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Posted by mindevolution on January 26, 2007, at 1:19:50
In reply to Abilify suck!, posted by Sebastian on January 25, 2007, at 20:40:40
> Panicing, paranoia, depression, mind pre-occupied.
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> Back on zyprexa 10mg.do you need an AP, if so, have you tried low dose (1mg) risperidone?
Posted by Sebastian on January 27, 2007, at 14:28:43
In reply to Re: Abilify suck!, posted by corafree on January 25, 2007, at 21:15:25
I've now tried abilify on 4 trials. It had good things and bad. The energy is great, just not all the time. Lack of appatite great. Panic all day, bad. Rapid thoughts. It did make me more wanting to be around people. Thats why I tried it again, for a whole month. I still take 5 mg a day and back on 10mg zyprexa. Seeing how it goes I may not always take 10mg zyprexa a day, not sure I need quite that much.
Posted by Sebastian on January 27, 2007, at 14:39:06
In reply to Re: Abilify suck!, posted by Phillipa on January 25, 2007, at 22:09:40
I liked it a lot better during the middle of the trial month. the first week was hell going through withdraw from zyprexa and starting abilify. After that it had a real good effect for about 2 weeks then anxiety and panic and paranoia, psychotic thoughts. the other thing that happened I started drinking and smoking more to calm down. I've cut down on that, back up on zyprexa.
Posted by Sebastian on January 27, 2007, at 14:45:35
In reply to Re: Abilify suck!, posted by mindevolution on January 26, 2007, at 1:19:50
Yes I've tried Risperdal, that was noot good either. I holucinated, was stiff as a board. Risperdal was one of the worst APs I ever took. Geodon was not a whole lot better than risperdal. I just didn't get stiff like a board instead I got blury vision, which has been going away since starting the abilify and stoping geodon. Have not tried seroquel, but it does not look like it has any advantage over zyprexa. And I know how good zyprexa is. Now I just need to cure the diabetes.
Posted by blueberry1 on January 27, 2007, at 18:33:22
In reply to Abilify suck!, posted by Sebastian on January 25, 2007, at 20:40:40
Hey, I've talked badly about zyprexa. But you know, as I look back at my history it was actually a pretty good drug. I hate to admit it, but I kind of miss it. I had lots of problems with prozac+zyprexa...butterflies in the stomach upon waking that would go away with coffee and a cig, a feeling of abandonment dread upon waking that would go away with coffee and a cig, kind of emotionally numb like ssris do, not motivated or interested in things unless I had to do them, socially withdrawn. BUT, and this is a big but, I wasn't depressed and had no anxiety and slept good, ate good, had good sex drive and ability, watched TV, listened to talk radio, enjoyed music a little bit. Right now, months after stopping prozac and 1 month after stopping zyprexa, the butterflies abandonment dread stuff at waking is gone, but I'm very depressed, filled with anxiety, don't eat well, sleep poorly, never watch TV, never listen to the radio or music, am even more socially withdrawn than ever, and sex drive is actually worse off meds.
Sometimes when I tried different things I got adverse reactions such as high anxiety or panic attacks. Lexapro did it. Marijuana did it. Various supplements or herbs did it. I could ALWAYS count on zyprexa to totally block it within 2 hours. It saved me many times.
Sorry abilify went badly. I can relate. You kind of reminded me though, that even with the metabolic and sugar risks of zyprexa, it is a darn good drug. I can't believe I miss it, after all the bad things I've said about antipsychotics.
Posted by rina on January 28, 2007, at 0:56:19
In reply to Abilify suck!, posted by Sebastian on January 25, 2007, at 20:40:40
> Panicing, paranoia, depression, mind pre-occupied.
>
> Back on zyprexa 10mg.I was really glad to see your response. I've never keep a log of my meds and the side effects on them. Have you always done this? Has it been a good tool?
Posted by Clockwork Ange on January 28, 2007, at 18:44:42
In reply to Abilify suck!, posted by Sebastian on January 25, 2007, at 20:40:40
> Panicing, paranoia, depression, mind pre-occupied.
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> Back on zyprexa 10mg.When I was on it this past summer, I had felt the same- TONS of anxiety, some depression and my mind was mush... yucky yuck
Posted by theo on January 28, 2007, at 22:15:44
In reply to Re: Abilify suck!, posted by Sebastian on January 27, 2007, at 14:28:43
Do you take the Abilify morning or evening?
Posted by Sebastian on January 30, 2007, at 12:08:42
In reply to Re: Abilify suck! » Sebastian, posted by theo on January 28, 2007, at 22:15:44
Still taking 5mg Abilify, half at breakfast and half at lunch. Also taking 10mg zyprexa, but think I will not take the whole dose all the time, as it builds up the effect is not as good.
The Abilify at 5mg seems to help too. Gives me energy, controls my appatite, and my blood sugar is not going up very much, even though I take 10mg. Wonder does abilify lower blood sugar?
Posted by corafree on January 31, 2007, at 6:34:31
In reply to Re: Abilify, posted by Sebastian on January 30, 2007, at 12:08:42
So it sounds like now Abilify doesn't suck.
cool, cf
Posted by Sebastian on February 2, 2007, at 11:43:40
In reply to Re: Abilify, posted by corafree on January 31, 2007, at 6:34:31
Yes its good in combination with zyprexa, but not good for me by itself.
Posted by Sebastian on February 7, 2007, at 18:31:53
In reply to Re: Abilify, posted by Sebastian on January 30, 2007, at 12:08:42
I was wrong, Abilify does not lower blood sugar. Been taking 10mg zyprexa for a week or two, and now and my blood sugar is starting to go up agian.
So now I back to taking 5-10mg instead of 10 all the time.
Posted by Fivefires on February 8, 2007, at 18:29:01
In reply to Re: Abilify suck!, posted by blueberry1 on January 27, 2007, at 18:33:22
Hey threadees ...
Am I correct - Abilify sucks in the beginning but not in the end?
Am I correct - Abilify is best taken or works best taken alongside an antipsychotic?
Am I correct - This is a bipolar regimen?
Am I correct - Maybe subject line of thread could now be 'Zyprexa and Abilify Okay' at this point?
Am I correct - I am FOS & this is not a test?
After reading all posts, I'm confused. Butt, I'm interested in 'the final analysis'. I wonder Abilify is something I may need in my med cab (actually lockbox!) in future and getting the feeling it's a med you need to ride out until positive results surface. And, is that correct?
I hate waiting. My P told me this 2day and is correct. I pray I grow 2b a more patient person with more self-discipline.
I always use the excuse 'I live alone and have no one to do the ADLs should I be incapacitated'.
Can someone please explain? Seriously, I've been very ill and I really want to 'get' this thread.
RoyalPainNUButts .. SawWee, 5f
Posted by rina on February 8, 2007, at 18:41:59
In reply to Re: Abilify suck!, posted by Fivefires on February 8, 2007, at 18:29:01
> Hey threadees ...
>
> Am I correct - Abilify sucks in the beginning but not in the end?
>
> Am I correct - Abilify is best taken or works best taken alongside an antipsychotic?
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> Am I correct - This is a bipolar regimen?
>
> Am I correct - Maybe subject line of thread could now be 'Zyprexa and Abilify Okay' at this point?
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> Am I correct - I am FOS & this is not a test?
>
> After reading all posts, I'm confused. Butt, I'm interested in 'the final analysis'. I wonder Abilify is something I may need in my med cab (actually lockbox!) in future and getting the feeling it's a med you need to ride out until positive results surface. And, is that correct?
>
> I hate waiting. My P told me this 2day and is correct. I pray I grow 2b a more patient person with more self-discipline.
>
> I always use the excuse 'I live alone and have no one to do the ADLs should I be incapacitated'.
>
> Can someone please explain? Seriously, I've been very ill and I really want to 'get' this thread.
>
> RoyalPainNUButts .. SawWee, 5fI'm not sure if time will enhance Abilify because I've been on it for two weeks now. I'm ringing the doorbell but no one's answering...lol Now my pdoc has decided to include Topamax into the cocktail of Abilify 30mg,Lamictal300mg and Topamax, don't know yet.
Posted by Phillipa on February 8, 2007, at 20:47:35
In reply to Re: Abilify suck!, posted by Fivefires on February 8, 2007, at 18:29:01
Five fires abilify is atypical antipsychotic. You don't need that for bipolar unless you are psychotic are you?Love Phillipa
Posted by Fivefires on February 8, 2007, at 22:37:57
In reply to Re: Abilify suck! » Fivefires, posted by Phillipa on February 8, 2007, at 20:47:35
Right. I'm getting from what you say, Abilify is one of quite a few, this one an anti-psychotic, which seems to help in many other areas than specified by its indicated usage.
I'm still curious tho' about how long it might take to reveal improvement in one's condition.
And, this is because, 'tada!', I took it last year and didn't even remember until was going through little stack of scrips other day.
I stayed on it probably only a few days and then did one of my 'run out the waiting room screaming skits', a little gift for your imagination pleasure; discontinuing it promptly.
I used to say (like, I think, yesterday) 'anything that causes me to feel this bad can't ever cause me to feel good', but I'm currently trying to adjust this way of thinking and maybe practice and learn (at my age?) patience can pay off.
tu, 5f
Posted by Sebastian on February 9, 2007, at 8:04:52
In reply to Re: Abilify suck!, posted by Fivefires on February 8, 2007, at 18:29:01
> Hey threadees ...
Hey
>
> Am I correct - Abilify sucks in the beginning but not in the end?Yes, side-effects become more tolerable.
>
> Am I correct - Abilify is best taken or works best taken alongside an antipsychotic?Yes because it makes me anxious and jittery. Taken with my zyprexa the side-effects are more tollerable. Without it, abillify does not work well.
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> Am I correct - This is a bipolar regimen?Officially my last diagnosis is schitzoaffective.
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> Am I correct - Maybe subject line of thread could now be 'Zyprexa and Abilify Okay' at this point?Not sure the abillify does anything. My doctor told me to keep taking it, I didn't want to or see the point.
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> Am I correct - I am FOS & this is not a test?You are correct.
Abilify is FOS.>
> After reading all posts, I'm confused. Butt, I'm interested in 'the final analysis'. I wonder Abilify is something I may need in my med cab (actually lockbox!) in future and getting the feeling it's a med you need to ride out until positive results surface. And, is that correct?I realy don't see any positive results. I stoped taking it today to see what happens.
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> I hate waiting. My P told me this 2day and is correct. I pray I grow 2b a more patient person with more self-discipline.Wait no longer, if you need something stimulating thats it, but sure is expensive.
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> I always use the excuse 'I live alone and have no one to do the ADLs should I be incapacitated'.
>
> Can someone please explain? Seriously, I've been very ill and I really want to 'get' this thread.
>
> RoyalPainNUButts .. SawWee, 5f
Posted by rina on February 9, 2007, at 10:44:04
In reply to Re: Abilify » Phillipa, posted by Fivefires on February 8, 2007, at 22:37:57
> Right. I'm getting from what you say, Abilify is one of quite a few, this one an anti-psychotic, which seems to help in many other areas than specified by its indicated usage.
>
> I'm still curious tho' about how long it might take to reveal improvement in one's condition.
>
> And, this is because, 'tada!', I took it last year and didn't even remember until was going through little stack of scrips other day.
>
> I stayed on it probably only a few days and then did one of my 'run out the waiting room screaming skits', a little gift for your imagination pleasure; discontinuing it promptly.
>
> I used to say (like, I think, yesterday) 'anything that causes me to feel this bad can't ever cause me to feel good', but I'm currently trying to adjust this way of thinking and maybe practice and learn (at my age?) patience can pay off.
>
> tu, 5f
Here's the thing with Abilify for me. I've been taking it for two weeks and I feel like t*t...I've nausea, twitches,depression, totally dissiness and sleepiness, oh and don't forget the vomitting. When oh when, shall my Abilify work?...when oh when..shall my Abilify work...Capital N..cap...E...cap...V...E..R!! Yehaww.
Posted by rina on February 9, 2007, at 10:48:55
In reply to Re: Abilify suck! » Fivefires, posted by Phillipa on February 8, 2007, at 20:47:35
> Five fires abilify is atypical antipsychotic. You don't need that for bipolar unless you are psychotic are you?Love Phillipa
Hey Phillipa,Did I tell you I love ya today?...lol I've had a psychotic episode once in my life, which was two weeks ago. Hopefully won't have another any time soon.
Posted by Fivefires on February 9, 2007, at 11:24:13
In reply to Re: Abilify suck!, posted by Sebastian on February 9, 2007, at 8:04:52
Tks S, for the insight.
You've got a good sense of humor and 'you get' my attempt at one!
Sounds like Abilify should be used very carefully as to its 'inability' to balance the scales i.e. too little, too much, can't stand alone, works well and then doesn't; a 'high maintenance(?)' medication.
bestwishes, 5f
Posted by Sebastian on February 10, 2007, at 19:29:19
In reply to Re: Abilify suck! » Sebastian, posted by Fivefires on February 9, 2007, at 11:24:13
Yes I'm crazy. I crashed hard. Yesterday I didn't take any of my meds, except for 200mg wellbutrin sr in the morning. Felt great untill last nights sleep. No meds = insecure anxiety, no energy, drinking more.
Posted by rina on February 10, 2007, at 19:32:36
In reply to Re: Back on Abilify!, posted by Sebastian on February 10, 2007, at 19:29:19
Wow!!!
This Abilify really sucks. It makes me very sleepy along with the lamictal. No energy,strength or desire to do anything. I finally took a ritalin and even though it made me feel better, it kind of made me a bit depressed. Weird!!
Posted by Sebastian on February 10, 2007, at 19:37:25
In reply to I had to take a ritalin to feel better but worse.., posted by rina on February 10, 2007, at 19:32:36
Not to go back on my word, but yes I do belive abilify is a diet pill. My blood sure was worse this morning on no meds than when i finaly took zyprexa celexa, abilify, wellbutrin sr and ate.
Posted by rina on February 10, 2007, at 19:42:43
In reply to Re: abilify, posted by Sebastian on February 10, 2007, at 19:37:25
> Not to go back on my word, but yes I do belive abilify is a diet pill. My blood sure was worse this morning on no meds than when i finaly took zyprexa celexa, abilify, wellbutrin sr and ate.
that's the total opposite for me. The Abilify is making me ravenously hungry....lol
Posted by Sebastian on February 11, 2007, at 13:32:08
In reply to Re: abilify, posted by rina on February 10, 2007, at 19:42:43
the first time I took abilify at 15mg with no zyprexa, I found myself to eat more, feel tired all the time and not sleep.
Maybe small doses work better, with zyprexa. Currently I cut a 15mg pill in 4 and take 2 pieces a day. One at breakfast and one at lunch, zyprexa at night.
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