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Posted by wsj on September 20, 2003, at 14:19:17
you two seem to be the resident parnate experts. cubbybear - please tell the worst things about living on parnate. cybercafe - how could you have had all those good effects only to quit because of add. what exactly about your add made you switch.
thanks
wsj
Posted by wsj on September 20, 2003, at 14:42:17
In reply to cubbybear cybercafe, posted by wsj on September 20, 2003, at 14:19:17
if parnate has worked so good for you for 20 years, why do you frequent this board?
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 20, 2003, at 19:30:46
In reply to Re: PS cubbybear , posted by wsj on September 20, 2003, at 14:42:17
> if parnate has worked so good for you for 20 years, why do you frequent this board?
To support and educate others?
Bob
Posted by cubbybear on September 21, 2003, at 5:40:28
In reply to Re: PS cubbybear , posted by Dr. Bob on September 20, 2003, at 19:30:46
> > if parnate has worked so good for you for 20 years, why do you frequent this board?
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> To support and educate others?
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> BobOf course, that's a major reason and I think that this board is just incredibly unique, informative, and supportive. It's got information from people that I can't even get from my doctor (such as recommended tapering schedules for Klonopin and others' experiences with it). I also like to hear about others' experiences with certain other drugs. I'd like to learn about all the"new and improved" meds. (hah!) for depression/anxiety, and think that the postings from technical experts like Ames are brilliant.
Posted by cubbybear on September 21, 2003, at 5:50:39
In reply to cubbybear cybercafe, posted by wsj on September 20, 2003, at 14:19:17
> you two seem to be the resident parnate experts. cubbybear - please tell the worst things about living on parnate. > thanks
> wsjThanks for the kind compliment.
That's an interesting question. The worst thing about living on Parnate? I'd have to say it's the scary realization that I COULD be in grave danger if one day I needed emergency surgery and the anesthesiologist didn't understand the nature of MAOI inhibitors, or if I somehow found myself in agonizing pain and could not take any pain killer meds for it, since so many (all?) are contraindicated with Parnate. These are hypothetical situations and concerns about things that may never happen.
On a day to day basis, there is NO bad thing at all about living on Parnate except perhaps that I can not gorge on CHEESE the way I'd like to. But compared to the agony of severe depression, this is a sacrifice I'm more than willing to make.
Posted by cybercafe on September 21, 2003, at 14:03:30
In reply to cubbybear cybercafe, posted by wsj on September 20, 2003, at 14:19:17
> you two seem to be the resident parnate experts. cubbybear - please tell the worst things about living on parnate. cybercafe - how could you have had all those good effects only to quit because of add. what exactly about your add made you switch.
couldn't hold down a job.... it was horrible waiting for buses ...... etc ... ADD just really sucked
Posted by wsj on September 21, 2003, at 21:40:45
In reply to Re: cubbybear cybercafe » wsj, posted by cubbybear on September 21, 2003, at 5:50:39
> > you two seem to be the resident parnate experts. cubbybear - please tell the worst things about living on parnate. > thanks
> > wsj
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> Thanks for the kind compliment.
> That's an interesting question. The worst thing about living on Parnate? I'd have to say it's the scary realization that I COULD be in grave danger if one day I needed emergency surgery and the anesthesiologist didn't understand the nature of MAOI inhibitors, or if I somehow found myself in agonizing pain and could not take any pain killer meds for it, since so many (all?) are contraindicated with Parnate. These are hypothetical situations and concerns about things that may never happen.
> On a day to day basis, there is NO bad thing at all about living on Parnate except perhaps that I can not gorge on CHEESE the way I'd like to. But compared to the agony of severe depression, this is a sacrifice I'm more than willing to make.
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do you consider yourself even mildly deppressed on parnate? do you feel like you are drugged or do you just feel normal?
Posted by cubbybear on September 23, 2003, at 3:59:36
In reply to Re: cubbybear cybercafe » wsj, posted by wsj on September 21, 2003, at 21:40:45
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> do you consider yourself even mildly deppressed on parnate? do you feel like you are drugged or do you just feel normal?Idon't feel depressed at all and don't feel drugged at all. I feel about as good as anyone can feel these days, considering the state of the world as it is.
Posted by wsj on September 23, 2003, at 22:51:30
In reply to Re: cubbybear cybercafe » wsj, posted by cubbybear on September 23, 2003, at 3:59:36
does taking parnate affect you at all in your job? are you able to focus, unlike cybercafe, and complete tasks. do you have to manage others, and are they aware of your medication?
can you think clearly? how much do you sleep at night? are you able to work out and stay in shape on parnate?thanks for the advice!
wsj
Posted by cubbybear on September 24, 2003, at 2:43:02
In reply to Re: cubbybear, posted by wsj on September 23, 2003, at 22:51:30
> does taking parnate affect you at all in your job? are you able to focus, unlike cybercafe, and complete tasks.
There are no adverse effects on my job performance and can complete all tasks without a problem.
do you have to manage others, and are they aware of your medication?
I am not in a mangerial position, and can speak openly about my medication with colleagues. I don't care what people think of my medication and neither should anyone else. In this day and age, anyone who looks down upon another for having to take psychotropic medication doesn't warrant a friendship. I feel strongly about this. I'm a "child of the 60s", commonly called a Baby Boomer, and our slogan of those years was "do your own thing", which meant doing whatever was right for you as long as you weren't hurting anyone else in the process.
> can you think clearly?
Yes at all times, but sometimes have a minor problem with short-term memory, which may be a result of taking Klonopin for over a year. (I'm now in the process of phasing it out).how much do you sleep at night?
I was never a "big" sleeper, whether on Parnate or not. I generally get about 5-6 hours of sleep per night, which is adequate. I trust my body to tell me when I'm fatigued or going into sleep deficit.are you able to work out and stay in shape on parnate?
I'm 54 and have been totally remiss about regular exercise. Occasionally, I go on short bike rides. When I first started taking Parnate at age 25, I could easily do a day of skiing. I was hiking the mountains around L.A. on weekends while in my early 40s, but have just gotten lazy about regular (strenuous) exercise the last few years.
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Posted by wsj on September 24, 2003, at 21:36:43
In reply to Re: cubbybear » wsj, posted by cubbybear on September 24, 2003, at 2:43:02
why were you taking klonopin? sleep? not to get to personal but what brought you to thailand?
thanks for the help!
wsj
Posted by cubbybear on September 25, 2003, at 1:09:29
In reply to Re: cubbybear » cubbybear, posted by wsj on September 24, 2003, at 21:36:43
> why were you taking klonopin? sleep? not to get to personal but what brought you to thailand?
During my severe depression last year, I had the conventional symptom of early-awakening and sleep deprivation, so my pdoc here put me on Klonopin. It works well with Parnate but, for several reasons, I don't want to be on any benzo drug indefinitely--in the past, I took only on "as needed" basis (occasional insomnia, situational anxiety).
My reasons for going to Thailand are many and would be better suited to Pycho Social Babble, but I'm not inclined to go on the board with it right now.
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