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Posted by coldcasefile on November 23, 2004, at 10:10:27
In reply to Re: Everyone's different, but..., posted by depressedkitten87 on November 22, 2004, at 23:45:26
i've been on effexor-xr for just 8 days now...began with 37.5mg dosage for four days, then upped to 75mg. i'm supposed to jump to 112.5mg in four more days but i'm a little reluctant at this point. i know that it hasn't been long enough to realize many benefits, but the one thing i have noticed so far is a mild, general increase in energy. the downside has been dry mouth and a drastic decline in sexual interest and ability. i'm also growing concerned about the weight gain that i keep hearing about and am already ready wanting to try something else. i tried wellbutrin 4 years ago...took it for about 3 weeks and quit. i haven't taken anything until now because i thought the anxiety and depression was something i should be able to get over on my own. i wish i would have stuck with the wellbutrin in the first place, as the last 4 years have really been a struggle.
i've heard that the dry mouth from the effexor will go away within a few weeks but i'm really becoming concerned with the sexual side effects and possible weight gain...i'm not sure if it would be worth it. should i continue to give it a chance or switch to something else before i get too far into the medication?
Posted by jubilee on November 23, 2004, at 11:02:52
In reply to Re: Everyone's different, but..., posted by coldcasefile on November 23, 2004, at 10:10:27
I pray you have read alot of older posts before continuing on with effexor , literally, as an x herion addict, the drug from hell. that you will consider its dangers unless you arre older and plan to die on it , unless of course it ruins your blood preasure or vision as myself , or destroys your liver, and you have to quit it. Anything this dangerous cannot be good for your body. Keep reading. Yes, its an exelent anti depp. but let me suggest as one who fought agitated chronic dep, for 19 years, that ELIVIL is your safest and best bet. Gaining a few pounds wont kill you by any means and I got so bad I would go back on prefering some extra weight over the hell of my depression. It is an old drug , but insist upon it.Yes , ,gum works good for dry mouth. Non sugarless , unless you want to destroy your life w/ that too HA . Actually ELAVIL is a drug for TB (1952 dis. )but found people comming out of severe depressions and it saved my life and my son takes it too. Helps you sleep and it a chronic pain killer also. Kept me off pain meds many many years.
I hope you will prayerfully consider what I have written. I am taking 6 months to go off effexor and my mate still struggles w/ my emotional outbursts as do I. I have a month to go. Naushia, insomnia, headaches , but nothing like whats beyond the Hong Kong Flu for others it sounds, that lasts over a month. !!! Fast quiters. Please dont do this to your body. Read the stories in past posts. God Bless you. Jubilee.
Posted by jubilee on November 23, 2004, at 11:13:18
In reply to Re: Everyone's different, but..., posted by jubilee on November 23, 2004, at 11:02:52
Please read above post.
I am almost off now , a month to go , and I will deal with headaches and some nausia and emotions but so looking forward to being free and already have found new freedom and joy. God bless you all. Hang in there and remember most dr's arent going to understand , so go off on your own and take 5 months if ins or otherwise, it will be worth it. A month before you quit tell em you want to try something different , of course not paxil which can be worsr than effexor. Ha God Bless you all . I will chech in again. Jubilee
Posted by jubilee on November 23, 2004, at 11:21:51
In reply to Re: King and Queen » corafree, posted by S.Bartel on November 15, 2004, at 20:36:26
Wow, When I last went down on effexor I had to up Methadone as I was in insane pain, After getting through it , my severe pain stopped and I've been scratching my head. I think you really have something here though I dont know why its not the same for you Sammi. Just had to see what you were up to Sam and how you are doing. Never heard of those shots but I take methadone and Ms Contin and muscel relaxers for pain of disks, and wouldn't survive w/o it. No high with Methadone . What are shots . I know I what to expect with next drop now I believe they are assoiciated!. God Bless you. Jubilee
Posted by jubilee on November 23, 2004, at 11:25:17
In reply to Re: King and Queen( Wow I'm Blessed!) » S.Bartel, posted by jubilee on November 23, 2004, at 11:21:51
I do believe these two are connected and when I went off the good anti dep called elivil, is when I started having to be treated for severe pain in back and my fibro from 83 flared up real bad. I have so much hope now and may go back on elivil just for the cronic pain killer in it. Jubilee
Posted by jubilee on November 23, 2004, at 12:33:22
In reply to Re: King and Queen, posted by dancingstar on November 15, 2004, at 11:17:33
Hi to all , KIng and Queen and dancingstar. This is some news about the Fibromialgia-effexor-paxil connection ???? I am copying these things to show my Dr. as you know how dr"s love knowledge. I am banking on it . Going to send in mail for when he has time to read. also about the side affects.
I just discovered ,.finally how to get to older posts...
You simply click on the very top post and then scroll down . You can go to all kind of posts this way and you can also get very lost!!!!! so click back on PC, if tht hapens to you. Thanks Dr. Bob for your love and care for people you must have . Expect to meet you in heaven someday. God Bless you all.( also , doc says dont switch pages . That was just for info , or we'll probably drive him nuts trying to keep up with all of us !!!HA Jubilee.
Posted by pianomama on November 23, 2004, at 12:34:10
In reply to Re: King and Queen( Wow I'm Blessed!) » S.Bartel, posted by jubilee on November 23, 2004, at 11:21:51
Wow, you folks are scaring me. I've been on Effexor for 8 months, and I seem to be doing fine. I'm more relaxed, and more able to cope with the stresses I couldn't handle before effexor. But yeh, my BP has gone up some and I'm puzzled about a 10 pound weight gain. Thinking about going off, but don't know how without hurting myself. Suggestions?
Posted by jubilee on November 23, 2004, at 12:38:45
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? » hannah3, posted by corafree on November 19, 2004, at 12:25:02
Yes ," inderal" is an old heart med but they give it to the stars on Awards Nights so they don't have a panic attack if they get nominated. My doc told me that after haveing a full blown at an AA meeting. Never again!! Bet its chear too. Take 10or 20 mgs, and no more attacks. Take before arriving at local for possible Panic attack. Jubilee
Posted by jubilee on November 23, 2004, at 12:42:04
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawal Highly Overratedshyla, posted by scruff on November 20, 2004, at 16:36:29
I agree. Some ( non addictive types) might not have side affects , but most and many do . Its about lacking that enzime in liver like alkies suffer from. Jubilee
Posted by dancingstar on November 23, 2004, at 14:04:53
In reply to Re: King and Queen( Wow I'm Blessed!), posted by pianomama on November 23, 2004, at 12:34:10
I had no trouble when I was on effexor; so I didn't think I would have any trouble when I went off. I had no idea. It's been over two months, and all yesterday I had a migraine for no reason. Throwing up, etc. I am giving up my classes at UCLA cause I can't keep food down. I don't know why my body is having such a tough time. I thought it was almost over, but I guess it's not. Maybe I need to go buy more Benadryl.
Some people don't have any trouble stopping, you know. You could be one of the lucky ones. At this point I'm getting scared.
Posted by dancingstar on November 23, 2004, at 14:09:15
In reply to Re: King and Queen( Wow I'm Blessed!) » S.Bartel, posted by jubilee on November 23, 2004, at 11:21:51
Thanks, Jubilee. That is one pain I don't have, the fibro pain :-)...It's just my stomach that has given out. I cannot keep any food in it all, and I am getting migraines.
Posted by dancingstar on November 23, 2004, at 14:11:58
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawal Highly Overratedshyla, posted by jubilee on November 23, 2004, at 12:42:04
what enzyme in the liver? I'm not an alcoholic.
Posted by pablo1 on November 23, 2004, at 17:55:18
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawal Highly Overratedshyla, posted by jubilee on November 23, 2004, at 12:42:04
jubilee, could you clarify your statement. I had pretty minor withdrawal from effexor and I do drink to much, though not all day or anything like that.
> I agree. Some ( non addictive types) might not have side affects , but most and many do . Its about lacking that enzime in liver like alkies suffer from. Jubilee
Posted by S.Bartel on November 23, 2004, at 19:48:48
In reply to Fibromialgia Anyone???Elivil for chronic pain » jubilee, posted by jubilee on November 23, 2004, at 11:25:17
Jubilee,
With the Depo-Medrol shots I don't even need the Elavil. You can only get the shots three or four times a year but that works for me. Ask your Rheumatoligist about them if you don't have one get one. They are very familiar with treating Fibromyalgia.
Sammi
Posted by corafree on November 25, 2004, at 17:16:52
In reply to Re: Fibromialgia Anyone???Elivil for chronic pain » jubilee, posted by S.Bartel on November 23, 2004, at 19:48:48
Is Depo-Medrol a steroid? At what site does your doc inject? cf
Posted by S.Bartel on November 26, 2004, at 9:36:56
In reply to Re: Fibromialgia Anyone???Elivil for chronic pain » S.Bartel, posted by corafree on November 25, 2004, at 17:16:52
It is a combination of drugs. Pain killers, steroids, etc. It is much safer than prednisone and is given in the hip. I could'nt function without it. Compared to going without it I am virtually pain free with it. Ask your Dr. about it.
Posted by Gia on November 26, 2004, at 14:20:06
In reply to Re: withdrawal, posted by medlib on April 22, 2000, at 4:21:02
I have been taking Effexor for about two months now. I find it has really helped me and I feel a lot better about myself lately and have been getting excellent sleep minus the weird dreams. I once had a eating disorder besides depression and this also has seemed to disapear. I would recommend to anyone with depression to read Elizabeth Wurtzel's books, she is amazing!!
Posted by dancingstar on November 26, 2004, at 17:57:10
In reply to Re: King and Queen( Wow I'm Blessed!), posted by pianomama on November 23, 2004, at 12:34:10
If your bp is up and your weight is up for no other reason, then it is likely that it is because of the Effexor. The sooner you quit taking it, the easier it will be for you to stop is about all I can say. I just wish that they told us that there were side effects.
Over dinner yesterday one of the things that came up is how silly I felt but how common it was that we actually managed to take this drug -- and others -- without being fully aware of the possible side effects. Suggestions? Well, first speak with your doctor; but don't expect him or her to know tons about this as I don't think that our experience has made its way into their literature...and I don't know why. I would like to find that out.
I want to write to the press, maybe Oprah. Why didn't we know what we were in for before we took this drug? Why was it prescribed for fatigue or hot flashes or various other things having nothing to do with depression? Why were we so vulnerable? How many other drugs are treated in a similar fashion?
Treating the paying public like lab rats is unconscienable. All I can say to you is that I don't believe that anyone besides you will take good care of your health; so you might as well try to find a way out of this as quickly as possible. Some like to do it slowly, and that kind of makes sense because of the way that brain chemicals work. They say that Prozac (sp?) helps to make withdrawal from Effexor easier; so you might want to try that. Others say it doesn't help at all. It seems like it's kind of dependent on your body's own chemistry, but I would give it a try because anything you can do to make this easier is worth trying. Some people do not have any trouble at all when they stop taking Effexor; they just stop and that's it. If you are lucky enough to be one of those people, don't look back. Don't do it a second time because you may not be that lucky twice...know what I mean? I'm afraid something in the brain chemistry changes.
Anyway, be glad you became aware of any changes in your body now and not later.
Blessings!!
Posted by dsbk on November 27, 2004, at 22:20:37
In reply to Re: Effexor and Itching, posted by dancingstar on November 4, 2004, at 0:40:41
At one time I took Paxil for GAD and liked its results except for the sexual side effects. Then I started taking Effexor and at first thought it was going to work for me, now I'm just not getting the results that I want (I don't feel like myself yet.) My Dr. is having me swicth to Lexapro and now I am itching all over from head to toe. With the research that I've done on the net I have found that people have had problems with itching while taking Effexor and Lexapro. I don't know witch is causing it (I'm taking both right now.) It's driving me crazy and making me more anxious! I'm about ready to go back to Paxil and just deal with the sexual side effects, I don't know witch is worse! Will this insane itching go away with time?
Any suggestions? dsbk
Posted by dsbk on November 27, 2004, at 22:21:27
In reply to Re: Effexor and Itching, posted by dancingstar on November 4, 2004, at 0:40:41
At one time I took Paxil for GAD and liked its results except for the sexual side effects. Then I started taking Effexor and at first thought it was going to work for me, now I'm just not getting the results that I want (I don't feel like myself yet.) My Dr. is having me swicth to Lexapro and now I am itching all over from head to toe. With the research that I've done on the net I have found that people have had problems with itching while taking Effexor and Lexapro. I don't know witch is causing it (I'm taking both right now.) It's driving me crazy and making me more anxious! I'm about ready to go back to Paxil and just deal with the sexual side effects, I don't know witch is worse! Will this insane itching go away with time?
Any suggestions? dsbk
Posted by dsbk on November 28, 2004, at 13:36:38
In reply to Re: I'M FREE - SOMETHING MUST BE DONE ABOUT MARKETING, posted by BlueBleep on November 5, 2004, at 9:12:20
BlueBleep
I can't believe your Dr. has left you on this if it's making you feel so bad! My Dr. told me that these kinds of medicines work different for everyone and it is all just trial and error. If your not feeling better in a few week try something new (especially if it has been more than the 4-6 weeks that it can take to work!) I liked Paxil, except for the sexual side effects and since then I have tried Effexor and now Lexapro. Either the Effexor or Lexapro is making me itch all over so I'm thinking about going back to the Paxil-I just want to feel better-NOW!
Hope you feel better soon! dsbk
Posted by corafree on November 28, 2004, at 17:35:39
In reply to Re: Fibromialgia Anyone???Elivil for chronic pain » corafree, posted by S.Bartel on November 26, 2004, at 9:36:56
So, Depo-Medrol is a combo steroid, correct? Thank you for response!
I do have fibromyalgia, especially legs, arms.
For extruded cervical spine discs, I've had trigger point injections with lidocaine and Aristocort (a steroid).
Last time saw current PCP; he did six pokes (trigger points) in the muscle between top shoulder blades. Did not have Aristocort; used something supposed to be like it; name not recalled. Good news is did not have break-through pain!
Is Depo-Medrol used in epidural injections? Seems maybe that was one of the choices I wasn't given. For me, epidural injections w/ triamcinolone are totally ineffective.
I'm at a place where can print. Don't worry, I do not print names or sites. Keeping info for future.
Re: Elavil; if in position to d.c. Eff-XR, toss it and Prozac back and forth.
Best wishes in this 'merry-or-moody season' to you and all friends, .. cf
> It is a combination of drugs. Pain killers, steroids, etc. It is much safer than prednisone and is given in the hip. I could'nt function without it. Compared to going without it I am virtually pain free with it. Ask your Dr. about it.
Posted by HermanMunster on November 28, 2004, at 23:59:10
In reply to Re: Effexor and Itching, posted by dsbk on November 27, 2004, at 22:20:37
sometimes if a toe itches you need to find somebody with a foot fetish to suck it good.
Posted by S.Bartel on November 29, 2004, at 6:14:27
In reply to Re: Fibromialgia Anyone???Elivil for chronic pain » S.Bartel, posted by corafree on November 28, 2004, at 17:35:39
I have had no luck with the epiderals either and I don't believe depo-medrol can be used that way. all I know is that it works and I know others that it works for too. Good Luck and Happy Holidays.
Posted by linkadge on November 29, 2004, at 9:26:42
In reply to Re: Effexor and Itching, posted by HermanMunster on November 28, 2004, at 23:59:10
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