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Posted by mike99 on January 26, 2006, at 17:49:23
Has anyone who is stimulant sensitive (POUNDING, racing heart, high blood pressure) been able to tolerate Provigil?I know it is has less cardiovascular activation than stimulants, but I'm still apprehensive about trying it.
Posted by shasling on January 26, 2006, at 18:21:42
In reply to Stim sensitive...Provigil??, posted by mike99 on January 26, 2006, at 17:49:23
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> Has anyone who is stimulant sensitive (POUNDING, racing heart, high blood pressure) been able to tolerate Provigil?
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> I know it is has less cardiovascular activation than stimulants, but I'm still apprehensive about trying it.I am very stim sensitive as well, tho less physically, more neurologically. First time I took it, I took one as prescribed and I was massively wired. I finally got to where I'd bite off like 1/8 of it and do okay with that. Worth trying, but start really really small, maybe.
Good luck.
Posted by RobertDavid on January 26, 2006, at 21:43:45
In reply to Re: Stim sensitive...Provigil?? » mike99, posted by shasling on January 26, 2006, at 18:21:42
I too am can barely handle stimulants. Even a cup off coffee sends me flying. I found that provigil was very suttle and smooth, but I only needed between 25 and 50mgs to do the job. Much less than is usually perscribed. If you try it, start low. You'll know day 1 how well you like it. I now take it on an as needed basis. Good luck
Posted by mike99 on January 27, 2006, at 0:17:51
In reply to Re: Stim sensitive...Provigil?? » mike99, posted by shasling on January 26, 2006, at 18:21:42
Thanks for the info...If I do decide to give it a shot I'll no doubt be start w/ a miniscule dose.
The sense I get is it works well for motivation and concentration...something like coffee... but would you say it has calming and attention-prolonging benefits?
Posted by RobertDavid on January 27, 2006, at 0:23:34
In reply to Re: Stim sensitive...Provigil??, posted by mike99 on January 27, 2006, at 0:17:51
I wouldn't say it's calming, but it doesn't make me jittery like coffee does. It does help me with concentration and energy. I get lots done when I take it. I took as much as 100mgs one day and cleaned the house, got lots done. But for day to day use 25 to 50mgs just gives me a bit of a boost without being edgy....
Posted by mike99 on January 27, 2006, at 16:35:20
In reply to Re: Stim sensitive...Provigil??, posted by RobertDavid on January 27, 2006, at 0:23:34
Thanks for the info. When you say it helps with "concentration and energy"--would you say that this also means it improves your attention span and/or decreases distractability?
> I wouldn't say it's calming, but it doesn't make me jittery like coffee does. It does help me with concentration and energy. I get lots done when I take it. I took as much as 100mgs one day and cleaned the house, got lots done. But for day to day use 25 to 50mgs just gives me a bit of a boost without being edgy....
Posted by RobertDavid on January 27, 2006, at 16:45:03
In reply to Re: Stim sensitive...Provigil??-RobertDavid, posted by mike99 on January 27, 2006, at 16:35:20
The best way I can describe it is that when reading, I read faster and have better concentration. I am more task driven, things get done. I'm on the move, but not hyper. My mind seems to be quicker, more alert. Seems to slightly improve mood, perhaps that's because I'm so busy doing and not just thinking. I hope that helps. I'm sure it's different for everyone. Good luck.
Posted by alohashirt on January 27, 2006, at 21:02:37
In reply to Re: Stim sensitive...Provigil??-RobertDavid, posted by mike99 on January 27, 2006, at 16:35:20
600mg had no noticable effect on me.
> Thanks for the info. When you say it helps with "concentration and energy"--would you say that this also means it improves your attention span and/or decreases distractability?
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> > I wouldn't say it's calming, but it doesn't make me jittery like coffee does. It does help me with concentration and energy. I get lots done when I take it. I took as much as 100mgs one day and cleaned the house, got lots done. But for day to day use 25 to 50mgs just gives me a bit of a boost without being edgy....
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Posted by mike99 on January 28, 2006, at 9:23:23
In reply to Re: Stim sensitive...Provigil??-RobertDavid, posted by alohashirt on January 27, 2006, at 21:02:37
Posted by Cairo on January 28, 2006, at 14:50:48
In reply to Stim sensitive...Provigil??, posted by mike99 on January 26, 2006, at 17:49:23
I can't even use decaf coffee. Provigil (50mg) made me too nervous.
However, my daughter used adjunct Provigil (100mg) with Lexapro. It was prosocial and helped alertness, but not attention as such. Other than a day or two of headaches, it didn't seem to cause any other side effects at that dose. Raising it to 150mg, made her too wired. Correct dosing is important it seems.
Cairo
Posted by mike99 on January 28, 2006, at 16:01:16
In reply to Re: Stim sensitive...Provigil??, posted by Cairo on January 28, 2006, at 14:50:48
"Prosocial" would definitely be a welcomed effect, although inattention is my primary issue.
I've heard a lot that it increases alertness more than attention...though some people report it does help attention span.I have no problem with coffee, but am apprehensive about trying Provigil because even a tiny dose (5 mg) of amphetamine sends my heart/blood pressure soaring (and I mean go to the ER soaring).
My main attraction to Provigil is its relative lack of the cardiovascular side effects associated with stimulants. I'd be grateful for even modest symptom improvement with Provigil, but am just afraid it might send my heart into overdrive.
Posted by Paulbwell on January 28, 2006, at 18:58:22
In reply to Re: Stim sensitive...Provigil??, posted by mike99 on January 28, 2006, at 16:01:16
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> "Prosocial" would definitely be a welcomed effect, although inattention is my primary issue.
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> I've heard a lot that it increases alertness more than attention...though some people report it does help attention span.
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> I have no problem with coffee, but am apprehensive about trying Provigil because even a tiny dose (5 mg) of amphetamine sends my heart/blood pressure soaring (and I mean go to the ER soaring).
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> My main attraction to Provigil is its relative lack of the cardiovascular side effects associated with stimulants. I'd be grateful for even modest symptom improvement with Provigil, but am just afraid it might send my heart into overdrive.Prosocial indeed, Ritalin is an antisocial pill, as opposed (to what i'v read) compared to Dex can anyone who has tried both make a comparison-PLEASE?
Cheers
Posted by mike99 on January 29, 2006, at 9:23:56
In reply to Re: Stim sensitive...Provigil?? » mike99, posted by Paulbwell on January 28, 2006, at 18:58:22
I found Ritalin, Dex and Adderall all to have "pro-social" effects on me (I only took Dex and Adderall for a few days total, however).
> > "Prosocial" would definitely be a welcomed effect, although inattention is my primary issue.
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> > I've heard a lot that it increases alertness more than attention...though some people report it does help attention span.
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> > I have no problem with coffee, but am apprehensive about trying Provigil because even a tiny dose (5 mg) of amphetamine sends my heart/blood pressure soaring (and I mean go to the ER soaring).
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> > My main attraction to Provigil is its relative lack of the cardiovascular side effects associated with stimulants. I'd be grateful for even modest symptom improvement with Provigil, but am just afraid it might send my heart into overdrive.
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> Prosocial indeed, Ritalin is an antisocial pill, as opposed (to what i'v read) compared to Dex can anyone who has tried both make a comparison-PLEASE?
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> Cheers
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