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Posted by linkadge on June 22, 2005, at 20:39:15
Bascally from age 16.5 - 22.5 I have been on SSRI's which have effectivly wiped out much developement of sexual interest. Before I started them, there was a little in that regard but not much.
I think I have missed my chance. No seriously folks, did I screw up hormonal levels during this time and destine myself to manditory celabacy ??
Thanks
Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on June 22, 2005, at 21:47:34
In reply to Can SSRI anorgazmia mess up hormones ??, posted by linkadge on June 22, 2005, at 20:39:15
Link I doubt it. Once you're off SSRI's it should come back. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Jazzed on June 22, 2005, at 22:53:22
In reply to Can SSRI anorgazmia mess up hormones ??, posted by linkadge on June 22, 2005, at 20:39:15
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> I think I have missed my chance. No seriously folks, did I screw up hormonal levels during this time and destine myself to manditory celabacy ??
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Hey Linkadge,Have you tried Damiana and Maca? I use them, and they work well for me.
Jazzy
Posted by Declan on June 23, 2005, at 0:17:10
In reply to Re: Can SSRI anorgazmia mess up hormones ?? » linkadge, posted by Jazzed on June 22, 2005, at 22:53:22
Hey Jazzed
Did you find Maca stimulating? It made it difficult for me to sleep properly, I thought, although I never worked out why I couldn't. Hasn't Maca got a wonderful taste?
Declan
Posted by enjay on June 23, 2005, at 3:45:17
In reply to Re: Can SSRI anorgazmia mess up hormones ??, posted by Declan on June 23, 2005, at 0:17:10
I'm following this thread as am on Celexa currently and are having to put up with the usual sexual s/effects.
With Damiana and Maca can you take them on an as needed basis ?
Are the dopaminergic drugs worth a go ? And can you take them as needed ?
Thanks in advance for any advice.regards
Enjay
Posted by linkadge on June 23, 2005, at 6:34:18
In reply to Re: Can SSRI anorgazmia mess up hormones ??, posted by enjay on June 23, 2005, at 3:45:17
I guess if I don't know what I'm missing there isn't much loss.
Linkadge
Posted by Jazzed on June 23, 2005, at 9:28:15
In reply to Re: Can SSRI anorgazmia mess up hormones ??, posted by linkadge on June 23, 2005, at 6:34:18
> I guess if I don't know what I'm missing there isn't much loss.
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> LinkadgeAwwww, c'mon Link, sex can be so awesome! For a long time I didn't have much sex drive, and now I just can't get enough. I LOVE sex! And I wish I'd been able to feel this way at a younger age. At least give the Damiana a try, and see if it "perks" you up!
Jazzy
Posted by mworkman on June 23, 2005, at 12:00:16
In reply to Re: Can SSRI anorgazmia mess up hormones ?? » linkadge, posted by Jazzed on June 23, 2005, at 9:28:15
I think ssri lower testosteron(sp) indirectly. It should go back to normal once you are off.
Posted by ed_uk on June 23, 2005, at 14:24:03
In reply to Can SSRI anorgazmia mess up hormones ??, posted by linkadge on June 22, 2005, at 20:39:15
>No seriously folks, did I screw up hormonal levels during this time and destine myself to manditory celabacy ??
No, I don't think so. I think you'll be able to 'develop' your libido if you work on it a bit ;-)
I've been on SSRIs since I was about 14. When I d/c an SSRI, my libido comes back slowly........very slowly. I'm so used to not thinking about sex it doesn't really cross my mind. Now that you're off SSRIs, I think your libido will reappear gradually. Perhaps you should *deliberately* think about sex and you might soon find that you're enjoying it :-)
~Ed
Posted by linkadge on June 23, 2005, at 15:39:35
In reply to Re: Can SSRI anorgazmia mess up hormones ?? » linkadge, posted by ed_uk on June 23, 2005, at 14:24:03
I've just been thinking a lot about how the medications might alter vital neural processes. I mean if the part of my brain that processes sex has been completely shut off, then what other parts of my brain have been shut off over the years?
Linkadge
Posted by ed_uk on June 23, 2005, at 17:44:35
In reply to Re: Can SSRI anorgazmia mess up hormones ??, posted by linkadge on June 23, 2005, at 15:39:35
Hi Link,
>I mean if the part of my brain that processes sex has been completely shut off........
.......but don't you think it was only shut down temporarily?
~Ed
Posted by linkadge on June 23, 2005, at 20:10:10
In reply to Re: Can SSRI anorgazmia mess up hormones ?? » linkadge, posted by ed_uk on June 23, 2005, at 17:44:35
I hope so, time will tell.
Linkadge
Posted by Maximus on June 24, 2005, at 21:07:06
In reply to Can SSRI anorgazmia mess up hormones ??, posted by linkadge on June 22, 2005, at 20:39:15
SSRIs decrease testosterone level, both in female and male body. After discontinuation of SSRIs, the T level never come back to its "normal" state. Liver enzymes and dopamine pathway (frontal cortex) are involved in this dysregulation; and probably a lot more things too.
Posted by ed_uk on June 24, 2005, at 21:15:56
In reply to Re: Yes! » linkadge, posted by Maximus on June 24, 2005, at 21:07:06
Hi Max :-)
>SSRIs decrease testosterone level, both in female and male body.
Do you know of a study which shows this? I had a quick look but I couldn't find one.
Thank you,
~Ed
Posted by Maximus on June 24, 2005, at 21:50:32
In reply to Re: Yes! » Maximus, posted by ed_uk on June 24, 2005, at 21:15:56
> Do you know of a study which shows this? I had a quick look but I couldn't find one.
Hi Ed,
http://www.mhsanctuary.com/rx/testos.htm
http://www.terabytetriangle.com/index.php/id=5&article_ID=58.
http://www.preskorn.com/books/ssri_s7.html#p159indirectly
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/482059_15
And of course search on "newsnet", Google -> news. There is a lot of "real" cases.
Posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 0:10:50
In reply to Re: Yes! » linkadge, posted by Maximus on June 24, 2005, at 21:07:06
> SSRIs decrease testosterone level, both in female and male body. After discontinuation of SSRIs, the T level never come back to its "normal" state. Liver enzymes and dopamine pathway (frontal cortex) are involved in this dysregulation; and probably a lot more things too.
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Maximus,Do you have any links for the dopamine pathway disruption? Thanks.
N
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 25, 2005, at 0:45:28
In reply to Re: Can SSRI anorgazmia mess up hormones ??, posted by Declan on June 23, 2005, at 0:17:10
> Hey Jazzed
> Did you find Maca stimulating? It made it difficult for me to sleep properly, I thought, although I never worked out why I couldn't. Hasn't Maca got a wonderful taste?
> DeclanSorry to interrupt, but I'd like to redirect follow-ups regarding Maca to Psycho-Babble Alternative. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20050612/msgs/518487.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Jazzed on June 25, 2005, at 7:20:18
In reply to Redirect: Maca, posted by Dr. Bob on June 25, 2005, at 0:45:28
Posted by Maximus on June 25, 2005, at 9:58:48
In reply to Re: Yes!, posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 0:10:50
> > SSRIs decrease testosterone level, both in female and male body. After discontinuation of SSRIs, the T level never come back to its "normal" state. Liver enzymes and dopamine pathway (frontal cortex) are involved in this dysregulation; and probably a lot more things too.
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> Maximus,
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> Do you have any links for the dopamine pathway disruption? Thanks.Sorry, i just came back yesterday from a long trip and i'm a little bit tired/lazy. But search on Google and you will find a lot of research done on this. SSRIs should be taken very briefly. Period.
Bye.
Posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 14:08:19
In reply to Re: Yes! » Nezirov, posted by Maximus on June 25, 2005, at 9:58:48
Yes, I agree. If I had only taken celexa for a few months rather than two years, I think I would have been OK.
N
Posted by linkadge on June 25, 2005, at 18:10:07
In reply to Re: Yes!, posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 14:08:19
Yeah, well I'd taken it for more like 4 years. Even less hope for me.
Linkadge
Posted by ed_uk on June 25, 2005, at 20:00:09
In reply to Re: Yes! » ed_uk, posted by Maximus on June 24, 2005, at 21:50:32
Hi Max,
Thank you, that was very interesting :-)
~Ed
Posted by ed_uk on June 25, 2005, at 20:06:09
In reply to Re: Yes!, posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 14:08:19
>Yes, I agree. If I had only taken celexa for a few months rather than two years, I think I would have been OK.
Unfortunately, short-term treatment with SSRIs is not an option for everyone. SSRIs are virtually the only consistently effective drugs for OCD. I'll probably need to take an SSRI for decades. As much as sexual dysfunction is unpleasant, it's trivial compared with severe OCD - if you knew what it was like to suffer 12 hours of obsessions/compulsions per day you'd know what I mean.
~Ed
Posted by ed_uk on June 25, 2005, at 20:11:31
In reply to Re: Yes!, posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 14:08:19
Just to clarify, I certainly don't think sexual dysfuntion is trivial.......but it *is* trivial *compared* to severe obsessive-compulsive disorder.
~Ed
Posted by ed_uk on June 25, 2005, at 20:18:53
In reply to Re: Yes!, posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 14:08:19
PS. I don't like taking Celexa 60mg. It makes me tired and lazy. I have virtually no libido. I also sweat constantly. Maybe I should have my testosterone level measured.
~Ed
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