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Posted by ed_uk on April 4, 2006, at 16:18:33
In reply to I already messed up!, posted by Maxime on April 3, 2006, at 17:20:13
Hi Maxie
Have you recovered from the soy sauce yet? Hope so :)
Please be cautious with your Parnate dose. You still have some Prozac in your system. Side effects are likely if you increase the Parnate too fast.
Love
Ed xx
Posted by Phillipa on April 4, 2006, at 22:14:28
In reply to Re: I already messed up! » Maxime, posted by ed_uk on April 4, 2006, at 16:18:33
Maxie slow down give it time. Love Phillipa
Posted by naughtypuppy on April 5, 2006, at 10:05:27
In reply to Re: I already messed up!, posted by Phillipa on April 4, 2006, at 22:14:28
Ever notice that the inscription on a Parnate tab looks like a cyclops happy face from a distance?
Posted by tygereyes on April 5, 2006, at 10:30:03
In reply to I already messed up!, posted by Maxime on April 3, 2006, at 17:20:13
> Well I haven't been on Parnate since October so the food restrictions are not fresh in my mind. NOW they are.
>
> For supper I had half a frozen dinner of thai seitan. La,la,la, I'm trying to eat at least 200 calories for the day. BAM! It hits me, there must be soy sauce in this. Yup. So I didn't wait for a reaction and I took 50 mg of thorazine. Soy is very bad for me with Parnate. It's one of the few food rules I have to observe.
>
> So now I am going to remain more aware.
>
> MaximeWhy did your doc choose Thorazine w/ Parnate instead of Nifedipine?
Also - you mentioned eating 200 calories. You need to be very, very careful with anorexia nervosa and Parnate. It is no joke. Back in October, Parnate's appetite-suppressing & amphetamine-like effects triggered a relapse into anorexia for me. I lost weight very rapidly (& began abusing the drug - upping the dose when the "speed-like" effect wore off). One night, I developed very severe orthostatic hypotension with syncope. I could not stand up and, when I tried, had a seizure. My blood pressure was so low that I should not have been alive. The doctor told me that this was the direct result of taking Parnate and being at a very low weight & engaging in restricting behavior. Please be careful.
Posted by Maximus on April 5, 2006, at 12:32:14
In reply to Re: I already messed up!, posted by tygereyes on April 5, 2006, at 10:30:03
> Also - you mentioned eating 200 calories. You >need to be very, very careful with anorexia >nervosa and Parnate. It is no joke. Back in >October, Parnate's appetite-suppressing & >amphetamine-like effects triggered a relapse >into anorexia for me. I lost weight very rapidly >(& began abusing the drug - upping the dose when >the "speed-like" effect wore off). One night, I >developed very severe orthostatic hypotension >with syncope. I could not stand up and, when I >tried, had a seizure. My blood pressure was so >low that I should not have been alive. The >doctor told me that this was the direct result >of taking Parnate and being at a very low weight >& engaging in restricting behavior. Please be >careful.
Hum, i have now serious doubts about the skills and judgement of her psychiatrist. Our beloved friend has a serious eating disorder, OD once on Parnate and she's not compliant with her medication. I don't feel at ease with that situation. Am i alone?
Posted by Maxime on April 5, 2006, at 13:41:29
In reply to Re: I already messed up!, posted by naughtypuppy on April 5, 2006, at 10:05:27
> Ever notice that the inscription on a Parnate tab looks like a cyclops happy face from a distance?
LOL! Yes I did! That's why I call them my happy pills because they smile at me!
Maxime
Posted by Maxime on April 5, 2006, at 13:44:20
In reply to Re: I already messed up!, posted by tygereyes on April 5, 2006, at 10:30:03
I don't know why. Is Nifedipine better?
Oh boy, it's going hard with the eating. But I never lost weight on Parnate before.
Maxime
>
> Why did your doc choose Thorazine w/ Parnate instead of Nifedipine?
>
> Also - you mentioned eating 200 calories. You need to be very, very careful with anorexia nervosa and Parnate. It is no joke. Back in October, Parnate's appetite-suppressing & amphetamine-like effects triggered a relapse into anorexia for me. I lost weight very rapidly (& began abusing the drug - upping the dose when the "speed-like" effect wore off). One night, I developed very severe orthostatic hypotension with syncope. I could not stand up and, when I tried, had a seizure. My blood pressure was so low that I should not have been alive. The doctor told me that this was the direct result of taking Parnate and being at a very low weight & engaging in restricting behavior. Please be careful.
Posted by Maxime on April 5, 2006, at 13:46:42
In reply to Re: I already messed up! » tygereyes, posted by Maximus on April 5, 2006, at 12:32:14
Don't worry Maximus, I will be careful. Promise. Hey I managed to stop taking the ephedra.
You are very kind.
Maxime
>
> Hum, i have now serious doubts about the skills and judgement of her psychiatrist. Our beloved friend has a serious eating disorder, OD once on Parnate and she's not compliant with her medication. I don't feel at ease with that situation. Am i alone?
Posted by Maximus on April 5, 2006, at 14:21:40
In reply to Re: I already messed up!, posted by Maxime on April 5, 2006, at 13:46:42
> Don't worry Maximus, I will be careful. Promise. Hey I managed to stop taking the ephedra.
>
> You are very kind.
>
> MaximeOh! I'm sure you will. Don't give up...
Good day!
Max xxx
Posted by naughtypuppy on April 5, 2006, at 15:18:14
In reply to Re: I already messed up! » naughtypuppy, posted by Maxime on April 5, 2006, at 13:41:29
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Posted by maxime on April 6, 2006, at 13:01:44
In reply to My Parnate thread, posted by Maxime on April 3, 2006, at 13:29:20
Hi
Well I backed down to 10 mg today. I think I will stay at that for a few days before going up to 20 mg or 30 mg. I've waited this long, I might as stay safe.
Maxime
Posted by Caedmon on April 6, 2006, at 19:04:21
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by maxime on April 6, 2006, at 13:01:44
My doc is going to give me Thorazine for hypertensive crisis too Maxime. I have heard conflicting information on nifedipine v. chlorpromazine. I figure chlorpromazine is just fine though, so long as it works. It's not like it's something one takes on a regular basis...
- C
looking forward to my Parnate happy pills (next week!)
Posted by TylerJ on April 6, 2006, at 19:52:58
In reply to nifedipine or Thorazine (chlorpromazine), posted by Caedmon on April 6, 2006, at 19:04:21
> - C
> looking forward to my Parnate happy pills (next week!)C,
Welcome to the wonderful world of Parnate. I wish you good luck, I hope it helps you as much as it has me.Tyler :)
Posted by TylerJ on April 6, 2006, at 19:57:38
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by maxime on April 6, 2006, at 13:01:44
> Hi
>
> Well I backed down to 10 mg today. I think I will stay at that for a few days before going up to 20 mg or 30 mg. I've waited this long, I might as stay safe.
>
> MaximeGood plan Maxime. I feel bad that I kind of encouraged a more aggressive start, I'm sorry. Just take it slow and easy...it'll work. :)
Tyler
Posted by maxime on April 7, 2006, at 15:34:13
In reply to My Parnate thread, posted by Maxime on April 3, 2006, at 13:29:20
I took 20 mg today and felt no side effects. Already people are telling me that I sound more upbeat on the phone. That's a good sign.
I know it's only going to get better!
Maxime
Posted by TylerJ on April 7, 2006, at 18:03:17
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by maxime on April 7, 2006, at 15:34:13
> I took 20 mg today and felt no side effects. Already people are telling me that I sound more upbeat on the phone. That's a good sign.
>
> I know it's only going to get better!
>
> MaximeThat's a great sign! And, your attitude is awesome...you're right, it's only going to get better! :}
Tyler
Posted by JaclinHyde on April 8, 2006, at 18:38:11
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread » maxime, posted by TylerJ on April 7, 2006, at 18:03:17
You are going to be a great responder to the med, I can tell. A positive attitude will take you far and in a short time you will find that the Parnate will take over and your positive attitude will be permanent.
Keep us informed. You're helping a lot of people the more you post!
JH
Posted by Maxime on April 8, 2006, at 22:14:32
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by JaclinHyde on April 8, 2006, at 18:38:11
I am now at 30 mg. The only side effect I am experience, is clumsiness. This happened when I was the med before. I would go hiking and fall a lot. But I just have to be careful.
I haven't had anymore hypertensive experiences and I don't plan on having anymore.
I think the positive thing about Parnate is that it energises you. So your depression may be addressed yet, but you have more energy which can make you feel more positive and hopeful.
Maxime
Posted by Phillipa on April 8, 2006, at 23:33:52
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by Maxime on April 8, 2006, at 22:14:32
Maxie I was wondering why you hadn't posted yet, I'm so happy for you and the hiking that's wonderful. Love Jan
Posted by Maxime on April 9, 2006, at 10:55:23
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by Maxime on April 8, 2006, at 22:14:32
Hi
Because of the dizziness yesterday, I dropped my dosage back down to 20 mg, just to be on the safe side.I don't want to rush things.
I remember last year when I did hiking in Vermont and New York state, I wouldn't take my Parnate that day because it did make me a little dizzy and very clumsy.
I still feel the same energy though, which is good. Today I am going bike riding!
Maxime
Posted by ed_uk on April 9, 2006, at 12:41:42
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by Maxime on April 9, 2006, at 10:55:23
Hi Maxie
It's great that the Parnate is starting to work. The bike ride is a great idea :)
I'm glad you're being cautious too. I want you to be safe :)
Love
Eddy xxx
Posted by Caedmon on April 9, 2006, at 17:07:48
In reply to nifedipine or Thorazine (chlorpromazine), posted by Caedmon on April 6, 2006, at 19:04:21
> My doc is going to give me Thorazine for hypertensive crisis too Maxime. I have heard conflicting information on nifedipine v. chlorpromazine.
Talked to the pharmacist today and answered my own question. Nifedipine works well to lower blood pressure, but Thorazine works better to calm you down. It's all kind of a question of what the doc is more familiar with, usually, and they both work. Since I will likely be prone to a lot of anxiety if I have a hypertensive crisis, I'm fine with my pdoc prescribing Thorazine.
- C
Posted by Phillipa on April 9, 2006, at 21:05:44
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by Maxime on April 9, 2006, at 10:55:23
OOps I thought you went hiking yesterday sorry but wow bike riding. Love Jan
Posted by Maxime on April 10, 2006, at 17:13:15
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on April 9, 2006, at 21:05:44
Today I didn't take my Parnate. I am sick and I wanted to be able to take cold meds.
I feel awful.
Maxime
Posted by MidnightBlue on April 10, 2006, at 21:08:49
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by Maxime on April 10, 2006, at 17:13:15
Maxime,
Sweetie, you know you really shouldn't keep starting it and stopping it like that. Did you call your pdoc? I really think you should. You could use a saline nasal spray for your cold. You don't have to take a decongestant.
Sorry you feel so miserable!
Hugs,
MB
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