Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 404643

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lyrica is really a super-neurontin!

Posted by jlbl2l on October 19, 2004, at 6:35:20

This stuff is like a super-neurontin basically. I love it!

 

Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!

Posted by utopizen on October 19, 2004, at 7:40:38

In reply to lyrica is really a super-neurontin!, posted by jlbl2l on October 19, 2004, at 6:35:20

> This stuff is like a super-neurontin basically. I love it!

what do you mean? I have social anxiety disorder. I used Neurontin at 800mg 3x/day for it for months, but gave up because at that dose it made me feel retarded.

 

Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!

Posted by jlbl2l on October 19, 2004, at 7:57:55

In reply to Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!, posted by utopizen on October 19, 2004, at 7:40:38

i dont know, but Lyrica is very stimulating. it is very hard to explain. It is so great so social phobia, and i have tried Nardil, Klonopin (1year) and many others.

This drug is comparable to GHB or a mild XTC. I am not kidding. I am very surprised its not controlled. I am taking 2 200mg caps daily only.

In the side effects leaflet the first listed common side effect is "feeling of elation"

I am certaintely feeling that!

 

Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!

Posted by Kristel on October 19, 2004, at 10:12:31

In reply to lyrica is really a super-neurontin!, posted by jlbl2l on October 19, 2004, at 6:35:20

Hello. Happy that you found something that works for your SA. In what ways you feel that Lyrica is better than Clonazepam?! How much Clonazepam would be equivalent to 2x200mg Lyrica in term of effectiveness?!

Lyrica has been launched in the market here in Norway couple of days a go. It's expensive and I don't want to waste more money on useless stuff. I have already spent a deal because of some stupid suggestions on this site.

So, bottom, how great is it? hope that you can be more specific!!

Kristel.

 

Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!

Posted by Kristel on October 19, 2004, at 10:13:44

In reply to Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!, posted by Kristel on October 19, 2004, at 10:12:31

I meant bottom line :)

 

Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!

Posted by TheOutsider on October 19, 2004, at 11:31:33

In reply to Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!, posted by Kristel on October 19, 2004, at 10:12:31

I'm so happy to hear that Lyrica is so effective!
Its recently been launched in the UK, I'm currently looking for a replacement for GHB for my social anxiety.
How does it compare to GHB? If you don't mind me asking.
Also can you point me to any studies that demonstrate its effectivness for SA?

 

Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!

Posted by Kristel on October 19, 2004, at 11:44:58

In reply to Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!, posted by TheOutsider on October 19, 2004, at 11:31:33

Hello.

I doubt that Pfizer has published the studies they conducted on SA using Lyrica. But back in 2002 it appereared that their internal studies showed effictiveness becuase they talked about appling for the FDA to get it approved for Social Anxiety and GAD. They FDA rejected the GAD approval and I am not sure if Pfized ever submitted it as a treatment for SA.

I think independent studies will be done soon that test its effictiveness for SA.

Does it say anything in the leaflet about tumors?! Pfizer found that Lyrica can cause tumors in mice and this in fact delayed the release, but I am not sure what they done about that since.

> I'm so happy to hear that Lyrica is so effective!
> Its recently been launched in the UK, I'm currently looking for a replacement for GHB for my social anxiety.
> How does it compare to GHB? If you don't mind me asking.
> Also can you point me to any studies that demonstrate its effectivness for SA?

 

Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin! » jlbl2l

Posted by theo on October 19, 2004, at 12:16:05

In reply to Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!, posted by jlbl2l on October 19, 2004, at 7:57:55

I didn't know it was out yet and I know for sure it was declined approval for anxiety by the FDA last month, this is on the manufacturers web site.

So if it is out and you have it, did our doc prescribe it to you for pain, off label?

 

the bottom line on Lyrica - » Kristel

Posted by jlbl2l on October 19, 2004, at 15:32:36

In reply to Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!, posted by Kristel on October 19, 2004, at 10:12:31

I have taken 600mg which would comparable to probably 5-6mg klonopin, but this is totally different than kpins. It feels much different. It is stimulating at these higher doses between 400mg and 600mg. It really makes your mind feel different, and relaxed all over. Its almost like a XTC, or GHB like feeling at these doses. Everything is fun , while using this medicine. And sleep is much better... MY SA is gone on this. I like this better than Kpins by far and i was on klonopin for a year...

Its hard to describe. I feel smarter, no pain, i feel "normal" maybe better than normal. Sort of like it has very strong anti depressant properties .... Very incredible medicine...

I highly rec. Lyrica, it is pricey, but worth.

I would say the higher dose is better. Up to 600mg daily.

And i feel more stimulated on it than sedated, which klonopin made me sedated.

It is very cool.

Bottom Line : worth every penny i paid, superior to benzos, because of the anti-deprssant properties + less sedating (no side effects yet!) and it is just better in every way.

 

Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin! » TheOutsider

Posted by jlbl2l on October 19, 2004, at 15:34:31

In reply to Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!, posted by TheOutsider on October 19, 2004, at 11:31:33

studies for social anxiety are on pubmed.com
type "pregabalin"

It is very similar to GHB. I mean, it is obviosly different, but it feels like a mix between something sedating and something stimulating!

So its feels more like a mix of XTC/GHB. I really wonder if this drug hits similar receptors as GHB or something.

Either way i love it.

 

Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin! » Kristel

Posted by jlbl2l on October 19, 2004, at 15:35:58

In reply to Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!, posted by Kristel on October 19, 2004, at 11:44:58

The leaflet doesnt mentions the tumors, which they conducted follow-up studies and found it was safe anyways...

The leaflet does hoever mention "feeling of elation" and "feeling drunk" as common side effects.

Lol

 

Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin! » theo

Posted by jlbl2l on October 19, 2004, at 15:37:55

In reply to Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin! » jlbl2l, posted by theo on October 19, 2004, at 12:16:05

I ordered it myself from Europe. No prescription required.

I am using it for many things. Social phobia/anxiety. pain , sleep, and it really is a great anti-deprssant.

 

Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!

Posted by utopizen on October 19, 2004, at 17:05:50

In reply to Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin! » theo, posted by jlbl2l on October 19, 2004, at 15:37:55

Okay, first of all, let's not get everyone's hopes up-- I've heard people on the 'net claim Neurontin reminded them of GHB. Anyone who's tried Neurotnin knows it justs makes you sedated-calm in very high doses, to the point where you're retarded, and can't function too well if you need to work or go to school on the stuff.

 

Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin! » utopizen

Posted by jlbl2l on October 19, 2004, at 17:15:46

In reply to Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!, posted by utopizen on October 19, 2004, at 17:05:50

since you havent tried it , it isnt fair to comment on it yet. people can judge for themselves if they like it, of course.

i am just giving my opinion, and experience. I have used neurontin in the past. this is different and superior to neurontin.

 

Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!

Posted by utopizen on October 19, 2004, at 21:14:53

In reply to Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin! » utopizen, posted by jlbl2l on October 19, 2004, at 17:15:46

> since you havent tried it , it isnt fair to comment on it yet. people can judge for themselves if they like it, of course.
>
> i am just giving my opinion, and experience. I have used neurontin in the past. this is different and superior to neurontin.
>

you're right, it wasn't fair, and i'm sorry for appearing pretentious. but it's important to note people come to this board looking for hope, and when they keep trying all these different meds, after awhile they sort of might give up on hope even when a new med does come out that might help them a lot.

I hope the best of luck to you. I also hope Lyrica is a good alternative to the benzos, although I can't imagine that being the case (that's just me talking, IMHO, after trying everything from antihistamines to antipsychotics to antidepressants to Neurontin, Lamictal, Buspar, and Gabatril).

Gabitril made me have ideas of reference (delusional paranoia, extreme) for a night. So I months later gave up on my pdoc, as he realized he was throwing any psychotropic at my that existed as a means of avoiding a benzo. Benzos work for me, Klonopin's fine for me, I have no problems with it, and it now comes in wafer form. I can talk to girls, have discussions in class, and not feel "retarded" as Neurontin made me feel.

I once again am glad to hear you felt better. It's just that I once thought neurontin was my miracle drug, until a few months into it I realized the IQ lowering effect it had on me was too much to handle.

 

Re: lyrica: What about sex? » jlbl2l

Posted by Pluto on October 20, 2004, at 1:19:39

In reply to Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin! » utopizen, posted by jlbl2l on October 19, 2004, at 17:15:46

Hi

Lyrica seems to be an interesting stuff. But please tell me how it affects you sexually? Libido neutral? Or Libdo downer?
Could ye please answer?

 

Re: lyrica: What about sex? » Pluto

Posted by jlbl2l on October 20, 2004, at 6:26:38

In reply to Re: lyrica: What about sex? » jlbl2l, posted by Pluto on October 20, 2004, at 1:19:39

At the higher doses, it seems to me stimulating mostly, and sexual desire seems to increase.

At lower doses it seems to decrease sexual desire a little, but not much.

I havent noticed any major change.

Its nothing worse than what a benzo would do for sex.

 

Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!

Posted by zach21 on October 20, 2004, at 18:18:46

In reply to lyrica is really a super-neurontin!, posted by jlbl2l on October 19, 2004, at 6:35:20

Is this available in the U.S. yet?

 

Not approved in US, and not anxiety,link attached

Posted by theo on October 20, 2004, at 23:31:48

In reply to Re: lyrica is really a super-neurontin!, posted by zach21 on October 20, 2004, at 18:18:46

http://www.highbeam.com/library/doc0.asp?docid=1G1:121554286&refid=hbr_flinks1

 

Re: Not approved in US, and not anxiety,link attached

Posted by Cecilia on October 22, 2004, at 3:35:50

In reply to Not approved in US, and not anxiety,link attached, posted by theo on October 20, 2004, at 23:31:48

Anyone know why it was not approved for anxiety?


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