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Posted by T34 on February 5, 2004, at 16:36:29
My doc gave me some samples today of a new BP drug called Symbyax. It is supposed to be good for antidepression and anxiety. We are not sure what I am :() I have manic spells where I can't sleep, but usually it's related to medication. I get so irritable sometimes with my kids that I find myself screaming at them and I can't really stop. I want to stop that behavior. I can't stand being such an ill-pill. I have told my husband that sometimes I get so mad, I can just sling a cup across the room just because the cup isn't the right color, or something stupid. The thing is, I don't have depression. Or I don't think I do. I consider myself a very positive person, and generally in a pretty good mood most of the time. It's just those days when I feel like my nerves are SHOT that I want to fix. Does this sound like BP to any of you?? I am/was on Lexapro, but am trying this new med due to Lexapros sexual side effects and the weight gain. Lexapro works beautifully for nerve problems, though.
Posted by Ilene on February 5, 2004, at 18:23:59
In reply to Symbyax, posted by T34 on February 5, 2004, at 16:36:29
> My doc gave me some samples today of a new BP drug called Symbyax. It is supposed to be good for antidepression and anxiety. We are not sure what I am :() I have manic spells where I can't sleep, but usually it's related to medication. I get so irritable sometimes with my kids that I find myself screaming at them and I can't really stop. I want to stop that behavior. I can't stand being such an ill-pill. I have told my husband that sometimes I get so mad, I can just sling a cup across the room just because the cup isn't the right color, or something stupid. The thing is, I don't have depression. Or I don't think I do. I consider myself a very positive person, and generally in a pretty good mood most of the time. It's just those days when I feel like my nerves are SHOT that I want to fix. Does this sound like BP to any of you?? I am/was on Lexapro, but am trying this new med due to Lexapros sexual side effects and the weight gain. Lexapro works beautifully for nerve problems, though.
Symbyax is a combination of Prozac and Zyprexa (an antipsychotic sometimes used to augment ADs). It's approved for bipolar depression.
I think irritablility is sometimes a symptom of mania. It's also a symptom of depression.
What do you mean by "nerve problems"?
Ilene
Posted by T34 on February 5, 2004, at 21:12:28
In reply to Re: Symbyax » T34, posted by Ilene on February 5, 2004, at 18:23:59
By nerve problems, I mean the irritability. Like my "nerves are shot" or I can't stand a lot of clutter in the house or things not being put where I normally put them. I tend to feel sorry for myself and think I am the only one in the house doing anything (I have three children). With me waking many days at 2, 3 or 4 and doing several loads of clothes, cleaning the kitchen, and house, then working all day, taking the kids and myself to all of our extracurricular activities and paying bills and buying groceries. You know, typically female feels like Mom runs the home and everyone expects it! Well some days I just want to beat my head into a wall because I am so frustrated and angry and snappy at everyone. That's the "nerve" problems I am facing. My mother has something, and used to scream at my siblings and I and I hated it. I resented her and got married as soon as possible to get away from her. She has never taken any medicine and refuses to admit that there is a problem. I refuse to allow my family to suffer through my problem----I am just not sure what my problem is. I know the Lexapro helps. Whatever I have, I am sure it is hereditary from my mother.
Posted by Ilene on February 5, 2004, at 22:01:26
In reply to Re: Symbyax, posted by T34 on February 5, 2004, at 21:12:28
> By nerve problems, I mean the irritability. Like my "nerves are shot" or I can't stand a lot of clutter in the house or things not being put where I normally put them. I tend to feel sorry for myself and think I am the only one in the house doing anything (I have three children). With me waking many days at 2, 3 or 4 and doing several loads of clothes, cleaning the kitchen, and house, then working all day, taking the kids and myself to all of our extracurricular activities and paying bills and buying groceries. You know, typically female feels like Mom runs the home and everyone expects it! Well some days I just want to beat my head into a wall because I am so frustrated and angry and snappy at everyone. That's the "nerve" problems I am facing. My mother has something, and used to scream at my siblings and I and I hated it. I resented her and got married as soon as possible to get away from her. She has never taken any medicine and refuses to admit that there is a problem. I refuse to allow my family to suffer through my problem----I am just not sure what my problem is. I know the Lexapro helps. Whatever I have, I am sure it is hereditary from my mother.
*Those* nerve problems. Some people here have neurological problems.
I think part of your problem is that you are doing too much.
I.
Posted by rainee on February 5, 2004, at 23:22:10
In reply to Symbyax, posted by T34 on February 5, 2004, at 16:36:29
You sound alot like me .. Is this a new drug? That angry feeling makes me feel like I just want to run away... Is that a new Drug Symbax? I new what you meant when you said nerve problems right away... I have the same. I'm always saying leave me alone my nerves are bad today or your getting on my nerves ..lol I feel for you..
I have 3 kids too and a house but I get so low I don't function and things pile up.let me know how it goes.
Rainee
Posted by T34 on February 6, 2004, at 16:26:57
In reply to Re: Symbyax » T34, posted by rainee on February 5, 2004, at 23:22:10
The medicine is new. In fact, after I read that it is Prozac, I called my doc back and we decided to hold off on trying it and just add Wellbutrin to the Lexapro. He says that if this "problem" I have is Bp, the antidepressants would make me very hyper. They don't seem to do that. I am just able to handle everyday problems. Btw I teach children so I can't afford to be "ill" or "short-tempered". I have to have the patience of Job. I go through spells where I clean and get everything organized, then if I take ONE day off, or don't put everything back into it's place, everything piles up so much it's like a tornado went through our house. I get frustrated that I feel like I am the only one doing the housework. I know my husband helps, or he claims he does anyway, but it only seems to pile up when I decide I am too tired to mess with it. Now I'm turning this site into a therapy session---didn't mean to do that. :)
T
Posted by T34 on February 7, 2004, at 2:37:10
In reply to Re: Symbyax (nm) » Ilene, posted by T34 on February 7, 2004, at 2:20:11
I am sorry about the blank posting. Actually I had typed a long one and for some reason it did not save what I had put. I'll see if I can remember this: I realize what I have are neurological problems, migraines and with the irritablity. I did not mean to offend anyone by using the term nerves. I was simply trying to describe what I was feeling and to me that is the best explanation of what I get. Like the saying "I had one nerve left and you just stepped on it", well I feel like that often. I am up at 2:00 a.m. and I know it's from adding the Wellbutrin today. That makes me wonder if this isn't bipolar. I haven't seen a psychchologist or therapist, just a family practitioner who is a very close relative. He is wonderful. He is very patient and seems to be knowledgeable of the psychotropic drugs. He told me that bipolar can be hard to dx because you can't just run a test and find out that you have it. My symptoms can either be bipolar or anxiety/ depression. The lexapro was great and helped beautifully without making me wired up in the middle of the night, which he says goes against the bipolar theory. I just would like to know for sure what I am dealing with. I have always been one to research and find out as much as I can about anything that might be wrong with me or my family. What I have found out about my symptoms is that these neurological problems are so individualized sometimes they are hard to dx and treat (from reading people's posts). Thank you for your input.
T
Posted by VitalSign on February 7, 2004, at 3:39:13
In reply to Re: Symbyax, posted by T34 on February 7, 2004, at 2:37:10
I understand. I do the same to my finacee for no reason. Sometimes all she says is that she wants to go out for the night and I start yelling at her. About 4 hours later I am crying because I feel so bad. She forgives me and understnads my disorder but there is only so much someone can take.
I take Luvox and Xanax, have for years and years. I didn't like Depakote. My doctor has given me Lexapro to try but from what you tell me it doesn't seem to help with mania.
But then again I sleep for hours and hours and never wake up in the middle of the night or rarely have trouble sleeping.
Perhaps my outbursts are from depression alone?
Posted by rainee on February 7, 2004, at 5:19:31
In reply to Re: Symbyax, posted by VitalSign on February 7, 2004, at 3:39:13
How about trying a different moodstabilizer? I have come to the conclusion that AD's especially SSRI's make me worse. right now I'm trying just abilify with klonopin.
Rain
Posted by Ilene on February 7, 2004, at 9:45:05
In reply to Re: Symbyax, posted by T34 on February 7, 2004, at 2:37:10
I don't think anyone was offended. "Nerves" is just an ambiguous term. For example, I get nervous, but I also have a disorder of the autonomic nervous system.
You might be interested in this site, which has great info. about bipolar disorder.
http://www.psycheducation.org/
I.
Posted by T34 on February 7, 2004, at 15:30:02
In reply to Re: Symbyax » T34, posted by Ilene on February 7, 2004, at 9:45:05
Thank you. I will look into this site.
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