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Posted by cortez on August 31, 2003, at 13:09:17
In reply to Re: Lexapro side-effects , posted by postpartum mama on August 31, 2003, at 12:02:44
To lexapre rep. Has anyone reported being dizzy when starting lexapre. i just started within the last week on 1/2 of 10 mg= 5mg,Thanks
Posted by lil' jimi on August 31, 2003, at 13:12:30
In reply to re: Okpolosi metamorphisizes into Mariposa » lil' jimi, posted by Mariposa on August 31, 2003, at 11:40:44
hi Mariposa!
great to have you back !
grateful to hear you're doing better ... i've missed you ...
so glad to read your posts ... ...i understand completely that if your neurotransmitters aren't up for posting, then you just aren't going to feel like posting ...
i am so sorry to hear about the circumstances of your mother-in-law's death ... ... you have my sympathies for your experience from that tragedy ... ... i was present when my father-in-law died from lung cancer ... but we had already had to have given up hope for him when he went ...
... of course, stresses like those and your job insecurity compound the burden on your neurotransmitters and the suppport your lexapro can give you ....
... ... i think that jc12578 may have a point about body weight being a consideration in lex dosage levels ... ... i wonder if it doesn't require blood level concentrations to be raised to minmum targets to be able to get the CNS to receive the expected med dose ... particularly across the blood-brain barrier ... and i wonder ... that our circulatory system's contents are like a sponge soaking up the lex we put in ... so that our bigger sponges end up with lower concentrations than our smaller sponges on the same dose .... ... ????
... how CAN a 90 pounder and a 270 pounder get similar CNS levels on the same , say, 20 miillgrams ???
<<< ... these days it's just any excuse for jim to justify him getting more, isn't it? ... ... HA!>>
... coursin' there's another reason some of us read our sweet Mariposa's posts here ... ... i'm sorry to admit this ... but you _are_ our "canary in the coal mine" now that you've suffered this dry spell of yours (ours?) ... at least for the waynes and jims who are dependng on lex and have to be vigilant for reports of "poop out" ...
so your cheerleader is going to always be cheering for you, babe ... hang in there ... and always ...
... TAKE CARE !!!
~ jim
Posted by galkeepinon on August 31, 2003, at 13:14:51
In reply to Re: Mariposa-you have such helpful posts :-) really do » galkeepinon, posted by Mariposa on August 31, 2003, at 9:40:52
Posted by galkeepinon on August 31, 2003, at 13:19:59
In reply to Lexapro dosage questions? Why was I taking so much, posted by jc12578 on August 31, 2003, at 9:43:38
Whoooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-you started out at 30mg!!! That is a very high dose! What was your doc thinking?-I know that's what YOU'RE probably thinking!
Wow. Without going into anymore-I truly believe for your sake, try finding another doc~or communicate to him how you are feeling first and tell him that you feel like he/she isn't listening to you~you deserve it, and his remarks are not helping you. Remember, this is your life, and your body, and you pay him (well insurance maybe)but still...........
Also, what about going down to 5mg Lexapro again?
Take care!!!
> OK so I have been catching up after my week of torture(mostly self inflicted)...I am having horrible withdrawls from the lex...I have constant chills and my head is killing me...switching back to celexa...because I yelled at my psych till he said ok...not going to be on that poison..
>
>
> ANYWAYS...as I am reading through these posts I am looking at the dosages that you all are on...and I am wondering if there is a reason why I got started out at 30 mgs of lex a day when I see that most of you are on from 5-20...I know I am fat I weigh like 250...does that have something to do with it or is there some other reasons that I get such high doses...maybe I am being paranoid but is my condition more serious then they tell me or something...I mean I went up to 120 on the prozac...and i can NEVER get a straight answer from my psych...He thinks he is too smart for the world even tho my IQ is over 190 (GEEZ!!! I really despise that man...every session he says stuff like it's so nice to see that people have IQ's close to his..he's given me an IQ test twice...I really don't care that I can take tests well I just want to be normal again and not wake up every morning thinking I should be dead...OK gotta stop getting angry)..thank god he is leaving soon...anyone have any advice answers...would really appreciate it
Posted by OnTheRoad on August 31, 2003, at 13:29:01
In reply to I feel the same way-I try! :-) (nm) » Mariposa, posted by galkeepinon on August 31, 2003, at 13:14:51
To All-
New here, been readin with y'all for a full week now. Only fair to make an introduction.
I'm a textbook Case Study in depression. Onset in '81 when my wife left. Hit rock bottom, finally "gave in" to the "crutch" of meds. Those were the bad old days, my new friends, and them were some WICKED side effects. The SSRIs are a whole new planet.
I tried 'em all, found Effexor is the one for me. Been on it forever, and I'll take it to the day I die.
As for ay bias that may appear, I'm an open book, only too eager to share. I write ads for a major pharmaceuitical company...and their product didn't work for me. I'm sellin' nothin but the promise of brighter tomorrows to people near rock bottom.
Which brings me to you.
My own brother is now in a serious battle for his sanity, but his problem is OCD. I pushed and pushed and got him to see a doc, The Rx he got was Lexapro and I'm trying to stay on top...and I truly need YOUR help.He's been on it a week at 10mg and he's ready to quit...and I'm hammering away, telling him the effects aren't kickin in yet.
What IS kickin' in are side effects...or perhaps his own subliminal battle to "avoid crutches". We've all been there.
HIS COMPLAINTS seem new to me-- Dry mouth and constipation. Reminds me of those nasty old days. Can anyone shed some light?
Many thanks, and I apologize for the long-winded intro. But this seems to be a civil and supportive group.
-OnTheRoad
Posted by BLKVETTES on August 31, 2003, at 14:31:39
In reply to Re: Learnins 'bout Lexapro , posted by OnTheRoad on August 31, 2003, at 13:29:01
> To All-
>
> New here, been readin with y'all for a full week now. Only fair to make an introduction.
>
> I'm a textbook Case Study in depression. Onset in '81 when my wife left. Hit rock bottom, finally "gave in" to the "crutch" of meds. Those were the bad old days, my new friends, and them were some WICKED side effects. The SSRIs are a whole new planet.
>
> I tried 'em all, found Effexor is the one for me. Been on it forever, and I'll take it to the day I die.
>
> As for ay bias that may appear, I'm an open book, only too eager to share. I write ads for a major pharmaceuitical company...and their product didn't work for me. I'm sellin' nothin but the promise of brighter tomorrows to people near rock bottom.
>
> Which brings me to you.
> My own brother is now in a serious battle for his sanity, but his problem is OCD. I pushed and pushed and got him to see a doc, The Rx he got was Lexapro and I'm trying to stay on top...and I truly need YOUR help.
>
> He's been on it a week at 10mg and he's ready to quit...and I'm hammering away, telling him the effects aren't kickin in yet.
>
> What IS kickin' in are side effects...or perhaps his own subliminal battle to "avoid crutches". We've all been there.
>
> HIS COMPLAINTS seem new to me-- Dry mouth and constipation. Reminds me of those nasty old days. Can anyone shed some light?
>
> Many thanks, and I apologize for the long-winded intro. But this seems to be a civil and supportive group.
>
> -OnTheRoadHi there I had constipation and a dry mouth also. These are very common complaints with all kinds of meds. It all went away dont remember how long it took though. Have him buy something to move things along. Check with the pharmacist to make sure it is safe though with his med. We preach drink a lot of water here also. Sounds like what he is complaining about are very minor side effects. TAKE CARE!!!!
WAYNE
Posted by hog80ci on August 31, 2003, at 14:34:54
In reply to Re: so sleepy » hog80ci, posted by Mariposa on August 31, 2003, at 10:39:36
I'm getting a lot done around my house too. That actually feels pretty good because I really let a lot of things slide when I was in the "hole". I've been on Lex for 11 days, just went up to 20mg last Weds. I tell myself over and over that the ends justify the means in this case.
Sounds like you had a lot going on. It's good to know we can make it through stuff like that and not come apart at the seams. I'm retiring after 24+ years in the Air Force and there are a lot of feelings around that. It's really the only life I've ever known. Went through a divorce a while back then a pretty painful relationship. I don't do so well with abandonment. I agree with you...the support around here is great. I like reading about how people are "making it" every day. It also helps to know I'm not the only one who struggles, know what I mean?
Take care
Jim
Posted by postpartum mama on August 31, 2003, at 15:49:11
In reply to Re: Lexapro side-effects » postpartum mama, posted by Mariposa on August 31, 2003, at 12:59:36
> Your nausea should begin to lessen and go away. I found that drinking lots of water helped me. The headaches too should be going away shortly, if they are an se. I took OTC for mine and that seemed to work. I think it was a very good idea to cut back to 5mg until your body gets used to the Lex, then go back up to 10mg.
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> It sounds like you are already beginning to feel the *benefits* of Lex and things should just get better from here.
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> Best of luck to you and keep us posted on your progress.~~~8|8Thanks for the water tip--I do try to drink tons of water since I live in the desert, but more is always better! I hadn't made the connection that water might help w/nausea.
I was actually hoping to stay at the lower 5 mg. dose for a while...which brings up the perennial question about body weight & dosages. When I saw the post about the person who started on 30 mg I couldn't believe it, even if he is a big guy! I'm sure there's also a relationship between the severity of one's condition and the dose, but still, 30 mg sounds intense! My first day on just 5 mg of Lex (overlapping with Zoloft for a few days) I was so hyped out I couldn't sit still for 2 seconds. My thoughts were racing, the world was totally surreal, I almost couldn't even work! 10 cups of espresso would have been more relaxing.
If I am a relatively small person, wouldn't it follow that 5 mg of Lex might be enough for me? My symptoms have improved SOOOOO much since the first nightmarish days of the postpartum crash that I was hoping to begin tapering off all drugs someday soon. However, I guess I'll know soon if 5 mg of Lex is enough by monitoring my mood.
Posted by galkeepinon on August 31, 2003, at 16:17:28
In reply to Re: Lexapro side-effects , posted by cortez on August 31, 2003, at 13:09:17
Hi, I had a little bit of dizziness when I first started Lexapro about 5 weeks ago. I actually bumped into a wall in my home. It went away very fast. I do not get dizzy anymore.
Good luck, I think 5mg is a great way to start:-)> To lexapre rep. Has anyone reported being dizzy when starting lexapre. i just started within the last week on 1/2 of 10 mg= 5mg,Thanks
Posted by postpartum mama on August 31, 2003, at 17:17:01
In reply to Re: Lexapro side-effects » cortez, posted by galkeepinon on August 31, 2003, at 16:17:28
Now that I've done some more reading on various psychobabble threads, I thought I'd toss in some more data on my experiences with SSRI side effects.
Stats: Female, age 39, married, one baby girl age 15 mos
Diagnosis: Severe postpartum depression & anxietyI had a problem with jaw clenching, sexual dysfunction, diarrhea, dizziness, and vertigo during most of my time on Zoloft (15 mos). I could never tell if the jaw clenching was from anxiety or from the meds. The clenching did get better with time and lots of conscious relaxation. The sexual side effects were by far the worst SE, thus causing me to switch to Lexapro.
Now that I'm on Lexapro (3 weeks now), the jaw clenching is not really an issue but I have major muscle tension, especially around the neck and back of the head, which gives me terrible headaches.
Unlike many others, Lexapro does not make me sleepy, it makes me hyperactive. I take it with food in the early a.m., then take Klonopin in order to get to sleep at night.
In sum, for me, here are the SEs of the two SSRIs I've tried:
Zoloft = loss of libido, inability to achieve orgasm, jaw clenching, diarrhea
Lexapro = nausea, muscle tension, headaches, itchiness
Both: dizziness, vertigo
I think that's it! I'm hoping the Lexapro SEs will diminish soon and that new ones will not emerge...
Posted by postpartum mama on August 31, 2003, at 17:24:23
In reply to SIDE EFFECTS AND BREAST FEEDING, posted by blkvettes on March 3, 2003, at 13:22:57
I realize that the breastfeeding post is from March 2003, but I wanted to put in my two cents just in case someone new reads the thread.
From what I understand, Zoloft is considered the "safest" anti-depressant to use when breastfeeding. I took it while breastfeeding for 8 months and so far have not seen any ill effects on my daughter (she's 15 months now, fingers are crossed!). In my case, I gambled that the benefits of early breastfeeding would outweigh the risks of transmitting Zoloft & Klonopin on to my daughter via breastmilk. My pdoc and I both agreed that taking NOTHING while breastfeeding was not an option since my postpartum depression & anxiety were so severe.
I would not use Lexapro while breastfeeding since it is still so new. I agree that weaning would be preferable, especially with an older baby.
Posted by galkeepinon on August 31, 2003, at 20:29:46
In reply to Re: Lexapro side-effects , posted by postpartum mama on August 31, 2003, at 12:02:44
Glad you posted! Also glad to hear you doing fairly well on Lexapro:-) Seems to be the consensus around here;)
Do you think the BC pills may be contributing to the headaches as well? Did you recently start them or switch brands? I know I can't take BC pills because of the side effects. For me, it's just immpossible. I also swear by eating little pieces of ginger to help nausea. (it kind of smells like handy wipes, but I swear it works like a charm)
Keep up the weight loss and I hope you reach your 10Lbs goal pre-pregnancy weight soon:-)
Peace to you too!> Hey everyone,
>
> This is my first post, but I've visited the site a few times, researching side effects and withdrawal symptoms for the various anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds. Your comments were instrumental in my choosing to make a recent switch (3 weeks ago) from Zoloft to Lexapro.
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> Just wanted to share that I am doing fairly well with the Lexapro. I was on Zoloft for 1 1/2 years (75 mg/day) for major postpartum depression & anxiety but recently switched to Lexapro because I couldn't stand the sexual side effects of the Zoloft (nonexistent libido, inability to achieve orgasm). I am still taking 1.5 mg/day of klonopin for anxiety.
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> The most notable side effects I've experienced so far with Lexapro are nausea and severe headaches. The headaches improved when my pdoc reduced my dosage from 10 mg/day to 5 mg/day. Still struggling with nausea; however, I also take birth control pills which contribute to the nausea. The nausea "cure" seems to be eating a small snack in order to keep my belly full.
>
> No apparent issues with weight gain, though I have always had to work hard to keep weight off (I'm only 5'1", with a muscular build but a tendency to get a tummy pooch). I am dieting & exercising and have lost 15 pounds in the past few months (10 lbs to go to reach pre-pregnancy weight of 123!).
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> Since the Lexapro, I feel less depressed than I have for a long time, and my husband says he really notices a positive difference in my personality--as if the "old me" is back. I have more energy and more interest in life, and am noticing a gradual return of my libido! Hooray!
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> Hopefully I will continue to do well on Lexapro and will be able to start decreasing the Klonopin soon. Of course, someday I hope to be off EVERYTHING and be my old self again.
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> Good luck to everyone in this terrible game of mood instability, drug cocktails, and intolerable drug side effects.
>
> Peace.
Posted by lil' jimi on August 31, 2003, at 21:43:06
In reply to Re: so sleepy, posted by hog80ci on August 31, 2003, at 14:34:54
hi Jim,
... i about fell out of my chair when i read you wrote:
> I'm retiring after 24+ years in the Air Force and there are a lot of feelings around that. >
last friday was my last day after 32 years working for the state of texas ... thirty at ut ..." ... lot of feelings around that," said a lot to me ...
i know what you mean ...
... how people don't understand what it is about it that is not all good ...
... they may think they know ... they mean well
... even though it's "great" ... ... ?keep in touch ...
~ jim
Posted by jc12578 on August 31, 2003, at 22:03:44
In reply to Re: Lexapro dosage questions? Why was I taking so much » jc12578, posted by galkeepinon on August 31, 2003, at 13:19:59
Well I live in a samll NM community...he is the only psych here. for the 1st two years of treatment I was seeing my family doctor...and he turned me over to a clinic about 120 miles away...I went there for almost a year and it was just getting hard to commute and while I was there I saw a different doctor every time I went so I decided to switch to the ONE that we have here cause, 1 it's more convinient and 2 I figured that at least I would see the same person every time ( I got tired of giving my history EVERY time I went for an appointment)....plus thats when I got put on every pill in the world at the same time(it was up to like 30 a day at it's peak)...and I should know better my father was a doctor...some of them are not good at communicating with one another...I have only been seeing this one for like 4 months...
My main reason for switching is that I think I am manic/bi-polar and thats why i am being affected the way I am...BElieve it or not I have never had any sort of tests other than blood work so no one actually knows why I am the way I am..I am also bullemic ( have been since I was about 10) but that is on and off...well I am taking 3 weeks off the drugs after I threw a temper tantrum last week (and took about 15 trazadone) to let my system clear out and going back to Celexa...starting at 20mg daily for a month then up to 40 for 2 months then if needed maybe 60...which what I was on before....surprisingly with celexa I wasn't experiencing really bad side effects....it was working really good at 60...I went into his office last week and I YELLED (actually I told him off) untill I got my way...as he wrote the scrip for the celexa all he could say was "you are certainly willful" and I could see that nurses look was "boy what a B****"...so we will see what happens over the next few weeks drugless....will have to keep posts on it...all I can say right now is the headaches are nearing unbarable and I have the shakes and constant chills...JC12578
> Whoooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-you started out at 30mg!!! That is a very high dose! What was your doc thinking?-I know that's what YOU'RE probably thinking!
> Wow. Without going into anymore-I truly believe for your sake, try finding another doc~or communicate to him how you are feeling first and tell him that you feel like he/she isn't listening to you~you deserve it, and his remarks are not helping you. Remember, this is your life, and your body, and you pay him (well insurance maybe)but still...........
> Also, what about going down to 5mg Lexapro again?
> Take care!!!
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> > OK so I have been catching up after my week of torture(mostly self inflicted)...I am having horrible withdrawls from the lex...I have constant chills and my head is killing me...switching back to celexa...because I yelled at my psych till he said ok...not going to be on that poison..
> >
> >
> > ANYWAYS...as I am reading through these posts I am looking at the dosages that you all are on...and I am wondering if there is a reason why I got started out at 30 mgs of lex a day when I see that most of you are on from 5-20...I know I am fat I weigh like 250...does that have something to do with it or is there some other reasons that I get such high doses...maybe I am being paranoid but is my condition more serious then they tell me or something...I mean I went up to 120 on the prozac...and i can NEVER get a straight answer from my psych...He thinks he is too smart for the world even tho my IQ is over 190 (GEEZ!!! I really despise that man...every session he says stuff like it's so nice to see that people have IQ's close to his..he's given me an IQ test twice...I really don't care that I can take tests well I just want to be normal again and not wake up every morning thinking I should be dead...OK gotta stop getting angry)..thank god he is leaving soon...anyone have any advice answers...would really appreciate it
>
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Posted by collegekid on August 31, 2003, at 22:19:21
In reply to Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2002, at 7:52:48
I went to the doctor on Friday and read him my list of side effects (insomnia, loss of appetite, teeth clenching, feeling like a zombie, the shakes). And considering the semester started last Monday for my senior year in college, I really want to get these side effects under control, especially the insomnia. He told me to stop taking the Lexapro, wait two weeks, and then start Zoloft. Anyone have any expeience with this? I'm also thinking of just not taking the medication and continue working with the school counselor. I have a hunch it might be better for me to talk though my problems (molested by the babysitter's husband when I was 8, and drugged and raped by my best friend Matt when I was 16) even though it will probably take longer and emotionally hurt a lot. I'm just really confused- it sometimes feels like being on an anti depressant is worse than just being depressed.
Posted by jc12578 on August 31, 2003, at 22:36:34
In reply to stopping Lexapro... doctor wants me to try Zoloft, posted by collegekid on August 31, 2003, at 22:19:21
I wish I could say something about your situation and what caused your condition but I have no advice for that..I do however think you are a really stong person to be able to make it through all of that...as for the getting off of the meds...it's not a wise idea...I am currently working on my Phd and I remember starting college and the pills are a big help...you just have to find the one that works for you...counseling is a definate and it will help a lot...my true advice is if you feel the pill isn't working..talk to your doctor about it...and you can also just stay on a low dose (from personal experience don't let them put you on a bunch of pills...stick to one maybe 2 AT MOST)...if they tell you to increase and you feel that that wouldn't be best for you...tell the doctor...just be firm and stick to your guns...and I wish you the best of luck
> I went to the doctor on Friday and read him my list of side effects (insomnia, loss of appetite, teeth clenching, feeling like a zombie, the shakes). And considering the semester started last Monday for my senior year in college, I really want to get these side effects under control, especially the insomnia. He told me to stop taking the Lexapro, wait two weeks, and then start Zoloft. Anyone have any expeience with this? I'm also thinking of just not taking the medication and continue working with the school counselor. I have a hunch it might be better for me to talk though my problems (molested by the babysitter's husband when I was 8, and drugged and raped by my best friend Matt when I was 16) even though it will probably take longer and emotionally hurt a lot. I'm just really confused- it sometimes feels like being on an anti depressant is worse than just being depressed.
Posted by hog80ci on August 31, 2003, at 23:51:12
In reply to Jim, posted by lil' jimi on August 31, 2003, at 21:43:06
Hey Jim
No kidding! 30 yrs at UT?? Congrats...that's quite an accomplishment. I was stationed at Bergstrom back in the 80s. I loved Austin. One of my favorite places ever.
I'm excited and have a good amount of fear at the same time. The AF has been good to me and it's been an honor to serve. I've seen a lot of changes in the world and even been a part of some of them. I've met some incredible people.
On the other hand, I was married and divorced twice, missed a good part of my kid's lives and I've launched out airplanes that didn't come back. I've learned not to get too close to anyone because they always go away.
When the serzone burned out and another round of depression set in, a lot of what I was feeling came out sideways...I was angry and acted out from that space. Words are awfully powerful and I said some things I regret now. Anyway...enough complaining. It's been my life and I will miss it but I think new doors will open.
Thanks for your support. I guess we'll be going through this retirement thing together, eh? Take care my friend.
Jim
Posted by trucker on September 1, 2003, at 1:05:27
In reply to Re: SHAY AND LEXAPRO, posted by BLKVETTES on August 31, 2003, at 8:09:44
> > > Hi Trucker, that must have been real hard dealing with all that on your own. Like you say we all have a story or two. None of them happy ones. My oldest daughter is due within 30 days and the baby is turned the wrong way. She will get the latest picture here soon. If the baby has not turned I guess they do a c-section. Of course I worry about everything that could go wrong. Just my nature I guess!!!!!! I notice a lot of us that suffer have humor. I guess its our way of masking pain. You take care TRUCKER!!!!!!!!!
> > > WAYNE
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> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > I UNDERSTAND THIS WELL, FOR YEARS PEOPLE THOUGHT I WAS THE HAPPIEST INDIVIDUAL IN THE WORLD. YOU COULD BASICALLY HAND ME A PILE OF DOG SH-T AND I'D SMILE AT YA AND ASK WHERE YA WANTED IT. I DON'T HAVE ANY CLOSE FRIENDS DO TO OCCUPATION AND OF COURSE MY HANG UPS. PEOPLE GET TOO CLOSE AND REALIZE THERE IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT ME. BECAUSE I'M LIKE A ROCK. NOT EASILY SHAKEN "SO THEY THINK." I DON'T ALLOW THEM TO GET CLOSE. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT HURT ANY MORE. IF YOU READ ABOUT MY CHILDHOOD YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT I MEAN. ONE THING AFTER A NOTHER. LEX MAKES ME FEEL MORE LIKE I USE TO BEFORE MY MIND AND BODY CRASHED. I CAN THINK AND FUNCTION. AND HAVE JOYFUL SEX TOO... WE JUST DON'T LET ANY ONE GET TOO CLOSE SO THEY CAN'T SEE OUR PAIN AND WEAKNESS. AND IN THE END WE HURT OURSELVES BECAUSE WE ARE ALWAYS LONLY.
> > TRUCKER
> > A VERY LONELY JOB... NOT FOR SEX OR DRUGS OR ANY THING. JUST SOME ONE TO TALK TO AND PEOPLE YOU ENJOY BEING NEAR.
>
> Hi Trucker, thats one of the things Im grateful for is the return of my sense of humor. Yes it does protect me. Yes Im afraid to let people get to close to me for reasons you explain. You dont let people get close you cant get hurt right. Thats kind of sad though. Even on the computer I feel myself connecting with someone and I have to push myself away. I think if we keep going back and forth like this we will be redirected to psycho babble search for a friend match. LOL
> WAYNE
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if i can figure out how to get there that will be ok too. as for your reply, i understand, i keep a distance too, but it the end it only hurts us because we are missing on possible friends etc... experienceing joy of life, not just pain of life. lex has giving me a fight i had lost. i was giving up. and now folks round here don't want to mess with me cause im not passive no more. i am starting to fight for me alittle. thats lex and counsoling. lex has put me in the how dare you mood, cross the line and get stomped....
vilent but in control, only vilent when pushed.
in control, so don't worry...
trucker
man what a rush when you get angry, talk about the best speed, i can't sleep, and my teeth do pay. ha! ha!
Posted by trucker on September 1, 2003, at 1:16:37
In reply to Lexapro dosage questions? Why was I taking so much, posted by jc12578 on August 31, 2003, at 9:43:38
i'd try a different pdoc, sounds like you have a self centered quack on your hands!!!
trucker///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////> OK so I have been catching up after my week of torture(mostly self inflicted)...I am having horrible withdrawls from the lex...I have constant chills and my head is killing me...switching back to celexa...because I yelled at my psych till he said ok...not going to be on that poison..
>
>
> ANYWAYS...as I am reading through these posts I am looking at the dosages that you all are on...and I am wondering if there is a reason why I got started out at 30 mgs of lex a day when I see that most of you are on from 5-20...I know I am fat I weigh like 250...does that have something to do with it or is there some other reasons that I get such high doses...maybe I am being paranoid but is my condition more serious then they tell me or something...I mean I went up to 120 on the prozac...and i can NEVER get a straight answer from my psych...He thinks he is too smart for the world even tho my IQ is over 190 (GEEZ!!! I really despise that man...every session he says stuff like it's so nice to see that people have IQ's close to his..he's given me an IQ test twice...I really don't care that I can take tests well I just want to be normal again and not wake up every morning thinking I should be dead...OK gotta stop getting angry)..thank god he is leaving soon...anyone have any advice answers...would really appreciate it
Posted by trucker on September 1, 2003, at 1:37:31
In reply to stopping Lexapro... doctor wants me to try Zoloft, posted by collegekid on August 31, 2003, at 22:19:21
acording to my pdoc she says zoloft and lexapro are the same thing there is one extra ingreident in lex though. i went straight from zoloft to lex... in fact i took zoloft and lex at a reduced dose for a month so i didn't have the mental anxiety of switching. even though she said it was the same thing. i liked zoloft, but it killed my sex life...
good luck and take care
trucker///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////> I went to the doctor on Friday and read him my list of side effects (insomnia, loss of appetite, teeth clenching, feeling like a zombie, the shakes). And considering the semester started last Monday for my senior year in college, I really want to get these side effects under control, especially the insomnia. He told me to stop taking the Lexapro, wait two weeks, and then start Zoloft. Anyone have any expeience with this? I'm also thinking of just not taking the medication and continue working with the school counselor. I have a hunch it might be better for me to talk though my problems (molested by the babysitter's husband when I was 8, and drugged and raped by my best friend Matt when I was 16) even though it will probably take longer and emotionally hurt a lot. I'm just really confused- it sometimes feels like being on an anti depressant is worse than just being depressed.
Posted by galkeepinon on September 1, 2003, at 1:41:43
In reply to Re: stopping Lexapro... doctor wants me to try Zoloft » collegekid, posted by trucker on September 1, 2003, at 1:37:31
........friend's sex life too;)
Please dear high one-I don't wanna end up on that med then..............
> acording to my pdoc she says zoloft and lexapro are the same thing there is one extra ingreident in lex though. i went straight from zoloft to lex... in fact i took zoloft and lex at a reduced dose for a month so i didn't have the mental anxiety of switching. even though she said it was the same thing. i liked zoloft, but it killed my sex life...
> good luck and take care
> trucker
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> ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////> I went to the doctor on Friday and read him my list of side effects (insomnia, loss of appetite, teeth clenching, feeling like a zombie, the shakes). And considering the semester started last Monday for my senior year in college, I really want to get these side effects under control, especially the insomnia. He told me to stop taking the Lexapro, wait two weeks, and then start Zoloft. Anyone have any expeience with this? I'm also thinking of just not taking the medication and continue working with the school counselor. I have a hunch it might be better for me to talk though my problems (molested by the babysitter's husband when I was 8, and drugged and raped by my best friend Matt when I was 16) even though it will probably take longer and emotionally hurt a lot. I'm just really confused- it sometimes feels like being on an anti depressant is worse than just being depressed.
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Posted by melley on September 1, 2003, at 9:12:17
In reply to Re: so sleepy, posted by hog80ci on August 31, 2003, at 14:34:54
Thanks, everyone, for the input. I will wait awhile and see if the sleepiness goes away. Sleeping 12 hours the other night is so unlike me. I couldn't keep my eyes open at dinner and went to bed at 7:30 and slept til actually almost 8 the next day. I have too much to do in my life for that stuff and nonsense...a job as an editor (need to keep my eyes open for that), two boys--12 and 14, one of whom has problems with anxiety and is on celexa, and my parents are in their 80s and need help. Anyway, I will hang in there. I will try taking it at night. I don't see my doctor for another month and a half. The feedback on here is great! Thanks again.
> I'm getting a lot done around my house too. That actually feels pretty good because I really let a lot of things slide when I was in the "hole". I've been on Lex for 11 days, just went up to 20mg last Weds. I tell myself over and over that the ends justify the means in this case.
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> Sounds like you had a lot going on. It's good to know we can make it through stuff like that and not come apart at the seams. I'm retiring after 24+ years in the Air Force and there are a lot of feelings around that. It's really the only life I've ever known. Went through a divorce a while back then a pretty painful relationship. I don't do so well with abandonment. I agree with you...the support around here is great. I like reading about how people are "making it" every day. It also helps to know I'm not the only one who struggles, know what I mean?
> Take care
> Jim
Posted by postpartum mama on September 1, 2003, at 9:24:04
In reply to stopping Lexapro... doctor wants me to try Zoloft, posted by collegekid on August 31, 2003, at 22:19:21
Dear College Kid,
I have tried both Zoloft and Lexapro, and reported my list of side effects in another recent post. Go here to read my comparison of the two:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20030828/msgs/255961.html3 questions:
(1) How much Lexapro are you taking?
(2) How long have you been on it?
(3) What time of day do you take it?I take 5 mg in the early morning so I don't have a problem with insomnia at night.
Everyone has a different reaction to all of the drugs, so a lot of times it takes a trial and error approach to finding the best drug at the best dosage for you. From personal experience, I like Lexapro better than Zoloft.
Whatever you decide, please do not go off the Lexapro cold turkey!!! Make sure you reduce the dosage very slowly over several days, even weeks. The last thing you need right as school starts is drug withdrawal symptoms.
It's a tough call as to whether you're better off depressed than being on anti-depressants. It depends on the severity of your depression. I doubt I would have survived postpartum depression w/o anti-depressants.
Good luck and keep us posted!
> I went to the doctor on Friday and read him my list of side effects (insomnia, loss of appetite, teeth clenching, feeling like a zombie, the shakes). And considering the semester started last Monday for my senior year in college, I really want to get these side effects under control, especially the insomnia. He told me to stop taking the Lexapro, wait two weeks, and then start Zoloft. Anyone have any expeience with this? I'm also thinking of just not taking the medication and continue working with the school counselor. I have a hunch it might be better for me to talk though my problems (molested by the babysitter's husband when I was 8, and drugged and raped by my best friend Matt when I was 16) even though it will probably take longer and emotionally hurt a lot. I'm just really confused- it sometimes feels like being on an anti depressant is worse than just being depressed.
Posted by Mariposa on September 1, 2003, at 11:22:15
In reply to stopping Lexapro... doctor wants me to try Zoloft, posted by collegekid on August 31, 2003, at 22:19:21
> I went to the doctor on Friday and read him my list of side effects (insomnia, loss of appetite, teeth clenching, feeling like a zombie, the shakes). And considering the semester started last Monday for my senior year in college, I really want to get these side effects under control, especially the insomnia. He told me to stop taking the Lexapro, wait two weeks, and then start Zoloft. Anyone have any expeience with this? I'm also thinking of just not taking the medication and continue working with the school counselor. I have a hunch it might be better for me to talk though my problems (molested by the babysitter's husband when I was 8, and drugged and raped by my best friend Matt when I was 16) even though it will probably take longer and emotionally hurt a lot. I'm just really confused- it sometimes feels like being on an anti depressant is worse than just being depressed.
How long have you been taking, and how much?
First 2-3 weeks can be rough w/se, but after week 3, they taper off and usually go away by week 4-5. The benefits I have received were worth the suffering I went through w/se, and believe me I REALLY suffered.
Second, starting off at 5mg until you get through the se's is the way to go, then raise dose after your body gets used to the med.
Third, if you are going to stop, DO NOT go cold turkey. Even if you've only taken the med a week or 2, you WILL have BAD SE's if you just quit. Better to taper of VERY SLOWLY.
Fourth, if you've already taken Lex for 2 weeks, you should strongly consider continuing, as you may already be almost through the worst of it (SE'S).
Best of luck to you!~~~8|8
Posted by sassyveg on September 1, 2003, at 16:13:46
In reply to Re: Teeth Grinding on Lex., posted by hog80ci on August 30, 2003, at 12:01:38
ahhhh, bless this message board!!! i've just joined to ask about withdrawals, and have now discovered that my sudden habit of clenching my teeth might be associated with the lexapro! i never even thought to associate the two. even more reason to get off of it (in addition to the sexual side effects =( )
> Just to throw in my two cents worth. I grind my teeth on Lex too. Only been on the med for about 10 days and just went up to 20 from 10 this past Thursday. I find myself clenching my jaw all the time. I'm having a mouth guard made to wear at night because my jaw is really sore in the morning. We all just need to hang in there. From what I've read here the end effect will be worth it. Take care all...
> Jim
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