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Posted by Phillipa on July 3, 2006, at 22:16:59
In reply to Can't remember name of med - HELP, posted by Maxime on July 3, 2006, at 22:15:04
Maxie who would know? Maybe I have their e-mail. Love Jan
Posted by Racer on July 3, 2006, at 22:27:45
In reply to Can't remember name of med - HELP, posted by Maxime on July 3, 2006, at 22:15:04
Is it tianepine? Brand name Stablon, it's the selective serotonin reuptake ENHANCER, and I'm interested in trying it, too.
I hope that's the one, and I hope your pdoc will work with you to get you on it for a fair trial -- and that you'll feel so great you'll share it with the rest of us!
xoxo
Posted by Maxime on July 3, 2006, at 22:54:56
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on July 3, 2006, at 22:16:59
> Maxie who would know? Maybe I have their e-mail. Love Jan
The love of my life, ED UK, knows. It's just that my appt is early in the morning. Well I suppose I can call him with the information.
Hugs, Maxie
Posted by Maxime on July 3, 2006, at 22:57:49
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP, posted by Racer on July 3, 2006, at 22:27:45
> Is it tianepine? Brand name Stablon, it's the selective serotonin reuptake ENHANCER, and I'm interested in trying it, too.
>
> I hope that's the one, and I hope your pdoc will work with you to get you on it for a fair trial -- and that you'll feel so great you'll share it with the rest of us!
>
> xoxo((( Racer ))) bless you. Now I can find info on it and print it out for him. I don't know if he will try and get for me. I will let everyone know tomorrow.
Thanks again!
xxx
Maxime
Posted by Phillipa on July 3, 2006, at 22:59:29
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on July 3, 2006, at 22:54:56
Maxie you have his telephone number. Well if you call him ask him where he's been. And remember there's a 5hour difference in time between England and the US I know you're in Canada maybe 6 then? Right now it's 6am there. Love Jan
Posted by Maxime on July 3, 2006, at 23:07:21
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP, posted by Racer on July 3, 2006, at 22:27:45
But how do people obtain it? It's not available in North America?
Maxime
Posted by Maxime on July 3, 2006, at 23:38:01
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on July 3, 2006, at 22:59:29
> Maxie you have his telephone number. Well if you call him ask him where he's been. And remember there's a 5hour difference in time between England and the US I know you're in Canada maybe 6 then? Right now it's 6am there. Love Jan
Him = my pdoc :-)
Maxime
Posted by Racer on July 4, 2006, at 2:12:16
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP » Racer, posted by Maxime on July 3, 2006, at 23:07:21
I don't know all the ins and outs, but I do think it's different between the US and Canada. Here in the US, it's possible to import small amounts of some unapproved drugs under some circumstances, although it's not strictly speaking legal. It's kinda a grey area. (Man, I'm tired! Truly, folks, I do know how to speak and write English, even so it makes sense...)
I'm not sure what you'd do in Canada. You'd be buying the stuff online, probably, although I'd certainly get with your doctor about both dosing and obtaining it. You'll want to get it from a legit pharmacy, which might make it harder? I don't know what the foreign laws are about that. Ed may know of a good source of it, although you can call your pdoc after you get a pharmacy name, since I think you'd still need a prescription.
Oh, and Pfinstegg was taking it. You might want to see about babblemailing her, see how she gets it. Or google the archives, see if you can find her posts on the subject.
I hope you get it worked out. I have no idea how Canadian laws work, so I can't tell you where to look for info. Do you know what the equivalent of the Federal Drug Administration would be? That's where I'd imagine you'd find information about importing unapproved drugs for personal use.
xoxo
Posted by snapper on July 4, 2006, at 4:11:22
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP » Racer, posted by Maxime on July 3, 2006, at 23:07:21
> But how do people obtain it? It's not available in North America?
>
> MaximeHi Maxime, 7 to 8 years ago I actually had my pdoc write a SCRIPT for Reboxetine (non-controlled or approved ) in US yet, and I legitimately ordered it from an overseas Pharmacy. By the way Dr. Bob I am not suggesting anything as far as illegal or un-approved meds . If I am not mistaken, it IS legal for us in N america and Canada to request that out doc's write a script for meds that are not yet approved here. Maxime I hope that helps and Best of Luck to you!
Snapper
Posted by bassman on July 4, 2006, at 11:32:31
In reply to Can't remember name of med - HELP, posted by Maxime on July 3, 2006, at 22:15:04
You might be interested in this abstract:
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/77002748/ABSTRACT?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
Posted by Phillipa on July 4, 2006, at 12:09:28
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP, posted by Racer on July 3, 2006, at 22:27:45
Yes that's the name I E-mailed Declan and he got back to me today. He said it has no side effects and is a mood enhancer Love Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on July 4, 2006, at 12:10:56
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on July 3, 2006, at 23:38:01
Maxie I thought you meant Ed he hasn't been around in a while. Love Jan
Posted by Maxime on July 4, 2006, at 19:45:07
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on July 4, 2006, at 12:10:56
Well i wasted my appointment. i couldn't talk at my appointment ... my depression is so bad that i couldn't express myself. i am no longer on an antidepressant, but i am back on Trileptal. i didn't ask about the stablon. in canada you would have go through health canada ... get their permission. tons of paperwork ... red tape.
so i wasted my appointment.loser.
maxime
Posted by Phillipa on July 4, 2006, at 19:54:26
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP, posted by Maxime on July 4, 2006, at 19:45:07
Maxie couldn't the doc see how depressed you were? So what meds total are you now on? Can you call on the phone? Love Jan
Posted by Maxime on July 4, 2006, at 20:38:22
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on July 4, 2006, at 19:54:26
> Maxie couldn't the doc see how depressed you were? So what meds total are you now on? Can you call on the phone? Love Jan
He could see. I am now on:
klonopin
trileptal
synthroid
Asthma medsNo I can't call on the phone. It's a privacy thing ... nothing personal. :-)
I know that it is only a matter of time before I end up being a statistic. I just have no idea of when.
Maxime
Posted by Phillipa on July 4, 2006, at 20:43:36
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on July 4, 2006, at 20:38:22
Maxie I thought you were back on parnate? Are they nuts no AD? Love Jan
Posted by Maxime on July 4, 2006, at 21:20:57
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on July 4, 2006, at 20:43:36
> Maxie I thought you were back on parnate? Are they nuts no AD? Love Jan
Nope ... no AD. The parnate doesn't work for me anymore. There are no ADs left for me try. Hopeless.
Maxime
Posted by Phillipa on July 4, 2006, at 21:35:15
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on July 4, 2006, at 21:20:57
Maxie what about EMSAM? Love Jan
Posted by snapper on July 5, 2006, at 2:06:03
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on July 4, 2006, at 21:35:15
Maxime, I know factually MANY of us here have been in your horrible spot before....and it feels oh so wothless, hopless and non-worth pursuing the next idea , thought or intervention and thread of hope to get to that nest step. WHAT do we need to do as your online friends need to do,(short of actually being there with you personally-:) to get you the help you have to have, to get back and keep riding and fighting the fight. ?? Please let me or any of us know what it is!!!
You DO NOT SEE THE POINT RIGHT NOW BUT WE DO. WHAT CAN WE DO FOR YOU TO KEEP SEEKING FOR HELP AND ANSWERS?!!
I am very serious
Snapper
Posted by bassman on July 5, 2006, at 5:46:03
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP » Phillipa, posted by snapper on July 5, 2006, at 2:06:03
Very well put, Snapper. Most of us know the "I just can't do this for another day!" feeling-followed by a torrent of tears- (that's the way I experience it, anyway).
Maxime, we've been there and can and are willing to be of help-support-whatever. We've suffered/are suffering as you are now and want to be part of shortening that suffering for you. There is support in the world; there are med combinations that can help; and there are people that are concerned about you. Please keep writing...
Posted by Maxime on July 5, 2006, at 10:18:16
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on July 4, 2006, at 21:35:15
> Maxie what about EMSAM? Love Jan
Not available in Canada.
Maxime
Posted by Maxime on July 7, 2006, at 0:31:50
In reply to Re: Can't remember name of med - HELP, posted by Maxime on July 5, 2006, at 10:18:16
I think I am grieving right now. I'm grieving the loss of options. I know I shouldn't be stuck with the idea that a pill is going to save me from my own self-destruction ... but I am. When a pdoc tells you "you've tried all meds and you don't respond to them", it's hard news to swallow. More difficult than any pill.
Maxime
Posted by MidnightBlue on July 7, 2006, at 0:42:37
In reply to Lost for words, posted by Maxime on July 7, 2006, at 0:31:50
I'm sorry Maxime!
You haven't tried EVERY option. Just those that are available in Canada. I haven't given up on you yet. I know things look bleak, but circumstances can change. It is always darkest right before dawn.
Hugs,
MidnightBlue
> I think I am grieving right now. I'm grieving the loss of options. I know I shouldn't be stuck with the idea that a pill is going to save me from my own self-destruction ... but I am. When a pdoc tells you "you've tried all meds and you don't respond to them", it's hard news to swallow. More difficult than any pill.
>
> Maxime
Posted by Racer on July 7, 2006, at 1:54:53
In reply to Lost for words, posted by Maxime on July 7, 2006, at 0:31:50
Hey, Maxie. I'm sorry things seem so bleak to you right now. Does it help to know that I heard the same thing -- AND IT WASN'T TRUE??? I know you like your doctor, which is great, but you know what? That doesn't mean he's thought of everything.
I have to ask you, though -- what would it take for you to feel better? If it was a change in your life, what change would it be? If it was a drug, what would the drug do? What symptoms would go away to make your life bearable? Positively pleasurable? What would "feeling better" look like for you? What can we offer here -- besides our support and affection -- that might help you?
Take good care of yourself, and don't forget you maybe could email someone you know... ;-)
Posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2006, at 21:56:08
In reply to Lost for words, posted by Maxime on July 7, 2006, at 0:31:50
Maxie grieving is a good thing. Today after two years I think I'm done grieving my dog of l7yrs who died two years ago. We've been walking the one next door white like my Brandy was and we do have a black toy poodle like Sheeba the other dog we lost. And the light dawned. Maybe I'm too old to have any more real babies but I'm not too old to have another baby Brandy. I know it is a different dog. I found a cocapoo to day sp? . And tomorrow we will take our current Toy poodle to choose the one he likes best as a friend. This spirals as it will help to make me happy to have a white dog like Brandy back in my life. Responsibilities and all the work. But if I'm a bit happier maybe I can go back to work and nursing is the only thing that has ever made me feel truly worthwhile. I know these things are supposed to only be inside. But it works for me and those around me sometimes I'm so dense. But I think I finally found my own personal solution. Something to love and something I do take pride in as I won every award there was. So remember the volunteer work you did and how good it made you feel? Think about it that's all.Love Phillipa
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