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Posted by tepiaca on July 25, 2004, at 0:53:58
Hello
These are the drugs that have help me the most in my 9 years of illness .I. Im still trying to find something that can return my life back. I have something like Social phobia , mixed with depression , GAD and suffered from mild psychotic features in the past .I am currently on
Nardil 45mg - Clonazepam .5mg(night)These are the medicines that has help me the most to the fear I feel when I am with people.
Zyprexa (olanzapine)
antipsychotic, mania, mood stabilizer,depression
thienobenzodiazepine:
neuroleptic:
DA2 antagonist +
DA1 antagonist +
5-HT2a antagonist ++
5-HT2c antagonist +
NE-alpha1 antagonist +
ACh(m) antagonist ++
H1 antagonist ++Seroquel (quetiapine)(Best for my depresision)
dibenzothiazepine:
neuroleptic:
DA2 antagonist +
5-HT2a antagonist ++
NE-alpha1 antagonist ++
H1 antagonist +
sigma antagonistNardil (best for my anxyety)
Nardil phenelzine depression, social anxiety, GAD, panic disorder, OCD
hydrazine:
MAOI
GABA transaminase inhibition
I would really appreciate any comments and thoughts about it .
Help me please!
Posted by Camille Dumont on July 25, 2004, at 2:06:52
In reply to Help me, look at my list of drugs please !!, posted by tepiaca on July 25, 2004, at 0:53:58
Ok, here are my impressions / experiences ... do not substitute / take them for medical advice because I'm in NO WAY qualified to do so.
I've taken the Seroquel and the Zyprexa for the "psychotic features" of my depression and really, that was the biggest mistake I ever made. You don't mention the dosage but I was on Seroquel 50 and then Zyprexa 5 ... which is HUGE when its just to "alleviate insomnia and slight psychotic features" and it basically turned me into a total zombie. I could not function, I had seizures, I was falling down and I could barely talk.
Sometimes docs prescribe antipsychotics a little bit to easily in my opinion ... I mean sure you're not going to commit suicide ... you're too drugged up to even think about it, let alone act upon it.
What has helped me alot with the depression and alot of the symptoms that go with it like the violent thoughts and urges which are basically just anxiety symptoms and what not was Effexor. It took a high dosage (300) and an augmenting agent (celexa 20) but it did work ... and much better than with the blasted antipsychotics.
Seriously, all those antipsychotics and weird meds they gave me to take at night only made things worse. Sure I slept ... but I slept like 16hous a day ... which doesn't work very well when you have a job. In the end, stopping them made the insomnia worse for a little while but then it just stopped and as the ADs did their job my sleep came back on its own and I could actually function.
Sometimes fewer meds is better than more because you can end up adding meds to counteract the SE of other meds and well, this can go on for very long and leave you serisously overmedicated.
Have you thought about getting another doctor or at least another opinion on your medication regiment. It might be usefull.
Posted by SLS on July 25, 2004, at 6:06:09
In reply to Help me, look at my list of drugs please !!, posted by tepiaca on July 25, 2004, at 0:53:58
> Hello
> These are the drugs that have help me the most in my 9 years of illness .I. Im still trying to find something that can return my life back. I have something like Social phobia , mixed with depression , GAD and suffered from mild psychotic features in the past .Have you tried Effexor or Paxil?
- Scott
Posted by Sebastian on July 25, 2004, at 13:02:40
In reply to Help me, look at my list of drugs please !!, posted by tepiaca on July 25, 2004, at 0:53:58
I'll agree with the zyprexa!
Posted by SLS on July 25, 2004, at 13:09:31
In reply to Re: Help me, look at my list of drugs please !!, posted by Sebastian on July 25, 2004, at 13:02:40
> I'll agree with the zyprexa!
I agree too.
:-)
- Scott
Posted by tepiaca on July 26, 2004, at 0:07:13
In reply to Re: Help me, look at my list of drugs please !!, posted by SLS on July 25, 2004, at 13:09:31
Thank you for your precious comments
I´m not currently on Zyprexa . I took it 4 years ago at 10mg most of the time . It was the first medicine that help me after a long list of failures .
I have also tryedPaxil
Effexor
Zoloft
Wellbutrin
Solian
Adepsique
amytriptiline
tofranil
and more I cant remember exactly at this moment =(
The best by most , Nardil(currently on it) , Seroquel and Zyprexa (some years ago)
What do you think guys ??????
Posted by Sad Panda on July 26, 2004, at 11:00:37
In reply to Guys this is what I have taken previously, posted by tepiaca on July 26, 2004, at 0:07:13
Hi Tepiaca,
Have you tried increasing Nardil?
How about adding an antipsychotic to Nardil & removing Klonopin?
Cheers,
Panda.
Posted by Sebastian on July 27, 2004, at 18:54:09
In reply to Help me, look at my list of drugs please !!, posted by tepiaca on July 25, 2004, at 0:53:58
Celexa!
Posted by tepiaca on July 29, 2004, at 23:50:57
In reply to Re: Guys this is what I have taken previously, posted by Sad Panda on July 26, 2004, at 11:00:37
> Hi Tepiaca,
>
> Have you tried increasing Nardil?
>
> How about adding an antipsychotic to Nardil & removing Klonopin?
>
> Cheers,
> Panda.
>
Hi panda , yes I have reach the dose of 75mg of Nardil and I found no relief . Then suddenly I suffered an HP crisis and I had to stopped for a moment the Nardil . Im on 45 now. Dont know if I should try 90 mg.maybe I should add an antypshicotic like you said , but Im a little scared of taking again these drugs . Anyway I guess I have to play all my cards left =(
Posted by tepiaca on July 29, 2004, at 23:57:33
In reply to Re: Help me, look at my list of drugs please !! » tepiaca, posted by Sebastian on July 27, 2004, at 18:54:09
SSRI ??
why ?????
Posted by Sad Panda on July 30, 2004, at 7:53:02
In reply to Re: Guys this is what I have taken previously » Sad Panda, posted by tepiaca on July 29, 2004, at 23:50:57
> > Hi Tepiaca,
> >
> > Have you tried increasing Nardil?
> >
> > How about adding an antipsychotic to Nardil & removing Klonopin?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Panda.
> >
>
>
> Hi panda , yes I have reach the dose of 75mg of Nardil and I found no relief . Then suddenly I suffered an HP crisis and I had to stopped for a moment the Nardil . Im on 45 now. Dont know if I should try 90 mg.
>
> maybe I should add an antypshicotic like you said , but Im a little scared of taking again these drugs . Anyway I guess I have to play all my cards left =(
>
>If Seroquel works, take it & try & go off Klonpin slowly as it maybe causing you extra depression. I would stay with Nardil or maybe change to Parnate. Seroquel would also be handy to have when you have a hypertensive crisis as it is a potent alpha-1 NE antagonist. In a crisis I would take a kingsize dosage(600mg) of it on your way to the doctors or hospital.
Cheers,
Panda.
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