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Posted by Tepiaca on November 25, 2004, at 22:14:32
Hello
stimulants is the only kind of drugs that I have never used . Never in my whole life . So I don´t have experienced on them . I have hear good an bad things here about them .Do you think they are dangerous drugs????
What can be their worst side effect???
What are they prohibited in some countries? or some doctor never prescribed them ??
do they tend to poop out regularly ?? . Never heard of a person with many time on them.
Anybody has use a stimulant with a MAOI ??
Hope you can help me
Tep
Posted by CareBear04 on November 26, 2004, at 0:28:08
In reply to Never on STIMULANTS.....are they dangerous???, posted by Tepiaca on November 25, 2004, at 22:14:32
hey-- i can say good and bad things about stimulants. the stronger the stimulant or stimulant-type drug (i started with wellbutrin 450mg, then strattera, then provigil, then concerta (ritalin) and adderall) the more effective for me. they have greatly improved my concentration and have helped with my low energy, at least at first. the downside is that the strong stimulants suppress my appetite so that i forget to eat or even make everything too unpalatable to eat. eventually this leads to less energy because of insufficient nutritional intake. i don't blame stimulants for all the problems i've had recently or for the large amounts of weight loss, but they started the process of deterioration while speeding me up so that i pushed myself harder without enough food to sustain that pace. one recent problem is hypoglycemia, followed by very low blood pressure and very fast pulse, so the end result has been that my brain isn't getting enough glucose or oxygen to function up to par. still, even though the doctors are tapering me off adderall, i feel attached to the drug and will be sorry to be off it. i hope this helps you. good luck, cb
Posted by linkadge on November 26, 2004, at 20:43:23
In reply to Re: Never on STIMULANTS.....are they dangerous??? » Tepiaca, posted by CareBear04 on November 26, 2004, at 0:28:08
I was on ritalin to augment celexa. It worked *wonderfully* for my depression for about 3 months.
That stuff pooped out so fast, up to 60mg. THe withdrawl was hell on steroids. Sometimes I think I lost energy to breath I was so lethargic.
Some do well, but I would avoid them altogether.
Then again, nothing works for me.
Linkadge
Posted by Tepiaca on November 26, 2004, at 21:32:27
In reply to Re: Never on STIMULANTS.....are they dangerous??? » Tepiaca, posted by CareBear04 on November 26, 2004, at 0:28:08
Thank you carebear for telling me your experience
I guess I only gonna have to try stimulants as the last resource.Tep
Posted by Tepiaca on November 26, 2004, at 21:47:51
In reply to Re: Never on STIMULANTS.....are they dangerous???, posted by linkadge on November 26, 2004, at 20:43:23
link can you tell me wich drugs have you tried until now? including altenative supplements
why dont you tried to make some studies on your brain ? do you have insurance??
I´ve been like you , veru depressed since the age of 16 , now Im 24 . I found certain kind of relief on my depression but no too much on my Social phobia
When I was 19 , doctors made me a Computerized
Axial Tomography (wrong spelling) , a Magnetic Resonance , and that study I dont know the name in english in which they scan your brain activity , closing your eyes and opening , moving one finger then another etc. .Nothing wrong they found on my brain. Just that my hypofisis gland was a little bit smaller than the average , so doctors found I had low thiroids levels.
You should try something like this link. Just to know more about your brain situation
Dont give up
Tep
Posted by linkadge on November 27, 2004, at 9:48:17
In reply to Re: Never on STIMULANTS.....are they dangerous??? » linkadge, posted by Tepiaca on November 26, 2004, at 21:47:51
I've been on:
St. John's Wort
SAMe
Fish Oil
Folic Acid/B12
Magnesium
5-htp/Tyrosine/Phenlyalanine
Sleep Deprivation
Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation
Exercise (still always do)
Celexa
Paxil
Effexor
Remeron
Prozac
Zoloft
Sinequan
Parnate
TrazedoneSeroquel
Zyprexa
Risperdal
ThioridazineLithium
Tegretol
Trileptal
DepakoteAttenolol
Bromazepam
Temazepam
Lorazepam
Clonazepam
Oxepam
And Probably More I can't recall.
Posted by lostforwards on November 27, 2004, at 16:36:44
In reply to Re: Never on STIMULANTS.....are they dangerous???, posted by linkadge on November 27, 2004, at 9:48:17
I had no idea you had tried so many treatments. have you ever tried lamictal?
Posted by linkadge on November 28, 2004, at 0:47:00
In reply to Re: Never on STIMULANTS.....are they dangerous???, posted by lostforwards on November 27, 2004, at 16:36:44
Actually, no I have not tried lamictal.
Have you? I hear mixed things. I don't know
if its worth the risk of the life threatening rash or whatever.
Linkadge
Posted by lostforwards on November 28, 2004, at 11:19:03
In reply to Re: Never on STIMULANTS.....are they dangerous???, posted by linkadge on November 28, 2004, at 0:47:00
Yeah, I've tried it. I was really worried about the rash too, though it never developed. I only had to take 25mg and it gave me a huge boost.
Actually it gave me such a huge boost that I went off it. Some of my feelings I felt towards other people suggested I had become a little manic.
It was really potent for me. However, at the time I started it I was also only on 600mg lithium my usual dose of 900mg.
It may be worth a try. I think the chances of developing the rash are pretty low and that it's only life-threatening if you develop it around your throat.
Posted by CareBear04 on November 28, 2004, at 15:57:59
In reply to Re: Never on STIMULANTS.....are they dangerous???, posted by linkadge on November 27, 2004, at 9:48:17
wow, i thought i was the only one who's been on that many meds, and all within the last two years. btw, i've tried lamictal, too, and i'm currently titrating up. after almost two months, i'm only up to 150mg. the steven johnsons risk is relatively high for something so serious (one doctor said 1 in 1000) but it's minimized if you go slow enough. some doctors say to increase by 25mg a week; others say that you can double the dose every two weeks. i've been on lithium 1200-1800mg for a year and a half, but after two hospitalizations for toxicity in october and november, they've taken me off it for awhile. i don't feel anything good from the lamictal yet, but i also haven't crashed or gotten manic or anything, so maybe it's doing something in a subtle way.
here's my list:
lexapro
paxil
effexor
zoloft
wellbutrinlithium
depakote
neurontin
lamictalrisperdal
zyprexa
seroquel
abilify
trilafon
haldolativan
atarax
klonopin
xanax
vistarilambien
trazodone
sonota
restoril
halcionstrattera
provigil
adderall
concertapropranolol (for lithium tremors)
reglan (medication nausea)
compazine (nausea)
zofran (nausea)and, as you said, probably more that i'm forgetting. many times, i've been the first one my psychiatrists have prescribed the drug for. no wonder i feel like a human guinea pig.
would love to hear your thoughts on some of the meds you've tried that i haven't, especially tegretol and other anticonvulsant mood stabilizers. i've been told they wouldn't be good for my kind of bipolar. thanks for posting your list.
Posted by CareBear04 on November 28, 2004, at 16:02:07
In reply to Re: Never on STIMULANTS.....are they dangerous???, posted by linkadge on November 28, 2004, at 0:47:00
what is sinequan? and what did you think of parnate? i would like to try it, but no dr will consider it seriously since there are a lot of interactions and i'm on a ton of other meds. i've heard it's pretty activating, which i need, and that it's a good antidepressant. do you remember if it had an effect on your appetite? also, what did you take atenolol for and how did you find it? i was considering it as an alternative to propranolol, but i don't know what the difference is between the two.
thanks!
Posted by ed_uk on November 28, 2004, at 16:07:58
In reply to another question » linkadge, posted by CareBear04 on November 28, 2004, at 16:02:07
Hi,
Sinequan is the brand name for a tricyclic antidepressant called doxepin.
Ed.
Posted by linkadge on November 28, 2004, at 17:07:11
In reply to another question » linkadge, posted by CareBear04 on November 28, 2004, at 16:02:07
sinqeuan (doxepin) is an old sedating tryciclic antidepressant.
Parnate was very good but I think it made me psychotic. It is very activating, and very dopimanergic.
I used attenolol to counteract the high blood pressure ritalin gave me (I forgot to mention my trials with ritalin and dexedrine, also have to add zopiclone to the list)
Linkadge
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