reply to Re: aadhd/medications » crenshaw387, posted by jealibeanz on April 28, 2007, at 6:16:45
> > i never took any meds for ADD till this year.
> > im now 27.
> >
> > my mom went ballistic with the schools whenever they suggested i see a psychiatric professional for ADD screenings and refused to take me....
> >
> > she told me that ADD was a form of "retardation" and the meds are just "tranquilizers" to control kids with brain damage.....
> >
> > if only i had been able to have the clarity in my mind that dexedrine gives me now, back when i was in school....
> >
> > i also take wellbutrin and started that beofre the dexedrine but i never noticed much help from it as far as the ADD goes. it did help with depression however quite well, which is what i take it for.
>
>
> Is dexedrine the only medication you've tried for ADHD? Or did you have to go through a bunch of trials to find one that works?
>
> I think I try to convince myself that Ritalin LA helps my ADHD. In reality, no, it doesn't. I know not everyone responds well to medications. Maybe I'm one of them. I don't know.
>
> Haha, I'm just suprised when it's suggested that Wellbutrin is good for adult ADHD. I actually learned that in psychiatry class and then was later suggested it by a professor. I guess it helps some people, probably as much as Straterra.
>
> All the lastest studies I've read admit that stimulants are the most effective treatment for children and adults, no matter then subtype.
>
> My PA put me on Straterra because he said that they've found that adult ADHD doesn't respond well to stimulants because the hyperactivity usuallly subsides. I don't know if he just did that because he counldn't prescribe a CII drug, he really believed it, or he thought that my concentration problems were mainly related to anxiety... most likely a combo of them all.
>
> Hmmm... so I don't know what I'd like to do with my meds right now. Maybe tell my doc they don't work well. Or maybe say nothing so he doesn't take them all away.In response to Quest. about my current med..
I'm taking Wellbutrin XL. No,I don't suffer from depression, I never have,wether from a sideffect or as a general condition. And yes I took a few doses of Adderall that was a leftover of an old prescription(for a teen that I know with severe Adhd, who is now on another med. altogether). I have been on Strattera,Ritalin,Wellbutrin(currently) and none of them worked near as well as the Adderall.
Posted by trent on April 30, 2007, at 22:19:59
In reply to Re: aadhd/medications » crenshaw387, posted by jealibeanz on April 28, 2007, at 6:16:45
> > i never took any meds for ADD till this year.
> > im now 27.
> >
> > my mom went ballistic with the schools whenever they suggested i see a psychiatric professional for ADD screenings and refused to take me....
> >
> > she told me that ADD was a form of "retardation" and the meds are just "tranquilizers" to control kids with brain damage.....
> >
> > if only i had been able to have the clarity in my mind that dexedrine gives me now, back when i was in school....
> >
> > i also take wellbutrin and started that beofre the dexedrine but i never noticed much help from it as far as the ADD goes. it did help with depression however quite well, which is what i take it for.
>
>
> Is dexedrine the only medication you've tried for ADHD? Or did you have to go through a bunch of trials to find one that works?
>
> I think I try to convince myself that Ritalin LA helps my ADHD. In reality, no, it doesn't. I know not everyone responds well to medications. Maybe I'm one of them. I don't know.
>
> Haha, I'm just suprised when it's suggested that Wellbutrin is good for adult ADHD. I actually learned that in psychiatry class and then was later suggested it by a professor. I guess it helps some people, probably as much as Straterra.
>
> All the lastest studies I've read admit that stimulants are the most effective treatment for children and adults, no matter then subtype.
>
> My PA put me on Straterra because he said that they've found that adult ADHD doesn't respond well to stimulants because the hyperactivity usuallly subsides. I don't know if he just did that because he counldn't prescribe a CII drug, he really believed it, or he thought that my concentration problems were mainly related to anxiety... most likely a combo of them all.
>
> Hmmm... so I don't know what I'd like to do with my meds right now. Maybe tell my doc they don't work well. Or maybe say nothing so he doesn't take them all away.In response to Quest. about my current med..
I'm taking Wellbutrin XL. No,I don't suffer from depression, I never have,wether from a sideffect or as a general condition. And yes I took a few doses of Adderall that was a leftover of an old prescription(for a teen that I know with severe Adhd, who is now on another med. altogether). I have been on Strattera,Ritalin,Wellbutrin(currently) and none of them worked near as well as the Adderall.
Posted by trent on May 2, 2007, at 21:21:25
In reply to Re: aadhd/medications, posted by crenshaw387 on April 27, 2007, at 23:51:31
> i never took any meds for ADD till this year.
> im now 27.
>
> my mom went ballistic with the schools whenever they suggested i see a psychiatric professional for ADD screenings and refused to take me....
>
> she told me that ADD was a form of "retardation" and the meds are just "tranquilizers" to control kids with brain damage.....
>
> if only i had been able to have the clarity in my mind that dexedrine gives me now, back when i was in school....
>
> i also take wellbutrin and started that beofre the dexedrine but i never noticed much help from it as far as the ADD goes. it did help with depression however quite well, which is what i take it for.Yes, jealibeanz, I was diagnosed at an early age for adhd. And according to my family ,my neurologist/PP, and my personal wreckage, I've never grown out of it. I,ve tried stopping meds for months at a time & the results have been . . . . . . . expensive. . ,emotionally,spiritually,and seriously financially.(Sometimes legally for that matter). I would love to find a way to stay LEVEL but balance for me has never been habitual. It has always been a lesson in self-analysis and constant re-evaluation.I score very high on I.Q. tests,(which I've heard alot of adults w/ our condition do), always aced my classes(when I was there)
and can learn to do anything . but when it comes to impulses,decisions,forethought,etc. etc. I've driven myself ,wife, parents,children, & friends to DISTRACTION. yeah,i know ha,ha. I really think this Adderall may help.....the Wellbutrin leaves alot to be desired, focuswise, and longevity of the effects.
Posted by jealibeanz on May 2, 2007, at 21:24:20
In reply to Re: aadhd/medications, posted by trent on May 2, 2007, at 21:21:25
I may take a risk and ask about taking Adderall again because this Ritalin is worthless to me and always has been.
Posted by trent on May 3, 2007, at 21:32:50
In reply to Re: aadhd/medications » trent, posted by jealibeanz on May 2, 2007, at 21:24:20
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> I may take a risk and ask about taking Adderall again because this Ritalin is worthless to me and always has been.
I don't understand? Are you asking me about taking Adderall? Or are you going to ask your physician? Because,I know it is made from two or three different amphetamine salts and that it effects a balance in levels of nuero-epinephrine
or at least more control in the inhibition or uptake of it(and possibly seratonin as well) in our brains. That is typical of all stimulants as a general rule in persons w/ this disorder/chemical-imbalance/affliction whatever.
Oh yeah, its also a controlled substance by the FDA.
Posted by jealibeanz on May 3, 2007, at 21:44:30
In reply to Re: aadhd/medications » jealibeanz, posted by trent on May 3, 2007, at 21:32:50
> >
> > I may take a risk and ask about taking Adderall again because this Ritalin is worthless to me and always has been.
>
>
> I don't understand? Are you asking me about taking Adderall? Or are you going to ask your physician? Because,I know it is made from two or three different amphetamine salts and that it effects a balance in levels of nuero-epinephrine
> or at least more control in the inhibition or uptake of it(and possibly seratonin as well) in our brains. That is typical of all stimulants as a general rule in persons w/ this disorder/chemical-imbalance/affliction whatever.
> Oh yeah, its also a controlled substance by the FDA.I meant asking my doctor about prescribing it. I know what the drug is and what it does. I've taken it before.
Posted by trent on May 3, 2007, at 21:52:33
In reply to Re: aadhd/medications, posted by jealibeanz on May 3, 2007, at 21:44:30
> > >
> > > I may take a risk and ask about taking Adderall again because this Ritalin is worthless to me and always has been.
> >
> >
> > I don't understand? Are you asking me about taking Adderall? Or are you going to ask your physician? Because,I know it is made from two or three different amphetamine salts and that it effects a balance in levels of nuero-epinephrine
> > or at least more control in the inhibition or uptake of it(and possibly seratonin as well) in our brains. That is typical of all stimulants as a general rule in persons w/ this disorder/chemical-imbalance/affliction whatever.
> > Oh yeah, its also a controlled substance by the FDA.
>
>
>
> I meant asking my doctor about prescribing it. I know what the drug is and what it does. I've taken it before.Okay, question answered.Now I have one,does anyone know of any case studies w/ adults and this med. that I can download and show to my P.phys.?
Posted by trent on May 8, 2007, at 22:37:06
In reply to Re: aadhd/medications, posted by trent on May 3, 2007, at 21:52:33
> > > >
> > > > I may take a risk and ask about taking Adderall again because this Ritalin is worthless to me and always has been.
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't understand? Are you asking me about taking Adderall? Or are you going to ask your physician? Because,I know it is made from two or three different amphetamine salts and that it effects a balance in levels of nuero-epinephrine
> > > or at least more control in the inhibition or uptake of it(and possibly seratonin as well) in our brains. That is typical of all stimulants as a general rule in persons w/ this disorder/chemical-imbalance/affliction whatever.
> > > Oh yeah, its also a controlled substance by the FDA.
> >
> >
> >
> > I meant asking my doctor about prescribing it. I know what the drug is and what it does. I've taken it before.
>
> Okay, question answered.Now I have one,does anyone know of any case studies w/ adults and this med. that I can download and show to my P.phys.?
>
> okay. . . . .I'll take that as a no.
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