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Posted by linkadge on August 29, 2003, at 10:04:51
As I have been doing research into the topic i have found that the degree of depression is inversly related to the degree of yawning.
Most antidepressants increase yawning, and I read somewhere that yawning has a positive effect on serotonin and certain neuropeptides.
Infact, forcing yourself to yawn has a positive antidepressant effect.
If you can force - or not force yourself to yawn 100 times during the day, you will feel much better. Mentally sharper and more relaxed.
Yawning is linked to endorphins as well. I will look for some articals.
Linkadge
Posted by NikkiT2 on August 29, 2003, at 10:34:22
In reply to Depressed people don't yawn, posted by linkadge on August 29, 2003, at 10:04:51
Yay!! I'm obviously not depressed... my psychiatrist will be soooo happy
Nikki
Posted by Liligoth on August 29, 2003, at 20:15:23
In reply to Depressed people don't yawn, posted by linkadge on August 29, 2003, at 10:04:51
Linkadge that is quite fascinating! Until I read this I never noticed that there is a corellation but now I know I can look back & see it. Thanks for the interesting info
Posted by linkadge on August 30, 2003, at 6:29:34
In reply to Re: Depressed people don't yawn » linkadge, posted by Liligoth on August 29, 2003, at 20:15:23
Even normal people can yawn at will, a certain number of times. Depressed people on the other hand (especially irritable + depressed) have a really hard time yawning. They just can't initiate it.
Linkadge
Posted by HenryO on August 30, 2003, at 10:02:35
In reply to Depressed people don't yawn, posted by linkadge on August 29, 2003, at 10:04:51
They don't strech either.
Posted by Simcha on August 30, 2003, at 10:39:43
In reply to Re: Depressed people don't yawn, posted by linkadge on August 30, 2003, at 6:29:34
Ooooh! Thanks so much for that information. I thought I was the only one who was yawning more while receiving treatment. I really am in remission. I'm glad this is a good sign.
I'm a firm believer in breathing exercises. It seems that people in our culture tend to breathe more shallowly than in other cultures. Perhaps more air in the lungs is a great way of increasing both our health and our happiness.
Thanks so much!
Simcha
Posted by DSCH on August 30, 2003, at 10:56:44
In reply to Depressed people don't yawn, posted by linkadge on August 29, 2003, at 10:04:51
Research sparked by my response to your "red vision" mixed episode posts earlier this month? ;-)
Interesting, yes. But I wouldn't take it as the "Rosetta Stone" of mental illness just yet. ;-)
How are you doing, Link?
Posted by linkadge on August 30, 2003, at 11:45:06
In reply to Re: Depressed people don't yawn » linkadge, posted by DSCH on August 30, 2003, at 10:56:44
Actually I am on no meds at the current time.
I am surviving on a home built rTMS unit, a little fish oil, and tons of exercise.
I had somewhat of a manic episode (which I believe was not due to bipolar disorder but rather extreme stress and other factors) last year and I think the prolonged glutamate activity dammaged some of my visual neurons. I know its a paranoid little theory but hey. I'm taking a bit of a break off of antidepressants right now.
I am trying some other things. Its my summer break right now. It is somewhat risky in that I could lapse back into depression but I am going for tuns of exercise 3-4 hours a day. Eventually when school starts again I will probably need to go back on meds.
I built a rTMS device that I am using. I beleive it has some efficacy but only time will tell.
The exercise does seem to be clearing up my vision. As well, the time off of AD's (and exercise) is helping my sence of ballance. I get terrible dystonia and motion imballance on ssris.
I really want to try nardil because I had such an amazing responce to SJW (before poop out), but doctors won't prescribe it untill many other things have been tried.
Linkadge
Posted by DSCH on August 30, 2003, at 11:55:15
In reply to not too bad, posted by linkadge on August 30, 2003, at 11:45:06
Are you an electrical engineer or just REALLY handy at that sort of stuff?
When did you get the idea and how did you go about doing it?
Posted by linkadge on August 31, 2003, at 11:45:16
In reply to Building your own rTMS device! 8-o » linkadge, posted by DSCH on August 30, 2003, at 11:55:15
Actually, my father is an electrical engineer, and he gave me advice on some of the finer details.
Last time I gave out details on how I built it,
I got accused of trying to push someting on people that was perhaps dangerous.There are risks involved, such as lowering the seizure threshold.
Anyhow, its basically the combination of a computer and I high powered amplifier. I use sound editing software to generate the frequency through my sound card, then amplify the signal with the amp. I connect the coil to the speaker output (as thats all speakers are - electromagnets) and take if from there. The amp can easily burn out. With a few pysicis calculations, I determined coil size as well as the output volume on the amp - to determine the correct feild strenght.
Linkadge
Posted by DSCH on August 31, 2003, at 14:42:34
In reply to Re: Building your own rTMS device! 8-o, posted by linkadge on August 31, 2003, at 11:45:16
What lead you to the choice of location and frequency that you are using?
Posted by Steeler Tookahn on September 1, 2003, at 18:55:19
In reply to Re: Depressed people don't yawn, posted by HenryO on August 30, 2003, at 10:02:35
> They don't strech either.
FASCINATING.
I thought i was the only one who found that they stretch when the depression is in remission.
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