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Posted by Tepiaca on May 15, 2005, at 22:44:01
After 14 days on 50mg of Seroquel and 60mg of Nardil my Social Fobia has been controled like never before. It is amazing, I feel so easy around people, I only have little fear that is not a big problem for me to handle. I feel more confident when talking, I can look people eyes, I am doing things that I haven´t done in years !. For example, this old man at the bus, he nevers give me my 30 cents of change back when I pay the ticket bus, I always wanted to to tell him that the ticket bus is not 3 pesos but 2.70 but my fear did not allowed me to complain and to ask him for my 30 cents of change, I rather stayed quiet and go slowly to take my sit feeling that all the bus is staring at me. But last friday It was different, for the first time I said to this old grumpy man: ey! I want my change the ticket is 2.70 and not 3. Madly the old man gave me my change and I did not care if he was mad at me, wow !! I was so confident , I was ready to tell him something more if he would not have gave me my change. This is cool !!Now the bad part . I am having 2 side effects that are not easy to me to handle. First one: I feel unmotivated, I dont have energy. I can talk with people now, but I really dont want to do it, it is no necessary for me. Im sure Seroquel is causing this. the second side effect: Sexual Disfunction, oh my god I never have had this level of Sexual disfunction I have 0% libido, I cant have erections for more than 1 minute and of course anorgasmia. I really dont like this. It is ironic.. now that I can talk to girls , I cant have sex with them.
Guys help me, tell me what do you think?
This combination of Nardil and Seroquel is very good but at the same time is very bad.
I dont know what to do. No ideas in my brain.
Decreasing Seroquel would not let me sleep like now and the fear would return. Increasing Nardil will make have even worst sexual side effectsPsycobabblers, I really need your help in this moment !!!!
Tep
Posted by Declan on May 15, 2005, at 23:44:48
In reply to NARDIL-SEROQUEL, too good and too bad to be true, posted by Tepiaca on May 15, 2005, at 22:44:53
I havn't taken either of these drugs. But say you took a little less Nardil, could you then drop the Seroquel back a bit too? Nardil sounds so good except for the SE. If I took Nardil and it worked a bit, with few SE, I would be more than happy.
Declan
Posted by iforgotmypassword on May 16, 2005, at 0:16:56
In reply to Re: NARDIL-SEROQUEL, too good and too bad to be true, posted by Declan on May 15, 2005, at 23:44:48
i dont know the price of viagra or any of the other substitutes, but ive heard of people using ginkgo biloba for erectile dysfunction... ? anyone confirm?
Posted by ixus on May 16, 2005, at 3:37:15
In reply to NARDIL-SEROQUEL, too good and too bad to be true, posted by Tepiaca on May 15, 2005, at 22:44:01
>
> After 14 days on 50mg of Seroquel and 60mg of Nardil my Social Fobia has been controled like never before. It is amazing, I feel so easy around people, I only have little fear that is not a big problem for me to handle. I feel more confident when talking, I can look people eyes, I am doing things that I haven´t done in years !. For example, this old man at the bus, he nevers give me my 30 cents of change back when I pay the ticket bus, I always wanted to to tell him that the ticket bus is not 3 pesos but 2.70 but my fear did not allowed me to complain and to ask him for my 30 cents of change, I rather stayed quiet and go slowly to take my sit feeling that all the bus is staring at me. But last friday It was different, for the first time I said to this old grumpy man: ey! I want my change the ticket is 2.70 and not 3. Madly the old man gave me my change and I did not care if he was mad at me, wow !! I was so confident , I was ready to tell him something more if he would not have gave me my change. This is cool !!
>
> Now the bad part . I am having 2 side effects that are not easy to me to handle. First one: I feel unmotivated, I dont have energy. I can talk with people now, but I really dont want to do it, it is no necessary for me. Im sure Seroquel is causing this. the second side effect: Sexual Disfunction, oh my god I never have had this level of Sexual disfunction I have 0% libido, I cant have erections for more than 1 minute and of course anorgasmia. I really dont like this. It is ironic.. now that I can talk to girls , I cant have sex with them.
>
> Guys help me, tell me what do you think?
>
> This combination of Nardil and Seroquel is very good but at the same time is very bad.
> I dont know what to do. No ideas in my brain.
> Decreasing Seroquel would not let me sleep like now and the fear would return. Increasing Nardil will make have even worst sexual side effects
>
> Psycobabblers, I really need your help in this moment !!!!
>
> TepHi Tep,
Maybe you need to replace seroquel by benzo? Do you live in Argentina? I am asking because I know that Parnate is available in Argentina, not Naridil.
/ixus
Posted by ed_uk on May 16, 2005, at 10:43:11
In reply to NARDIL-SEROQUEL, too good and too bad to be true, posted by Tepiaca on May 15, 2005, at 22:44:01
Hi Tep!
I'm glad you're anxiety is under control :-D
Greetings!
Ed.
Posted by Pelequin on May 16, 2005, at 15:56:17
In reply to NARDIL-SEROQUEL, too good and too bad to be true, posted by Tepiaca on May 15, 2005, at 22:44:01
>
> After 14 days on 50mg of Seroquel and 60mg of Nardil my Social Fobia has been controled like never before. It is amazing, I feel so easy around people, I only have little fear that is not a big problem for me to handle. I feel more confident when talking, I can look people eyes, I am doing things that I haven´t done in years !. For example, this old man at the bus, he nevers give me my 30 cents of change back when I pay the ticket bus, I always wanted to to tell him that the ticket bus is not 3 pesos but 2.70 but my fear did not allowed me to complain and to ask him for my 30 cents of change, I rather stayed quiet and go slowly to take my sit feeling that all the bus is staring at me. But last friday It was different, for the first time I said to this old grumpy man: ey! I want my change the ticket is 2.70 and not 3. Madly the old man gave me my change and I did not care if he was mad at me, wow !! I was so confident , I was ready to tell him something more if he would not have gave me my change. This is cool !!
>
> Now the bad part . I am having 2 side effects that are not easy to me to handle. First one: I feel unmotivated, I dont have energy. I can talk with people now, but I really dont want to do it, it is no necessary for me. Im sure Seroquel is causing this. the second side effect: Sexual Disfunction, oh my god I never have had this level of Sexual disfunction I have 0% libido, I cant have erections for more than 1 minute and of course anorgasmia. I really dont like this. It is ironic.. now that I can talk to girls , I cant have sex with them.
>
> Guys help me, tell me what do you think?
>
> This combination of Nardil and Seroquel is very good but at the same time is very bad.
> I dont know what to do. No ideas in my brain.
> Decreasing Seroquel would not let me sleep like now and the fear would return. Increasing Nardil will make have even worst sexual side effects
>
> Psycobabblers, I really need your help in this moment !!!!
>
> TepYeah I would recommend adding a stimulant to help with the lack of motivation problem, but most (maybe all) can't be taken with a MAOI.
It's quite a pity, because stimulants tend to aggravate anxiety in people with social anxiety, but they amplify energy and motivation like nothing else. It would be nice to pop Nardil in there and have all problems solved. Oh well.
Posted by KaraS on May 16, 2005, at 20:16:04
In reply to NARDIL-SEROQUEL, too good and too bad to be true, posted by Tepiaca on May 15, 2005, at 22:44:01
>
> After 14 days on 50mg of Seroquel and 60mg of Nardil my Social Fobia has been controled like never before. It is amazing, I feel so easy around people, I only have little fear that is not a big problem for me to handle. I feel more confident when talking, I can look people eyes, I am doing things that I haven´t done in years !. For example, this old man at the bus, he nevers give me my 30 cents of change back when I pay the ticket bus, I always wanted to to tell him that the ticket bus is not 3 pesos but 2.70 but my fear did not allowed me to complain and to ask him for my 30 cents of change, I rather stayed quiet and go slowly to take my sit feeling that all the bus is staring at me. But last friday It was different, for the first time I said to this old grumpy man: ey! I want my change the ticket is 2.70 and not 3. Madly the old man gave me my change and I did not care if he was mad at me, wow !! I was so confident , I was ready to tell him something more if he would not have gave me my change. This is cool !!
>
> Now the bad part . I am having 2 side effects that are not easy to me to handle. First one: I feel unmotivated, I dont have energy. I can talk with people now, but I really dont want to do it, it is no necessary for me. Im sure Seroquel is causing this. the second side effect: Sexual Disfunction, oh my god I never have had this level of Sexual disfunction I have 0% libido, I cant have erections for more than 1 minute and of course anorgasmia. I really dont like this. It is ironic.. now that I can talk to girls , I cant have sex with them.
>
> Guys help me, tell me what do you think?
>
> This combination of Nardil and Seroquel is very good but at the same time is very bad.
> I dont know what to do. No ideas in my brain.
> Decreasing Seroquel would not let me sleep like now and the fear would return. Increasing Nardil will make have even worst sexual side effects
>
> Psycobabblers, I really need your help in this moment !!!!
>
> Tep
I don't take Nardil but quite a few others here who have, said that the sexual side effects often go away with time. It may take a few months though (and of course no guarantees).
Posted by Tepiaca on May 18, 2005, at 19:47:46
In reply to Re: NARDIL-SEROQUEL, too good and too bad to be true, posted by Declan on May 15, 2005, at 23:44:48
> I havn't taken either of these drugs. But say you took a little less Nardil, could you then drop the Seroquel back a bit too? Nardil sounds so good except for the SE. If I took Nardil and it worked a bit, with few SE, I would be more than happy.
> DeclanI believe taking less of both drugs , will return my fear back again.
But I´ll have to try it one dayThanks !!
Posted by Tepiaca on May 18, 2005, at 19:50:25
In reply to viagra? ginkgo?, posted by iforgotmypassword on May 16, 2005, at 0:16:56
> i dont know the price of viagra or any of the other substitutes, but ive heard of people using ginkgo biloba for erectile dysfunction... ? anyone confirm?
Yes I had heard that too.
the problem is that I dont know how safe would be to take it with Nardil ......
Thanks for your suggestion !
Posted by Tepiaca on May 18, 2005, at 19:53:52
In reply to Re: NARDIL-SEROQUEL, too good and too bad to be true » Tepiaca, posted by ixus on May 16, 2005, at 3:37:15
> Hi Tep,
> Maybe you need to replace seroquel by benzo? Do you live in Argentina? I am asking because I know that Parnate is available in Argentina, not Naridil.
> /ixusHi!, I forgot to tell you , I ocasionally take .5 mg of klonopin.
In the past , I was only on Nardil and klonopin, I could not sleep reaching 60mg of Nardil. Seroquel helps me to sleep at least for 5 hours.
Also anxiety was not under control only with Nardil and Klono, Seroquel is helping a lotThanks !!
Posted by Tepiaca on May 18, 2005, at 19:55:05
In reply to Re: NARDIL-SEROQUEL, too good and too bad to be true » Tepiaca, posted by ed_uk on May 16, 2005, at 10:43:11
> Hi Tep!
>
> I'm glad you're anxiety is under control :-D
>
> Greetings!
> Ed.
thanks ed !!!
Posted by Tepiaca on May 18, 2005, at 20:03:23
In reply to Re: NARDIL-SEROQUEL, too good and too bad to be true, posted by Pelequin on May 16, 2005, at 15:56:17
>
> Yeah I would recommend adding a stimulant to help with the lack of motivation problem, but most (maybe all) can't be taken with a MAOI.
>
> It's quite a pity, because stimulants tend to aggravate anxiety in people with social anxiety, but they amplify energy and motivation like nothing else. It would be nice to pop Nardil in there and have all problems solved. Oh well.I know ! , that is bad =(.
Do you think an stimulant may return the anxiety ???
I never have taken this kind of drugs, Im a little afraid of them, this is ironic cause Im taking an antiopsychotic , that I suppose it´s a more dangerous drugthanks !!
Posted by Tepiaca on May 18, 2005, at 20:08:41
In reply to Re: NARDIL-SEROQUEL, too good and too bad to be true » Tepiaca, posted by KaraS on May 16, 2005, at 20:16:04
>
> I don't take Nardil but quite a few others here who have, said that the sexual side effects often go away with time. It may take a few months though (and of course no guarantees).
>
>
>Hi ! , I have taken Nardil for almost 2 years. In the past I only had problems when I reached the 75 mgs. I stayed in that dose for 1 month.
Now it is different, this combo has totally killed my sexuality. I am man with no desire to have sex and even IF I wanted, I would be able to do it becase I can´t have an erection for more than 1 minute. =(
But as you said before, maybe time could helpThanks Kara !!
Posted by Pelequin on May 18, 2005, at 20:13:14
In reply to Re: NARDIL-SEROQUEL, too good and too bad to be true » Pelequin, posted by Tepiaca on May 18, 2005, at 20:03:23
>
> >
> > Yeah I would recommend adding a stimulant to help with the lack of motivation problem, but most (maybe all) can't be taken with a MAOI.
> >
> > It's quite a pity, because stimulants tend to aggravate anxiety in people with social anxiety, but they amplify energy and motivation like nothing else. It would be nice to pop Nardil in there and have all problems solved. Oh well.
>
> I know ! , that is bad =(.
> Do you think an stimulant may return the anxiety ???
> I never have taken this kind of drugs, Im a little afraid of them, this is ironic cause Im taking an antiopsychotic , that I suppose it´s a more dangerous drug
>
> thanks !!
>
>Yeah if you already have anxiety problems then adding any stimulant, be it caffeine, ephedra (which BTW the ban is in the process of being lifted because the science claiming ephedra is unsafe is weak), or speed, then I suspect it would only aggravate your anxiety.
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