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Posted by Guy on November 21, 2004, at 18:19:55
Well, after a few weeks of relatively smooth sailing I'm back down in the hole...anxiety, back pain, neck pain and suicidal thoughts. Currently taking 2 mg clonazepam and 5 mg Zyprexa. Sleeping OK but I feel totally hung over all day with big bags under my eyes. Feels like my entire nervous system is breaking down, and I spend a lot of time crying. Too chicken to do the final act, but not wanting to carry on. If there were a euthanasia clinic in town I'd be the first in line...nice warm bed and just drift off to sleep. Seeing my pdoc tomorrow but I know he's tired of listening to me complain so I'm not expecting much. This is the eighth year of mental and physical torture and I keep thinking how unfair this is, not only to me, but also to my wife and kids. Can't wait for it all to end.
Posted by crazychickuk on November 21, 2004, at 21:52:25
In reply to Back in the Hole, posted by Guy on November 21, 2004, at 18:19:55
I am so sorry to hear this...
Please dont feel a pain when u see the pdoc they are there for a reason to listen to problems and help in every way that they can..
You are probably feeling tired and stuff cus of the zyprexa and the benzo they are both cns depressants (correct me if i am wrong) ...
Have you tryed an antidepressant ? an maoi even ?
Please dont give up IT WILL GET BETTER ..
Be strong Be stronger
Posted by Bill LL on November 22, 2004, at 9:11:11
In reply to Back in the Hole, posted by Guy on November 21, 2004, at 18:19:55
It sounds like you need an antidepressant! Zyprexa is usually used in combination with another antidepressant to treat depression.
> Well, after a few weeks of relatively smooth sailing I'm back down in the hole...anxiety, back pain, neck pain and suicidal thoughts. Currently taking 2 mg clonazepam and 5 mg Zyprexa. Sleeping OK but I feel totally hung over all day with big bags under my eyes. Feels like my entire nervous system is breaking down, and I spend a lot of time crying. Too chicken to do the final act, but not wanting to carry on. If there were a euthanasia clinic in town I'd be the first in line...nice warm bed and just drift off to sleep. Seeing my pdoc tomorrow but I know he's tired of listening to me complain so I'm not expecting much. This is the eighth year of mental and physical torture and I keep thinking how unfair this is, not only to me, but also to my wife and kids. Can't wait for it all to end.
Posted by sjb on November 22, 2004, at 9:42:04
In reply to Re: Back in the Hole, posted by Bill LL on November 22, 2004, at 9:11:11
Good advice from the replies. I have nothing to add other than to tell you I understand and I have felt the way you described to a "T", many, many times. Your PDoc is getting paid to help you, even if to you, it does feel like a broken wheel. To him, it may not, as once depression hits, reality gets very warped. Get another appt as soon as possible, embelish on what you posted here and don't protect the Dr, just put it out there.
Posted by denise1904 on November 24, 2004, at 5:55:11
In reply to Back in the Hole, posted by Guy on November 21, 2004, at 18:19:55
Hi Guy,
Your note made me smile slightly (although I know it shouldn't have) it's just that I've felt the same way as you so many times. I used to fantasise when I was at my wits end, that I could go to a euthanasia clinic and some nice doctor would just put me to sleep and out of my misery. It was such a seductive fantasy.
Please don't blame yourself, you're entitled to moan as much as you want and don't give up, just keep giving yourself deadlines for when you can give up and when that deadline passes, give yourself another one just so it doesn't seem too far away. Eight years in an awfully long time but hopefully (and I keep praying for this) they'll start making some major breakthroughs in their research in the next few years, what medication have you tried so far?
Denise
Posted by Guy on November 24, 2004, at 20:31:43
In reply to Re: To Guy, posted by denise1904 on November 24, 2004, at 5:55:11
Denise, I've been on a lot of anti-depressants which just made my anxiety a lot worse (Buspar, Zoloft, Doxepin, Elavil, Nardil, Serzone, Trazedone). I have also tried Neurontin, Seroquel and others that I can't remember. Clonazepam and Zyprexa seem to dull the pain, but I feel they are wearing out and I never feel totally normal, even on my best days. My big phobia is insomnia, for even one night of poor sleep translates to incredible suffering the next day. I, too, hope that researchers will learn more about the central nervous system and be able to treat disorders such as anxiety, depression, and chronic pain.
Posted by denise1904 on November 26, 2004, at 3:31:03
In reply to Re: To Guy, posted by Guy on November 24, 2004, at 20:31:43
Hi Guy,
When I took Zyprexa every now and again, I found that 5mg didn't really do that much but 10mg gave me a brilliant nights sleep, have you tried 10mg every now and again?
Also, I know what you mean about buspar etc creating more anxiety, they did for me, then edventually after two years the doctor decided to put me on high dose Seroxat 40mg, for the first week I was leary and expecting to get the same old horrible effects but for some reason they actually started to help. Not sure if it was due to the fact that I'd been on Nardil for a month prior to taking the Seroxat, Nardil didn't help the depression, just made me feel spaced out but I didn't experience much anxiety on it either. Buspar didn't help me at all just made me apathetic and anxious at the same time but then I didn't give it very long or take a high enough dose of it.
I Hope you find something that helps, I really do.
Denise
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