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Posted by john berk on August 11, 2005, at 21:03:07
Hi everyone,
hope you are all having a good evening, [it's evening here in philadelphia}. i have been taking prozac for 3 years, with pretty decent results, at one point i actually thought i was cured, lol, <groan< but that lasted 3 month's!but lately when i take my "zac" i feel tired by noon, and them by 4 p.m. i am fairly depressed!! yesterday it was bad, and i decided to skip a dose this morning, and today i felt great, walked 5 miles even!!
i am so scared to be without meds, but i am really worried prozac may be beginning to "backfire" so to speak! i took 1 trytophan capsule about an hour ago, maybe my serotonin has become depleted?? any thoughts or expierences would be much appreciated, thanks...john
Posted by rjlockhart98 on August 11, 2005, at 21:23:20
In reply to can prozac make you more depressed?, posted by john berk on August 11, 2005, at 21:03:07
This is a simple issue.
You may have too much serotonin and not enough dopamine.
Have you considered Wellbutrin? it is a dopamine reptake inhibitor, instead of Serotonin like Prozac
I take Prozac 20mg.
I have been on Wellbutrin before 450mg XL. But i stopped it becuase i took too much of it and had a sieizure.
Wellbutrin makes things more intresting similar to amphetamine.
Posted by john berk on August 11, 2005, at 21:29:08
In reply to Re: can prozac make you more depressed?, posted by rjlockhart98 on August 11, 2005, at 21:23:20
thanks matt!! i have been giving that alot of thought!!
i agree with what you said, i may be on serotonin overload, and i actually was thinking about wellbutrin!! i think i do need a dopamine boast, i used to have great energy, [i was a runner] but since prozac, [except the first 3 weeks when it energized me] i have felt lethargic, and now down!! i see my pdoc in 10 days, i'll keep you posted...john
Posted by Jakeman on August 11, 2005, at 22:06:28
In reply to Re: can prozac make you more depressed? » rjlockhart98, posted by john berk on August 11, 2005, at 21:29:08
If your're not doing this already, add folic acid and B-12. According to some studies (that I don't have at hand) these vitamins can offset prozac poop-out.
~warm regard, Jake
Posted by john berk on August 12, 2005, at 9:09:39
In reply to Re: can prozac make you more depressed?, posted by Jakeman on August 11, 2005, at 22:06:28
Hi thanks,
i'm headed out today to the health food store, i need more whey protein, [raises tryptophan levels somewhat, great for workouts] and i am definetly going to get the b-12 sublingual tablets, i haven't taken them in quite awhile!! i can't take extra folic acid because i was told it has an negative effect on under-methylated ocd, peeps' like myself!! thanks again jakeman!!
Posted by Jakeman on August 15, 2005, at 22:51:00
In reply to Re: can prozac make you more depressed? » Jakeman, posted by john berk on August 12, 2005, at 9:09:39
> Hi thanks,
> i'm headed out today to the health food store, i need more whey protein, [raises tryptophan levels somewhat, great for workouts] and i am definetly going to get the b-12 sublingual tablets, i haven't taken them in quite awhile!! i can't take extra folic acid because i was told it has an negative effect on under-methylated ocd, peeps' like myself!! thanks again jakeman!!I've read about folic acid being contraindicated for some. I guess I wonder how does one determine that? Is there a way to determine if your're under-methylated? Maybe I'm one of those....
warm regards ~Jake
Posted by john berk on August 16, 2005, at 8:28:08
In reply to Re: can prozac make you more depressed? » john berk, posted by Jakeman on August 15, 2005, at 22:51:00
Hi!! it is beleived by some researchers that almost all of ocd patients are under-methylated.
i really don't know the exact science of determining this, but i have corresponded with a natural healer, [she is an M.D.] and she believes undermethylated people respond better to B12, magnesium, sam-e, and zinc!! she feels one way to recognize undermethylazation is whether or not you have a response to prozac, which i did right away. over-methylated people are presumably intolerate of ssri's!! i don't know if her theories are completley sound,[i have read same at another site] but she had ocd, and has found almost complete relief, so i have been trying to folow some of her guidelines!! oh, btw, jakeman, i did get the B12, i do feel added energy, thanks so much for the tip!! peace...john
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