Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 650415

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Lamictal and thinking

Posted by detroitpistons on May 30, 2006, at 10:20:21

I'm on Lamictal 300 mg, and it seems like my brain is not functioning very well. My memory is horrid, and I get confused and can't figure out simple things. I guy asked me simple directions last week and it took me a minute to figure it out. I had taken the same route for the entire week before that. This is something that I would normally have blurted out in a second.

I was put on Lamictal because I was hypomanic even though Lamictal doesn't have very good antimanic properties.

I've been put on Adderall XR and I'm at 10 mg right now and I'm going to have to go up because this dosage isn't doing the trick. Even before the Lamictal I had attention problems though, so it's not that I'm taking the Adderall just because of this Lamictal side effect. The Lamictal has just made the situation worse.

Marc

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking

Posted by SLS on May 30, 2006, at 10:37:21

In reply to Lamictal and thinking, posted by detroitpistons on May 30, 2006, at 10:20:21

I echo your experience. Lamictal 300mg made me very stupid and greatly impaired my memory. I found that these cognitive side effects are greatly reduced at lower dosages. I am currently taking 150mg. I think that some people get trapped into taking higher dosages of Lamictal, as it seems necessary to keep raising the dosage in order to produce a persistent improvement. Ultimately, the degree of improvement plateaus, even at the higher dosages. Then, when one tries to reduce the dosage, a rebound depression appears, convincing them that the higher dosage is necessary. I found that this rebound depression dissipated within a few days and that I felt just as well on 100mg as I did on 300mg.


- Scott

> I'm on Lamictal 300 mg, and it seems like my brain is not functioning very well. My memory is horrid, and I get confused and can't figure out simple things. I guy asked me simple directions last week and it took me a minute to figure it out. I had taken the same route for the entire week before that. This is something that I would normally have blurted out in a second.
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> I've been put on Adderall XR and I'm at 10 mg right now and I'm going to have to go up because this dosage isn't doing the trick. Even before the Lamictal I had attention problems though, so it's not that I'm taking the Adderall just because of this Lamictal side effect. The Lamictal has just made the situation worse.
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> Marc
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Re: Lamictal and thinking

Posted by MARTY on May 30, 2006, at 20:44:50

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking, posted by SLS on May 30, 2006, at 10:37:21

I, too, echo your experience. I'm a 300mg and my memory is just near zero. I'm a software developper and barely can do the 1/4 of what I could do before I start taking psychopharmacologic meds.

I agree with all Scoot said about dosing, plateau etc. At lower dose you even have a better Antidepressant effect. (Yes, Lamictal has one)


Marty

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking » SLS

Posted by Phillipa on May 30, 2006, at 22:00:38

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking, posted by SLS on May 30, 2006, at 10:37:21

Scott I'll remember that not to go above 200mg of lamictal. Did you take it in the morning or at night? Love Phillipa

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking

Posted by detroitpistons on May 30, 2006, at 22:54:21

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking, posted by MARTY on May 30, 2006, at 20:44:50

Marty,

I'm going to hang in there for a little while, but if things don't get better I'm going to ask the doctor to take me down to 200 mg.

It seems like these cognitive problems aren't all that rare with Lamictal, yet it's not listed in the "most common side effects" or in the "possible side effects" or even in the "freaky rare side effects," as crazymeds.org puts it.


> I, too, echo your experience. I'm a 300mg and my memory is just near zero. I'm a software developper and barely can do the 1/4 of what I could do before I start taking psychopharmacologic meds.
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> I agree with all Scoot said about dosing, plateau etc. At lower dose you even have a better Antidepressant effect. (Yes, Lamictal has one)
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> Marty

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking » detroitpistons

Posted by MARTY on May 30, 2006, at 23:58:37

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking, posted by detroitpistons on May 30, 2006, at 22:54:21

> I'm going to hang in there for a little while, but if things don't get better I'm going to ask the doctor to take me down to 200 mg.

That would be a good move. I don't think things could get better since this side effect doesn't fade with time.

Marty

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking » Phillipa

Posted by SLS on May 31, 2006, at 5:56:58

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking » SLS, posted by Phillipa on May 30, 2006, at 22:00:38

> Scott I'll remember that not to go above 200mg of lamictal. Did you take it in the morning or at night? Love Phillipa

I like to split my dosage. I take 75mg morning and night.


- Scott

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking

Posted by detroitpistons on May 31, 2006, at 9:00:47

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking » detroitpistons, posted by MARTY on May 30, 2006, at 23:58:37

> That would be a good move. I don't think things could get better since this side effect doesn't fade with time.
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I agree, but I'm starting the Adderall and I want to see if it helps any.

On a different note, my doctor almost seems annoyed with me. I don't think he takes me very seriously. I think he thinks I am an obsessive hypochondriac. Since I've started with him, I've only been sufficiently well for short periods of time and I need a lot of adjustments with meds. He seems frustrated that I need so much tweaking. I just think he'll be annoyed if I ask him to take the Lamictal down, but I have to do it anyways.

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking

Posted by urizenbrooklyn on May 31, 2006, at 13:57:58

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking, posted by detroitpistons on May 31, 2006, at 9:00:47

I'm on 100mg, and though I felt a significant change when I initially started I haven't felt any changes with subsequent dosage increases. I'm suppossed to start on 200mg tonight, but after reading this post I almost don't see the point. It's not that the Lamictal isn't working, it definetly has. All of my close friends and family have told me I seem more relaxed and in control. I still have swings, but they're not as severe and I'm far less anxious. Should I talk to my doctor about sticking with 100mg? I only have a two week prescription for the 200mg, should I just stick it out? These drugs are not a silver bullet; with psychotherapy and exercise I think I'll keep this disease at bay. I didn't expect the Lamictal to cure me, it's done enough already.

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking » urizenbrooklyn

Posted by detroitpistons on May 31, 2006, at 14:23:00

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking, posted by urizenbrooklyn on May 31, 2006, at 13:57:58

When I went to 300 mg, I did feel a positive effect. From what I understand, Lamictal's antidepressant effects don't get any better after 200 mg. However, the mood stabilization effects can continue to get better with increased doses, sometimes as high as 500 or 600 mg.

If you feel OK on 100 mg, then just stick with that. When I was on 200 mg, I was still not well so that's why I went up. But if you're OK, then what's the point of going up?

By the way, if your doctor asks why you don't want to go up and you tell him it's because you fear cognitive difficulties, he may not know what you're talking about. This isn't something that's talked about much as a side effect by anybody but the people who take it, like the people on this board. Not everyone may experience this side effect though, especially at a relatively low dose like 200 mg. People with epilepsy take much higher doses. I don't think I had this problem when I was at 200 mg. Again, only go up if you think you need to...Just my 2 pennies.


> I'm on 100mg, and though I felt a significant change when I initially started I haven't felt any changes with subsequent dosage increases. I'm suppossed to start on 200mg tonight, but after reading this post I almost don't see the point. It's not that the Lamictal isn't working, it definetly has. All of my close friends and family have told me I seem more relaxed and in control. I still have swings, but they're not as severe and I'm far less anxious. Should I talk to my doctor about sticking with 100mg? I only have a two week prescription for the 200mg, should I just stick it out? These drugs are not a silver bullet; with psychotherapy and exercise I think I'll keep this disease at bay. I didn't expect the Lamictal to cure me, it's done enough already.
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Re: Lamictal and thinking

Posted by urizenbrooklyn on May 31, 2006, at 14:38:44

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking » urizenbrooklyn, posted by detroitpistons on May 31, 2006, at 14:23:00

Thank You for your thoughtful and helpful response.

I think I can still benefit from the increased antidepressant aspects of the drug. I'm at a stressful point in my life. I'm about to travel around the world (literaly) in a month, and then I'm starting graduate school in September. Though this is exceedingly postive, it's stressful and my anxiety level has been high. What I'm hoping is that if I go up to 200mg now it doesn't mean I can't come back down to a lower dose later on in my life. This if my first experience with medication. Though I've exhibited bi-polar symptoms most of my life, in the past I've treated it with exercise and psychotherapy alone. The past few years have been especially tough, as I've had a string of personal and professional losses, and I've stopped exercising regularly. I needed something else, the manic periods stopped being fun, and intense anxiety emerged as a new symptom. I'm still young, I turn 25 in a week, and hope that with healthy living and self-monitoring I can use the meds as one tool amongst many. From what you say I could still benefit from this dose increase. I'll see how it goes for the next 2 weeks.

> When I went to 300 mg, I did feel a positive effect. From what I understand, Lamictal's antidepressant effects don't get any better after 200 mg. However, the mood stabilization effects can continue to get better with increased doses, sometimes as high as 500 or 600 mg.
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> If you feel OK on 100 mg, then just stick with that. When I was on 200 mg, I was still not well so that's why I went up. But if you're OK, then what's the point of going up?
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> By the way, if your doctor asks why you don't want to go up and you tell him it's because you fear cognitive difficulties, he may not know what you're talking about. This isn't something that's talked about much as a side effect by anybody but the people who take it, like the people on this board. Not everyone may experience this side effect though, especially at a relatively low dose like 200 mg. People with epilepsy take much higher doses. I don't think I had this problem when I was at 200 mg. Again, only go up if you think you need to...Just my 2 pennies.
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Re: Lamictal and thinking » urizenbrooklyn

Posted by detroitpistons on May 31, 2006, at 16:11:58

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking, posted by urizenbrooklyn on May 31, 2006, at 14:38:44

I am truly happy any time I can help someone with some of the knowledge that I've gained through my hours upon hours of layman's research. There are people on this board that know more than I'll ever be able to comprehend.

Anyways, I forgot that you said this:

"I still have swings, but they're not as severe and I'm far less anxious."

Are you having normal day to day mood swings, or are you rapid cycling?

The reason I increased from 200 to 300 mg of Lamictal is because I still wasn't settled yet. I'd be depressed for a day, then up for a day. A better way to put it is that it was sort of a mixed state that would cycle between better and worse. That's why I went up to 300 mg and also raised my Effexor dose. I don't know if it was the Effexor or the Lamictal, but I felt a little better. I'm still feeling pretty hypomanic/anxious though, so it's not perfect.

Lamictal is supposedly good for rapid cycling and mixed states. However, Lamictal isn't considered a really good antimanic...That's why I think I'm still hypomanic. I should probably be adding something like Depakote or Seroquel.

Be prepared for the fact that you will probably have to tweak medications. Don't get discouraged if a medication stops working or doesn't work as well as it once did. For example, mood stabilizers will increase the time between episodes, but they won't eliminate episodes altogether. When you finally do start getting an episode, you'll have to switch meds. You want to be able to recognize the early warning signs of an episode so that it rarely becomes full blown.

You said you are 25. I'm 27. Every year I learn more and more about this illness(es) and I think that over time I'll be able to manage it better and better. I've learned a lot about myself. You should read "The Bipolar Disorder Survival Guide: What You and Your Family Need to Know."

Keep us posted about the Lamictal increase.

Take care,

Marc

> Thank You for your thoughtful and helpful response.
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> I think I can still benefit from the increased antidepressant aspects of the drug. I'm at a stressful point in my life. I'm about to travel around the world (literaly) in a month, and then I'm starting graduate school in September. Though this is exceedingly postive, it's stressful and my anxiety level has been high. What I'm hoping is that if I go up to 200mg now it doesn't mean I can't come back down to a lower dose later on in my life. This if my first experience with medication. Though I've exhibited bi-polar symptoms most of my life, in the past I've treated it with exercise and psychotherapy alone. The past few years have been especially tough, as I've had a string of personal and professional losses, and I've stopped exercising regularly. I needed something else, the manic periods stopped being fun, and intense anxiety emerged as a new symptom. I'm still young, I turn 25 in a week, and hope that with healthy living and self-monitoring I can use the meds as one tool amongst many. From what you say I could still benefit from this dose increase. I'll see how it goes for the next 2 weeks.
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Re: Lamictal and thinking, adderall, school, SSRIs

Posted by collegegal on June 5, 2006, at 10:23:26

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking » urizenbrooklyn, posted by detroitpistons on May 31, 2006, at 16:11:58

OK, I am taking 200 mg of Lamictil a day. I was on antidepressants for a while, and this is all for an eating disorder that has some suspected comorbid disorders like a mood disorder and anxiety. I am pre-med and entering my senior year of college. My courses are extrememly difficult, and in the past, even in relatively difficult courses, I have never received below an A. I am afraid that the Lamactil is affecting me at a crucial time. Do any of you think that it would decrease academic performance? That scares me very much because GPA is important, and I have always wanted to go into medicine. I guess it is quite possible now that the eating disorder could indirecty ruin my life-long aspiration. I am very scared. Any thoughts? I suppose reverting back to SSRI's is a possibility, but I hate that idea because I absolutely CANNOT acheive an orgasm if I take more than 25 mg (of Effexor), which is a worthless dose. I am thinking of asking my psychiatrist on Thursday if she will consider starting me on adderall. Did that help you "detroitpistons?"

Thanks everyone,

Amanda

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking, adderall, school, SSRIs

Posted by urizenbrooklyn on June 5, 2006, at 11:12:28

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking, adderall, school, SSRIs, posted by collegegal on June 5, 2006, at 10:23:26

I'm on 200mg of Lamictal currently and it's done well for me thus far, though I've only been taking it for a little over a month. After 25mg I felt a drastic decrease in my anxiety level and my depressive tendencies. Recently despite the upped dose, my anxiety has returned in dribs and drabs, when next I see my doctor I'm going to discuss this issue with her. This may also have to do with the fact that in a month I'll begin an around the world journey and this fall I'll be starting graduate school (and moving). I have a lot on my plate and thus some anxiety is to be expected. Though my manic symptoms are still persistent they're drastically decreased and have a lot to do with my recently erratic sleep schedule.

I'm a playwright and used to believe that my swings helped my art, b*llshit, it's a conveniently romantic idea but none so practical notion. Stabilizing your swings is only going to make getting great grades easier. I found that when I was in college (and consistently overloading) I did best when I kept to a regimented schedule and avoided all nighters. I was self medicating with exercise and cautious, controlled choices.

The reason I decided to start on meds was because my productivity and creative projects were at a standstill; racked with anxiety and serial depression, my racing thoughts only made everything worse. I’ve been in psychotherapy for two years, which has helped, but I reached a breaking point a few months ago, and since starting meds have been better able to work. The idea of starting graduate school with fluctuating moods was terrifying, which I’m sure compounded the problem. The only semester of college I received bellow an A(-) was my last semester, when I was racked with anxiety about finding a job, and my girlfriend (who I thought was the love of my life) dumped me suddenly. I wasn’t able to put it all in perspective, nor focus on my classes as my manic thoughts sent my depressive feeling spiraling out of control

As per Lamictal’s side effects, I've only heard of concentration problems at much higher doses. My libido is at an all time high (which isn't a good thing, as I was sexually frustrated to begin with). I've heard about the sexual side effects of SSRI’s from my friends and family in both positive and negative terms. It's easier on men then women, as a prolonged journey to orgasm can make your typical guy feel like a sex God. For woman, by virtue of the fact that most men are clueless in bed (myself included); this side effect is more problematic.

If you already have an eating disorder, I'd suggest staying away from Depakote. I've heard of many people gaining weight from this drug. Even if the effects are positive, the anxiety over the weight gain (it seems in your case) will only compound the problem

I’m not familiar with Adderall so I can’t offer any advice.

I hope all of this was helpful to you, and that this process goes well. I just turned 25, I wish I had started to deal with these issues when it really got bad, my senior year of college. Best of luck

-andrew

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking, adderall, school, SSRIs » collegegal

Posted by MARTY on June 5, 2006, at 23:39:31

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking, adderall, school, SSRIs, posted by collegegal on June 5, 2006, at 10:23:26


Hi -

I'm taking 300mg of Lamictal and just by lowering the dose to 150 mg It was obvious, after only 2 days, that my memory and intellectual skills were very diminished on 300mg. If I was you I WOULD switch back to Effexor XR. Even knowing what it could temporary cost you..

And what if you could have an orgasm on effexor ? Maybe you could try adding something to your 'cocktail' that would help with the sexual side effects ?

You can find some info about those 'SSRI Sexual Side-effects Antidotes' on the web. Some of them should be OK with your eating disorder and comorbidities. Here's a list of agents who has been used in resolving the sexual side-effect of SRIs.. some of them may not be as good for anorsgamia as for other SSE like erection as an example :) or/and some of them doesn't help with anorgasmia at all. Sorry, I didn't have the time to check them ... BTW, be sure to bring a list of potential agent and some medical literature with you on your next Pdoc appointment: Most Pdoc doesn't have much knowledge in managing SSE with another agent.

So here is the list: Wellbutrin, mirtazapine, Cyproheptadine, BuSpar (Buspirone), amantadine, pemoline, d-amphetamine, Dextroamphetamine, Methyphenidate, yohimbine, Ginkgo biloba, Oriental ginseng, granisetron, nefazodone,pramipexole.

Some links:
http://sulcus.berkeley.edu/mcb/165_001/papers/manuscripts/_684.html
http://www.healthyplace.com/Communities/Depression/treatment/antidepressants/sexual_side_effects_2.asp


Feel free to babblemail me if you want to discuss about the different agents. Dont hesitate, I'm always ready to help a girl acheive orgasm :) lol

Marty


> OK, I am taking 200 mg of Lamictil a day. I was on antidepressants for a while, and this is all for an eating disorder that has some suspected comorbid disorders like a mood disorder and anxiety. I am pre-med and entering my senior year of college. My courses are extrememly difficult, and in the past, even in relatively difficult courses, I have never received below an A. I am afraid that the Lamactil is affecting me at a crucial time. Do any of you think that it would decrease academic performance? That scares me very much because GPA is important, and I have always wanted to go into medicine. I guess it is quite possible now that the eating disorder could indirecty ruin my life-long aspiration. I am very scared. Any thoughts? I suppose reverting back to SSRI's is a possibility, but I hate that idea because I absolutely CANNOT acheive an orgasm if I take more than 25 mg (of Effexor), which is a worthless dose. I am thinking of asking my psychiatrist on Thursday if she will consider starting me on adderall. Did that help you "detroitpistons?"
>
> Thanks everyone,
>
> Amanda

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking

Posted by leibniz on June 7, 2006, at 20:28:55

In reply to Lamictal and thinking, posted by detroitpistons on May 30, 2006, at 10:20:21

Hi--Try googling "Lamictal" and "Cognition" and you'll see a pretty favorable profile of it with respect to cognitive side effects, at least at lower doses (100mg).

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking » leibniz

Posted by Phillipa on June 7, 2006, at 20:44:44

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking, posted by leibniz on June 7, 2006, at 20:28:55

Thanks I'll do that . Put the two words together and google it that way? Love Phillipa

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking

Posted by leibniz on June 7, 2006, at 20:51:54

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking » leibniz, posted by Phillipa on June 7, 2006, at 20:44:44

Yep, just type lamictal and then thinking and you'll get a bunch of relevant results.

Best,

Matt

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking

Posted by detroitpistons on June 7, 2006, at 21:22:03

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking, posted by leibniz on June 7, 2006, at 20:28:55

Hi,

I don't doubt that Lamictal at a dose of 200 mg or lower does not have a significant effect on thinking. It was only after 200 mg that I started having these problems and it is very noticeable. I've never been like this and it's affecting me pretty significantly. I can't stand it. I can't figure out simple things at times, and my memory is bad to the extent that I embarass myself at work.


> Hi--Try googling "Lamictal" and "Cognition" and you'll see a pretty favorable profile of it with respect to cognitive side effects, at least at lower doses (100mg).

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking

Posted by helpme on June 30, 2006, at 17:45:25

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking, posted by detroitpistons on June 7, 2006, at 21:22:03


Yikes, lamictal made me stupid on just 150 mg. I lost creativity, I couldn't remember the simplest things, names were out of the question, I couldn't come up with words, etc. I couldn't solve problems, deal with my checkbook, follow complex conversations, or comprehend reading tougher than the tv guide. I seriously thought I was developing premature alzheimers or something. I am also suspicious it dulled me into being more depressed. Thank god I'm off it! I'm so much clearer.


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Re: Lamictal and thinking

Posted by Donna Louise on July 1, 2006, at 22:40:40

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking, posted by detroitpistons on June 7, 2006, at 21:22:03

From what I understand, if you problem is depression and anxiety, 200mg is as high as you need to go and that anything higher doesn't help. But if you are taking if for bipolar, then doses higher than 200 are warranted. I guess that is pretty much what SLS said....

donna

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking

Posted by octopusprime on July 7, 2006, at 16:28:33

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking, posted by Donna Louise on July 1, 2006, at 22:40:40

I guess I am both lucky and atypical, as I have been taking 300 mg lamictal for 4 months now and have had no negative cognitive effects. My work habits and concentration have improved (especially in the month of June). I am certainly not smarter than when I began, but I'm not dumber either.

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking » octopusprime

Posted by Donna Louise on July 7, 2006, at 23:21:16

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking, posted by octopusprime on July 7, 2006, at 16:28:33

> I guess I am both lucky and atypical, as I have been taking 300 mg lamictal for 4 months now and have had no negative cognitive effects. My work habits and concentration have improved (especially in the month of June). I am certainly not smarter than when I began, but I'm not dumber either.

Well this is certainly good news. If I end up needing to go higher than 200, I will know that it is good thing for regular unipolars too.
Thanks for that info.

donna

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking » Donna Louise

Posted by octopusprime on July 9, 2006, at 5:44:05

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking » octopusprime, posted by Donna Louise on July 7, 2006, at 23:21:16

hi donna, i'm being treated for bipolar 2 not unipolar depression

 

Re: Lamictal and thinking » SLS

Posted by fuchsia on July 9, 2006, at 7:34:05

In reply to Re: Lamictal and thinking, posted by SLS on May 30, 2006, at 10:37:21

Scott, I have increased my dose of Lamictal over the course of a year in order to chase the improvement. Now I am up to 400mgs and I don't think I even improved much after I passed 300.

The only cognitive impairment that I can detect is a marked loss of dream recall. The fact that this has happened makes me slightly concerned that there could be other cognitive impairment I'm not aware of.

Anyway, I'd like to go back down to about 200mgs but I don't see how I could do this as I think it would have to be done gradually and thus the rebound depression could be prolonged. Do you think this would be the case? I'm not sure what I should do as I'm already getting severe patches at the moment.

fuchsia


> I echo your experience. Lamictal 300mg made me very stupid and greatly impaired my memory. I found that these cognitive side effects are greatly reduced at lower dosages. I am currently taking 150mg. I think that some people get trapped into taking higher dosages of Lamictal, as it seems necessary to keep raising the dosage in order to produce a persistent improvement. Ultimately, the degree of improvement plateaus, even at the higher dosages. Then, when one tries to reduce the dosage, a rebound depression appears, convincing them that the higher dosage is necessary. I found that this rebound depression dissipated within a few days and that I felt just as well on 100mg as I did on 300mg.
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