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Posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 17:41:41
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » ed_uk, posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 16:47:50
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> Hi Ed, how have you been?
> i was reading up on anafranil monday, it was something i was considering, i heard it is a classic ocd drug, but i was wondering about the fatigue issue, i am a lifter and runner, both help my depression, would that be of consequence.
>
> i am going to talk to my pdoc about either parnate, or anafranil, thank you Ed...john
------------------------No offense to Ed, He knows his stuff and I respect his advice and opinions. However, FOR ME Anafranil didn't touch my OCD, I tried it twice out of desperation once for 8 mos. the other for 6 mos. The only thing it did for me was give me a heck of a lot of side effects, including very dry mouth, weight gain, sedation,and difficulty having an orgasm. REMEMBER, just because it didn't help me doesn't mean it will not help you. Good luck.
Tyler
Posted by ed_uk on March 9, 2006, at 17:43:09
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » ed_uk, posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 16:47:50
Hi J
> i was wondering about the fatigue issue, i am a lifter and runner, both help my depression, would that be of consequence
Did imipramine (Tofranil) interfere with your ability to exercise?
Ed
Posted by jessers11581 on March 9, 2006, at 17:50:40
In reply to 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs...., posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 10:23:41
I've been on meds since 1997--started when I was seventeen. From first to last, these are the meds I've taken: Paxil, Xanax, Ambien, Trazodone, Zoloft, Celexa, Wellbutrin, Luvox, Lexapro, and Cymbalta.
Paxil: made me extremely sleepy and I gained weight, but I think it probably saved my life at the time; took it for 2 years
Trazodone: great for sleep, but didn't need it after being on Paxil for awhile
Celexa: worked great for about 3 years
Wellbutrin: made me absolutely insane; terrible experience
Zoloft/Luvox: didn't take for very long; don't remember much about them
Lexapro: made me nauseous and spacy (or at least I thought so at the time)
Cymbalta: seems to be okay so far...although I've noticed increased lethargy since increasing to 60 mg. I don't feel that I have as much brain fog with it as some of the SSRI's. I can't tell whether it's good for obsessive-compulsiveness or not...I still have my OCD moments.
Posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 19:12:58
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » john berk, posted by ed_uk on March 9, 2006, at 17:43:09
Hi Ed, no, as a matter of fact it didn't, i actually started my running program while on tofranil. are they basically the same in that respect...john
Posted by Phillipa on March 9, 2006, at 23:02:08
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » TylerJ, posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 16:44:03
John you too? An MAOI? Fondly, Phillipa ps I thought the prozac was working pretty good for you
Posted by john berk on March 10, 2006, at 8:11:44
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » john berk, posted by Phillipa on March 9, 2006, at 23:02:08
Hi Phillipa, how are you?
i haven't made a concrete descison yet, but i need all the great help i can get here on babble, going to the pdoc wednesday is like going into a "very short" battle, i want to be prepared, lol.
parnate and anafranil are 2 great options, i hope you are well.....john
Posted by TylerJ on March 10, 2006, at 10:12:16
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » john berk, posted by Phillipa on March 9, 2006, at 23:02:08
> John you too? An MAOI? Fondly, Phillipa ps I thought the prozac was working pretty good for you
Phillipa, Have you ever been on an MAOI? You seem to dislike MAOI's..Why?:) Tyler
Posted by CareBear04 on March 10, 2006, at 12:10:04
In reply to 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs...., posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 10:23:41
Here's my list of drugs I've taken in just the past three years:
Lexapro, Paxil, Effexor XR, WEllbutrin, Zoloft, REmeron, Lithium, Depakote, Neurontin, Lamictal, Trileptal, TOpamax, Keppra, Risperdal, Zyprexa, Abilify, Trilafon, Haldol, Seroquel, Atarax/Vistaril, Ativan, Klonopin, Xanax, Propranolol, Strattera, Provigil, Adderall, Concerta, Dexedrine, Ambien, Trazodone, SOnata, Resotirl, Halcion, and Lunesta.
Wow... at this point, I'm very deeply depressed. Does anyone have any suggestions for something I haven't tried or something I should try again?
CB
Posted by TylerJ on March 10, 2006, at 12:58:21
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » TylerJ, posted by CareBear04 on March 10, 2006, at 12:10:04
> Here's my list of drugs I've taken in just the past three years:
>
> Lexapro, Paxil, Effexor XR, WEllbutrin, Zoloft, REmeron, Lithium, Depakote, Neurontin, Lamictal, Trileptal, TOpamax, Keppra, Risperdal, Zyprexa, Abilify, Trilafon, Haldol, Seroquel, Atarax/Vistaril, Ativan, Klonopin, Xanax, Propranolol, Strattera, Provigil, Adderall, Concerta, Dexedrine, Ambien, Trazodone, SOnata, Resotirl, Halcion, and Lunesta.
>
> Wow... at this point, I'm very deeply depressed. Does anyone have any suggestions for something I haven't tried or something I should try again?
> CB
How about the MAOI's? Parnate, Nardil or EMSAM "The Patch."
Ty
Posted by CareBear04 on March 10, 2006, at 13:38:04
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » CareBear04, posted by TylerJ on March 10, 2006, at 12:58:21
thansk for the suggestion. my drs have never suggested MAOIs or even tricyclics, though I'd be willing to try them. I see my dr soon; maybe i'll ask, but i have a feeling there might be too many interactions since i'm on so many meds. thanks again,
CB
Posted by gibber on March 10, 2006, at 14:55:29
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » TylerJ, posted by CareBear04 on March 10, 2006, at 13:38:04
CareBear,
You said you aren't feeling well so why would you continue the meds you are on? There's a good chance MAOIs will conflict with your current regime so you'd have to let go of that combo. Give MAOIs a shot!
Posted by ed_uk on March 10, 2006, at 15:15:34
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » ed_uk, posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 19:12:58
Hi J
>as a matter of fact it didn't, i actually started my running program while on tofranil. are they basically the same in that respect...
Well that's a good sign. TCAs can affect heart rate and blood pressure. Are you still interested in clomipramine?
ed
Posted by ed_uk on March 10, 2006, at 15:17:22
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » TylerJ, posted by CareBear04 on March 10, 2006, at 13:38:04
Hi CB
Which med(s) helped the most? It sounds like you benefitted from 1mg Haldol.
Ed
Posted by john berk on March 10, 2006, at 16:28:11
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » john berk, posted by ed_uk on March 10, 2006, at 15:15:34
Hi Ed,
yes, i am going to definetly consider it, my blood pressure is excellent, last reading 110/80,
although my hear rate was a little high, caffiene induced i beleive when taken, my pdoc even once suggested adding 25-50 mgs. anafranil to my "zac", i feel better knowing i have so many options i haven' t tried out of just plain fear of side-effects, thanks...john
Posted by tizza on March 10, 2006, at 19:29:32
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » ed_uk, posted by john berk on March 10, 2006, at 16:28:11
well I'm only 12 years on the med-go-round.
tofranil, anafrinil, prothiedin, moclobomide, aropax(paxil), prozac, cipramil(celexa), luvox, effexor xr, zyprexa, seroquel, temazepam, rohypnol, mogadon, xanax, oxazepam, valium, clonazepam, sodium valproate (Epilim). I'm sure there is more but that's all I can recall at this point in time. Paul.
Posted by tizza on March 10, 2006, at 19:33:25
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs...., posted by tizza on March 10, 2006, at 19:29:32
> well I'm only 12 years on the med-go-round.
> tofranil, anafrinil, prothiedin, moclobomide, aropax(paxil), prozac, cipramil(celexa), luvox, effexor xr, zyprexa, seroquel, temazepam, rohypnol, mogadon, xanax, oxazepam, valium, clonazepam, sodium valproate (Epilim). I'm sure there is more but that's all I can recall at this point in time. Paul.Oh yeah, Stilnox(Ambien) and Imovane
Posted by sdb on March 10, 2006, at 19:55:03
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs...., posted by tizza on March 10, 2006, at 19:33:25
It's very interesting. Since we life in the time of SSRI's (maybe due to the "it just works" propaganda of pharmaceutical producers) the MAO's and some Benzo's are still very often mentioned.
~sdb
Posted by Phillipa on March 10, 2006, at 20:10:12
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » Phillipa, posted by TylerJ on March 10, 2006, at 10:12:16
Fear. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by yxibow on March 11, 2006, at 2:15:39
In reply to 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs...., posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 10:23:41
> This morning I was thinking of all the meds I've taken during my 25 years with this crappy disease. I'm sure I've forgotten a few, but here goes....
>
> Xanax, Klonopin, Serax, Buspar, Ativan, Lithium, Cytomel, Lamictal, Thyroid 4, Nuerontin, Geodon, Strattera, ambien, Lunesta, Benadryl, Anafrinil, Wellbutrin, Depakote, Trazodone, Effexor, Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Luvox, celexa, Lexapro, Remeron, Serzone, Cymbalta, Pamelor, Imipramine, Marplan, Nardil, Parnate, Mirapex, Lyrica, Elavil, and Loxapine. Whew!!!
>
> Of these 38 drugs only 8 of them actually worked for a period of time: Ativan, Lamictal, Remeron, Paxil, Prozac, Remeron, Mirapex, and of course my beloved Parnate! Unfortunately, only %20 of these drugs worked for me. My Pdoc says I'm *Treatment Resistant* Hell, aren't we all!!
>
> Please add your list and comments if you want to.
> TylerI'm sure you have a busy life and things to do, but a little while back sdb posted a Grand Rounds about treatment resistant depression at
http://psychiatry.uchicago.edu/grounds/011015/
It offers some fascinating insight into what truly may work for patients
http://www.edc.gsph.pitt.edu/stard/
is the result of this enormous study called Star*D
and there are numerous links about it. I know it doesn't add to additional drug information for you but it may provide some insight into treatment resistant depression.
Posted by ed_uk on March 11, 2006, at 13:25:00
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs...., posted by tizza on March 10, 2006, at 19:33:25
Hi P
Did you find flunitrazepam (Rohypnol) similar to nitrazepam (Mogadon)?
Ed
Posted by tizza on March 11, 2006, at 18:01:30
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » tizza, posted by ed_uk on March 11, 2006, at 13:25:00
> Hi P
>
> Did you find flunitrazepam (Rohypnol) similar to nitrazepam (Mogadon)?
>
> EdYes it is but it is stronger and works faster, it's still prescribed here but it's literally impossible to get a script for it these days and it can give you terrible retrograde amnesia, for example, sometimes you don't remember going to bed. Paul
Posted by TylerJ on March 11, 2006, at 21:07:44
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » Phillipa, posted by TylerJ on March 10, 2006, at 10:12:16
> > John you too? An MAOI? Fondly, Phillipa ps I thought the prozac was working pretty good for you
>
>
> Phillipa, Have you ever been on an MAOI? You seem to dislike MAOI's..Why?
>
> :) Tyler
I can definitely understand, 15 years my pdoc wanted me to try Nardil and I said NO THANK YOU!
I was scared to death of MAOI's. Everyone needs to take something they are comfortable with. By the way, thank you for being so supportive and positive to all of us here at psycho-babble.You are very kind and we need more people like you around here. :)Sincerely,
Tyler
Posted by Phillipa on March 11, 2006, at 21:21:19
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » TylerJ, posted by TylerJ on March 11, 2006, at 21:07:44
Tyler for the same reason as you terrified. Maybe this patch will change my mind as the thought that I can take it off would make a difference and I don't have to get it out of my sytem. Like I said I couldn't take the pill form of hormone replacement but could use the cream. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by TylerJ on March 12, 2006, at 9:34:31
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » TylerJ, posted by Phillipa on March 11, 2006, at 21:21:19
Cool Phillipia- sounds like a great idea!
Tyler :)
Posted by ed_uk on March 12, 2006, at 9:54:43
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » ed_uk, posted by tizza on March 11, 2006, at 18:01:30
Hi P
>stronger.....amnesia
I think it's because recommended dose is too high. If you took a really high dose of nitrazepam it would have the same effect!
Regards
Ed
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