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Posted by crazychickuk on November 21, 2004, at 21:50:23
Valium is making me more anxious kind of thing a few other guys mentioned this happening to them also and other benzo's we fight them kind of thing ..
Does anyone have any ideas on what will work? i have severe anxiety and panick and am on effexor just started it and i am climbign the walls with anxiety and i cant sleep either its like 4 am and i am so wide awake ( i am only on 18mg effexor in the am) ..
anyone ?
thanks
Posted by Glydin on November 21, 2004, at 23:14:33
In reply to WHAT WILL WORK ? --, posted by crazychickuk on November 21, 2004, at 21:50:23
The folks who post here are very willing to give you support. What we cannot do is be face to face help for you, which is what I believe you need. I know you have said hospitalization is not an option, but I really think that is what you need. Or, at the very least, a doc or therapist you can be in close contact with. Just by the history of your posts here, I'm not sure how successful you can be at home, on your own, trying to get to the point that meds will help you. I think it may take 24/7 care to guide you and support you with IMMEDIATE help with dosing, med choice, and reassurence.
Suggesting other meds or changes is a good idea, in theory, but what I think is the big issue is getting you to where you will actually be able to take the meds. No amount of suggestions for meds is going to matter unless you can ingest them without total, complete fear.
I'm not trying to put you down or make you feel badly. I really would like you to find a way out of this and I think you could be successful in your treament if you could break the cycle of being terrified of taking the meds that could really make a big impact on your functioning.
Posted by crazychickuk on November 22, 2004, at 2:51:05
In reply to Re: WHAT WILL WORK ? -- » crazychickuk, posted by Glydin on November 21, 2004, at 23:14:33
Posted by ed_uk on November 22, 2004, at 5:28:16
In reply to Re: Just wanted suggestions for a benzo ? (nm), posted by crazychickuk on November 22, 2004, at 2:51:05
Hi Donna,
If you'd like to try another benzo instead of diazepam you could always try lorazepam (Ativan).
Ed
Posted by Glydin on November 22, 2004, at 6:41:25
In reply to Re: Just wanted suggestions for a benzo ? (nm), posted by crazychickuk on November 22, 2004, at 2:51:05
I feel I intruded too much and I am apologize.Hope you work things out.
Posted by polarbear206 on November 22, 2004, at 7:55:30
In reply to Sorry, won't input further. » crazychickuk, posted by Glydin on November 22, 2004, at 6:41:25
Klonopin. Hands down!!!!
Posted by crazychickuk on November 22, 2004, at 9:00:34
In reply to Re: Sorry, won't input further., posted by polarbear206 on November 22, 2004, at 7:55:30
mwhaaa ((hugs)) to you ... u didnt intrude at all ...
Ativan? my freind has that she got it fro mthe hospital shall i ask her for a few? will i that be ok cus my doc defo wouldnt give it to me... ? BUT if i try it and it works i can just tell me doc that and he will have to give me sum.. lol
Posted by ed_uk on November 22, 2004, at 10:49:45
In reply to Re:GLYDEN-dont be silly ((hugs)), posted by crazychickuk on November 22, 2004, at 9:00:34
Hi,
Well, I can't really advise you to take someone else's medication! If you want your GP to prescribe it you should ask him why he thinks it's ok to give you diazepam but not lorazepam. Personally, I prefer lorazepam but my current pdoc doesn't prescribe it. Many uk docs seem to be under the impression that it has a higher potential for abuse than diazepam. How wrong they are! In my opinion, diazepam seems to produce a mild 'high' that I've never experienced with other benzos.
Show this to your doc.............
J Psychoactive Drugs. 1993 Oct-Dec;25(4):315-9. Related Articles, Links
Types of benzodiazepines abused by chemically dependent inpatients.Malcolm R, Brady KT, Johnston AL, Cunningham M.
Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Medical University of South Carolina, Charleston 29425.
Records of inpatients (N = 1,483) over a three-year period at an addiction treatment center were evaluated for the presence of benzodiazepine (BZ) dependence (N = 136). The preferred BZ for 43% of the subjects was diazepam, and alprazolam for 14% of subjects. Chlordiazepoxide, lorazepam, and clorazepate were each the preferred BZ for 4% of patients. Cocaine and opioid abusers were six times more likely to abuse diazepam than any other BZ. Alprazolam patients required a significantly longer period of detoxification than diazepam patients. Four percent of BZ-dependent patients (N = 6) abused BZs only and had no other substance abuse history.
Regards,
Ed
Posted by Glydin on November 22, 2004, at 11:10:31
In reply to Re:GLYDEN-dont be silly ((hugs)), posted by crazychickuk on November 22, 2004, at 9:00:34
Didn't want to come off harsh and I think I did. I appreciate your kind spirit.
I wish you could get Klonopin, but I beleive that's not possible in the UK.
Ativan is a good choice and I hope you can make a case with your doc to get it prescribed at a good dose for you.
Hugs back to you.
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