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Posted by sdb on April 16, 2006, at 17:18:42
Recently, I joined a lecture from a psychiatrist at a university institute. I told him that a female neighbour took a benzodiazepine for sleep. She has lost three children and was sometimes seen drunk on the street. By a benzo treatment until know (years ago) by a general MD she has gained a very active life style, caring and looking for her older husband. Actually I did not have to ask any questions but I wanted to test this guy. His answer was a clear no. It would be a mistake and treatment should be ssri.
I ask me following questions:
How can he allege that? -He does not know anything about that woman.
Why does he know that a ssri would be a better treatment?
You can easily kill yourself with paracetamol available over the counter, an ssri can make you crazy but a benzo is absolutely wrong?
Risk from chronic alcohol abuse (without a concomitant hepatitis) to develop liver cirrhosis is 20% for female even higher. Its not entirely clear why.
Would this psychiatrist prefer to see this woman waiting for a transplant? Has this guy ever seen somebody with liver cirrhosis, ascites, and and and?
My opinion is: Benzodiazpines are succesfully used in case of traumatic disorders, anxiety disorders, muscle spasm, premed. before narcosis, seizures, brain tumors and more.
I think that psychiatrist should go back to kindergarten and all other people from that institute too. I would like to see them working in neurorehab. for at least five years where they will use this meds daily for people with spine problems or complications after braintumor surgery.
Is this guy (psychiatrist) able to interpret an ECG? Does he heard of QT-prolonging, torsade de pointes, broadening QRS?
Does he remember the case of fatal heart failure of a young girl with love problems nearby in the clinic? Was he even involved in the tricyclic poisoning?Facts were hidden, a father had to process to know the truth and now years later nothing is clear, nobody did something wrong and facts for important mortality statistics are kept hidden.
In my imagination I would like to prepare this guy both gyrus cinguly or the frontal lobe out of his skull or remove completely the brain after separating the dura subcranial, a smooth cut through the rhombencephalon or the upper spine and send this directly to the pathology research. Maybe there could be a possibility to find out where the location or the nerve functions of stupidity, irrationality and dullness belief (maybe even religious belief) is.
my grandfather took a benzodiazepine many years ago to treat grand mal seizures. After that he had muscle problems, after death grandmother agreed to give his brain for research. Grandmother is know ninety years old and has a brilliant brain.
My grandmother takes a benzo for sleep every night and stands up quickly in the morning (a sleep med can have life prolonging effects for older people). I like to see my grandmother being well and it has nothing to do that I actually dont like my fathers aristocratic non loving family.
~sdb
Posted by Phillipa on April 16, 2006, at 23:25:08
In reply to Short story - benzodiazepines, posted by sdb on April 16, 2006, at 17:18:42
Sad. But the pdocs all seem to think the answer is an SSRI. I feel that benzos if not abused work much better and it is my belief that anxiety preceeds depression. Treat the anxiety and it won't turn into depression. Love Phillipa
Posted by Caedmon on April 17, 2006, at 0:01:47
In reply to Re: Short story - benzodiazepines » sdb, posted by Phillipa on April 16, 2006, at 23:25:08
In med school and pharmacy school, the negatives of benzos are overplayed and the supposed efficacy of SRIs is also overplayed. It is the sad state of affairs. There was a time when an anxiety patient could get treatment, but thanks to benzophobia it is difficult.
- C
Posted by tizza on April 17, 2006, at 3:14:08
In reply to Re: Short story - benzodiazepines » sdb, posted by Phillipa on April 16, 2006, at 23:25:08
> Sad. But the pdocs all seem to think the answer is an SSRI. I feel that benzos if not abused work much better and it is my belief that anxiety preceeds depression. Treat the anxiety and it won't turn into depression. Love Phillipa
Phillipa, I coudn't have said it better hon. If I let my anxiety spiral out of control it turns into depression. Benzo's work great for me personally but SSRI's are horrendous and make me so much worse and I find SSRI's and SNRI's soooooooo much worse to discontinue than benzo's. Paul
Posted by sdb on April 18, 2006, at 17:45:08
In reply to Short story - benzodiazepines, posted by sdb on April 16, 2006, at 17:18:42
Thanks for the responses.
I did not want to do a plaidoyer for benzodiazepines. But I wanted to point out that it is probably better to see things more objectively, thus to see things how they are and that it could be not good acting only because of a belief and many principals.
~sdb
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