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Re: Straterra approval. » Shel Swartz

Posted by Viridis on August 2, 2003, at 18:22:48

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by Shel Swartz on August 2, 2003, at 15:54:08

I don't think that ADD/ADHD is a "made up" illness, although I suspect that it encompasses a variety of disorders. That's probably part of the reason why it (and many other mental illnesses) require a trial-and-error approach to medication, and frankly, I'm glad to see a range of meds available.

I have very mixed feelings about the pharmaceutical industry -- it is a business, and obviously they're out to make money, yet that provides the incentive to test new drugs and offer a wider range of options to patients. I remain very skeptical about their marketing techniques, however, and always try to educate myself as best I can.

I happen to benefit from Strattera and some other psychiatric meds and no, it isn't just placebo effect, any more than improvement with insulin could be labeled "placebo effect" for a diabetic. It really puzzles me how some people continue to make a distinction between "physical" ailments (heart disease, cancer, etc.) and "mental" ailments like ADD and depression, which are simply the result of the brain malfunctioning instead of some other part of the body. By this logic, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's syndrome, epilepsy, and so on must also be bogus, since they too originate within the brain.

There's a lot more that I could say, but I think that nearly everyone here is sufficiently experienced and open-minded to see the flaws in this argument.

By the way (to address the second point) a large study just released shows that doctors live longer on average than people in most other professions.

 

Re: Straterra approval.

Posted by Shel Swartz on August 2, 2003, at 18:48:07

In reply to Re: Straterra approval. » Shel Swartz, posted by Viridis on August 2, 2003, at 18:22:48

With all due respect, you should look at the Stratera information provided with the product. It states information shown in tests Lilly (the chemical manufacturer) conducted. See for yourself that many if the stated results are often not too far away from the "placebo" numbers.

If other countries watch our TV ads, they would see what a bunch of hypochondriacs we are!

My wife takes pills for her diabetes, and yes, they seem to work. But this ADHD nonsense started in the 1980s when teachers and parents wanted to make naturally-feisty kids growing up, calm down. Just make 'em shut up and sit down, 'cause the parents wpn't bother to discipine them, and the teachers cannot by law. And there were no other new diseases to treat.

My son was diagnosed with ADHD and drugs greatly affected him; at one point, the prescribed chemicals turned his face a bit yellow, and he developed stomach problems. I immediately stopped the chemical invasion, and he grew up from an 8-yaer-old with ADHD to a mature, smart, working young man. Just amazing!

I have ADHD and, being out of denial, recognize when my symptoms flare up. It is at that point when I need to concentrate and deal with them.. and I do so without the use of drugs.

My parents survuved the depression. Our generation is the finest crop of hypochondriacs and whiners so far.. and I admit to being just as bad some times.

For all the medications and so-called advances in science and technology, we ought to be living to the age of 100, regularly! My own physician - a friend of mine - still comes down with common colds. Other problems as well. How come with all our brilliant scientists and drug manufacturers?

Yes, some drugs work for many of us. but not all of us. We are the guinea pigs. People who do not live in inside the Land of Oz realize tat as long as the cost of lawsuits is less than the net profits of a company, then that company considers its products to be successful.

Let's not forget the highly-paid lobbyists those companies use to push their products onto the market as well.

The costs of development are part of the game. Any business has costs of developing an expansion. But the drug companies use that excuse to charge unprecedented amounts of money to patients or their insurance companies..... and in America, we tolerate that.

Ask your doctor how many gorgeous-looking sales reps keep pressing the doctor to recommend their products...

That, my friend, is reality. But I am very glad you pereceive that Stratera is working for you. All I suffered were negative side-effects.

 

Re: Straterra approval.

Posted by reba on August 3, 2003, at 0:26:59

In reply to Re: Straterra approval. » Shel Swartz, posted by Viridis on August 2, 2003, at 18:22:48

Ok ok, I read all about what you had to say shel swartz and I find it to be so rediculous that there is no reason to waste my time to defend myself, and many many others reading these replys who disagree with you. But I just had a little question, if you think that ADD is so made up, then why did you try to take strattera?

It's funny cause this makes me think of my old boyfriend who refused to see himself having ADD, although anyone educated on the topic could see that ADD was an issue for him right away, loved to argue the most rediculous points! He would take the most wrong idea and argue with anyone till he was right. This whole discussion quickly made me think of the proven theory that many people who have ADD unconsciously, based on brain-driven (not will-driven) mechanisms, play these types of ADD games as a way to boost their Adenaline and stimulate their frontal lobes. So, I just thought I'd give the readers another reason to laugh at how rediculous you sound. But hey youre entitled to your opinion just like the next guy, I'm just glad your not my dad, cause I actually am quite enjoying living up to my own potential! But goodluck to all my open minded friends who are still struggeling trying to figure out what works for them. I'd rather be a "guinea pig", who struggles through trial an error till their goal is met, than be the emotional mess that years of untreated ADD leads to.

I'd just love to say that if anyone is getting frustrated with figuring out how to best help an ADDer, or they are just plain skeptics to seriously purchase and read this book. I have recomended it before because I have read a number of books so as to get different viewpoints on the subject. It's amazingly helpful weather youre the ADDer yourself, or the parent, friend, or anyone else. It's called "Healing ADD The Breakthrough Program That Allows You to See and Heal the 6 Types of ADD" Daniel G. Amen, M.D.

 

Re: Straterra approval. » Shel Swartz

Posted by Viridis on August 3, 2003, at 1:43:26

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by Shel Swartz on August 2, 2003, at 18:48:07

There's still a tremendous amount to learn about how the brain works, so psychiatrists are pretty much stuck with trial and error (combined with intuition) when it comes to meds. Eventually, most people find the right one, or combination, but it's really not so different from the stage that cancer treatment is at. Things keep improving, diagnoses become more reliable, and more targeted approaches are being developed. We just don't have the "magic treatment" yet.

It's great that you can get past ADD without meds, but like a lot of problems, there are varying degrees of severity. If I get a headache, it's usually mild and goes away on its own. But for some people I know, a migraine can be serious enough to shut them down for a day or more. They need drugs for this; my headaches are mild enough that drugs (beyond the occasional aspirin) aren't necessary. ADD and other mental disorders probably follow a similar pattern, and not everyone can just wish their way out of them.

I doubt that most mental problems are anything new; in the old days, people just suffered with them, had miserable lives, and often didn't reach their potential. Now there are ways around that, with medications -- just like with diabetes. If you were a diabetic in the 1920s you probably didn't live that long; now people can live a long time with that and many other chronic illnesses. Medical treatment isn't all a scam, and this applies to psychiatry as well.

I don't think it's realistic to criticize the entire medical establishment just because there isn't a cure for everything. Viruses (like the common cold example you cite) are especially tricky, and it will take a lot of work to find ways to subdue them. But how many people do you see these days with polio, smallpox, tetanus, etc, compared to 50 or 100 years ago? And, before antibiotics, a simple infection could be fatal.

Things are improving on many fronts, but it's a bit much to expect perfection, then criticize all medical professionals because perfection hasn't been achieved.

 

Re: Straterra approval.

Posted by Kacy on August 3, 2003, at 11:56:09

In reply to Re: Straterra approval. » Shel Swartz, posted by Viridis on August 3, 2003, at 1:43:26

One of the Adhd profiles described my whole life. A sister brought me an article she had seen on it and said "This is you."

If I say I'm Adhd, am I triggering a lot of judgement? Is Adhd a disrespected condition?

Does anyone here have experience with that? Is it best to keep my mouth shut?

 

Re: Straterra approval.

Posted by CC67 on August 3, 2003, at 16:25:36

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by Kacy on August 3, 2003, at 11:56:09

Kacy,Hi, I find it better for me to use discretion
with who I tell anything.
I dont know if "adhd" is frowned upon,I believe from what I have picked up on that some of the "stims" are frowned upon.
I believe that if you can benifit from the use of medication and nutritional ect.. Then go for it and dont concern yourself ,if someone judges you.
I will add that strattera did not work for me ,however I have heard several posters who are happy with it.I think my personal decision to medicate has helped me considerably,along with lifestyle adjustments.
Yes it is a ongoing process . we must move forward in the right thinking process.When we stumble we recognize it and make the proper adjustment. Take care!! CC67

 

Re: Straterra approval. » Kacy

Posted by Viridis on August 3, 2003, at 18:22:25

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by Kacy on August 3, 2003, at 11:56:09

All "mental illnesses", ranging from ADD to depression to panic disorder etc. are frowned upon by some people. Some think they aren't real and just reflect character weaknesses, and others believe they're real but feel you're somehow flawed because of it. ADD/ADHD is a particularly sensitive one because many people are skeptical that such a condition exists, or think that it only applies to children.

So, the amount of discretion you exercise is really a matter of choice. Since (with a few exceptions) it's not anyone else's business, you can just choose not to say anything. Or, you can limit the information to a few trusted friends and family. I don't really care what people think about my ADD etc. -- the ones who judge me negatively probably aren't the type I'd want to socialize with anyway, and their opinions don't mean much to me. So, I'm pretty open about my condition, the meds I take, etc. if the subject comes up, although I don't see any reason to advertise it.

I think there is a rapidly-growing awareness of mental illness as real and treatable, and the stigma definitely is lessening. When I first took Prozac for depression about 12 years ago, I discovered a "secret society" of Prozac users who were extremely close-mouthed about it except with other users. Now, many of the people I work or socialize with talk openly about the antidepressants, antianxiety meds, and even ADD drugs they use. Sometimes this leads others to say things like "you don't need drugs to make you feel better" and so on, but that can be an opportunity to educate them. I ask what medications they take, and whether they could just wish their medical conditions away. Sometimes this has an impact, sometimes not. But by being open, I think it contributes to the growing awareness that mental illness and psychiatric meds aren't limited to crazy people.

This is just my choice -- again, you're not obligated to discuss your mental condition any more than your religious beliefs, political views, sexual orientation, etc. All of these are likely to lead to disapproval from someone. It just comes down to your comfort level, and how much you worry about other people's opinions.

 

Will put,Viridis !! CC67 (nm)

Posted by CC67 on August 3, 2003, at 20:34:46

In reply to Re: Straterra approval. » Kacy, posted by Viridis on August 3, 2003, at 18:22:25

 

Re: please be civil » Shel Swartz » reba

Posted by Dr. Bob on August 4, 2003, at 2:00:50

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by reba on August 3, 2003, at 0:26:59

> This product, like most others, was created by a chemical company hoping to make enough profits than the cost of lawsuits.

First, I'd like follow-ups regarding the pharmaceutical industry in general to be redirected to Psycho-Social-Babble.

> What you are feeling is a placebo effect. PERIOD!
>
> Shel Swartz

Also, please don't exaggerate or overgeneralize:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil

> Ok ok, I read all about what you had to say shel swartz and I find it to be so rediculous that there is no reason to waste my time to defend myself...
>
> reba

Please respect the views of others and be sensitive to their feelings. Please don't post anything that could lead them to feel accused or put down. Thanks,

Bob

PS: Follow-ups regarding posting policies, and complaints about posts, should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration; otherwise, they may be deleted.

 

Re: Straterra approval. » Shel Swartz

Posted by KimberlyDi on August 5, 2003, at 12:31:12

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by Shel Swartz on August 2, 2003, at 15:54:08

Try being a parent to an ADHD child. The disease is definately not made up. My son takes Ritilin only while in school. Without it, he's unable to concentrate. With it, he's a straight-A student. The only gift Ritilin gives my son is the ability to Focus instead of being distracted by his surroundings. I don't like that it takes a Stimulant to help him Focus. If Straterra does the same and isn't a stimulant, I'll be grateful to those *money hungry* people.

Sincerely,
KDi in Texas

> This product, like most others, was created by a chemical company hoping to make enough profits than the cost of lawsuits. Takng chemicals for ADHD (another disease made up by money-hungry pyschiatrists) is DANGEROUS. What you are feeling is a placebo effect. PERIOD!
>
> If the supposed doctors are sio learned, how come they get just as sick as everyone else, and die off just as we do?
>
> The motivation: MONEY.

 

Common Cold? » Shel Swartz

Posted by KimberlyDi on August 5, 2003, at 13:00:33

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by Shel Swartz on August 2, 2003, at 18:48:07

There is no cure for the *common* cold because there are hundreds-thousands mutated versions of it.

What in the world would provoke you to come into Psycho-Babble and tell us that our illnesses are perceived?

Your family came from the Depression era? Wow, so did mine! Ever heard of something called Evolution? We adapt to our ever-changing environment. Though once we struggled with manual labor, our hard work is now within our minds. Computers, electronics, requesting and providing information. It's an intellectual world out there. I know when something hampers my brain, it isn't perceived. I know when something fixes the problem too.

KDi in Texas

 

Re: Straterra approval. » Kacy

Posted by KimberlyDi on August 5, 2003, at 13:07:51

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by Kacy on August 3, 2003, at 11:56:09

kacy
My new boss asked me if I had ADHD. He thought it was great if I did. I'm a problem solver at work for a new computer system. I work best attacking problems from many different angles. My hyperactive thought process has me finding solutions every day. Some are discarded, but only when I think up of a better way.

It's nothing to be ashamed of.
KDi in Texas

 

Re: Straterra approval.

Posted by Kacy on August 5, 2003, at 13:30:23

In reply to Re: Straterra approval. » Kacy, posted by KimberlyDi on August 5, 2003, at 13:07:51

Thanks for your comments. I have been pretty open, but am going to be a little more careful since most people don't know what to say. Since they say little or nothing, I am not sure what they have been thinking.

I don't bring it up out of nowhere, but on occasion, it's the right thing to say. When your life is in flux, it's kind of hard to say who you are when you can't say what you do. I'll be glad when I'm working, again.

Hey, Kimberly, that's great. I know some of the issues are assets.

 

Re: Straterra approval.

Posted by readyforchange on August 5, 2003, at 13:35:31

In reply to Re: Straterra approval. » Shel Swartz, posted by Viridis on August 3, 2003, at 1:43:26

(I have two things...a question and a comment.) I have come to my wits end with my ADD. I was diagnosed at 17, and couldn't take the meds long enough (3days - half the battle is just remembering to take the pills) for them to work. Since then I have been trying to survive without taking perscriptions for my disorder, and in my opinion, I am now a mess. I just turned 25 and have sought out help, with the aid of meds, over the past two weeks....I have not taken anything yet, but Strattera is suggested. My doctor has said it would be best if I did some research before she prescibes it ( I find that very unusual, b/c doctors normally can't wait to write out perescriptions - but it makes me trust her.) I have allowed ADD to completely take over my life, but I won't babble on about that right now... my question is - does Strattera cause increases in appettite, or can I take something with it so I don't gain alot of weight (*because I know that will make me stop, or prevent me from starting to take it.) I don't have an eating disorder at all, 130ish 5ft 10- very normal, but I have a hard time not complusivly stuffing my face or procrastinating on excersise... I don't need it to get worse. Any insight would be helpful,thanks!

Oh, and a word to the infamous Mr.Shel Swartz... I was thinking that maybe the reason you and your child were able to overcome your issues with ADHD, was due to the fact that you were probably not a victim of the disorder to begin with. To write things that state, "it is all in your head, snap out of it," is very similar to the thinking of people without ADD. They don't get it... just like I probably haven't the slightest idea of how your brain truly functions...and I wouldn't assume to know. I do know that I am highly driven and motivated person, with an IQ of over 140(depending on which test you take) yet I have managed to destroy everything in my life path because of ADD. I would appreciate it if you would not try and take away my hope of a better tomorrow, because you want to prove to yourself and the rest of the world that you do not condone the capitalistic society in which you live. I agree that the US over medicates, and I do not support that. It is all about the dollar, true, but that does not mean that our conditions do not exsist. I was never allowed to take meds as a child, unless the situation was very serious...so I am not in the habit of popping pills.
Mr. Shwartz, you can run without athletic shoes, but not far- and your feet will wear out quickly, and I am sure that you function far better when you wear them...I bet you will most likely buy "a" pair, if not more. Isn't that the same basic principle? Why don't you write letters to the owners of Nike for praying on "the victims of sore feet everywhere," instead of mocking people for ther mental disorders? On the otherhand - possibly you do have this disorder. Someone may have given you the speeches like you are posting, and you became exhausted of defending yourself, so you switched sides. Maybe people were able and willing to give you the constant attention neccessary to overcome it, but it is a continuous proccess that doesn't just get better. I just think the world would be a more loving place if the bitterness, like you have displayed, did not exsist. I could go on and on... but I think you get my point, please feel free to reverberate on my posting. Best Wishes.


 

Re: Straterra approval.

Posted by Shel Swartz on August 5, 2003, at 14:15:28

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by readyforchange on August 5, 2003, at 13:35:31

Gosh, please re-read my posts. I never said it is all in one's head. I have ADHD and so does my son. It uis real. But I am saying that it has been taken advantage of by the chemical companies and doctors... and we as a people these days often (not always) want that "quick fix" instead of perseveringthrough a problem.

ADHD is real.. but we don't need ALWAYS to throw medicine into us. That's from experience... not conjecture.

 

Re: Straterra approval.

Posted by readyforchange on August 5, 2003, at 14:26:37

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by Shel Swartz on August 5, 2003, at 14:15:28

I did re-read your passage, and I appologize if I came across harshly...I sensed your anger in the responses from past postings, and had to say my piece. I tend to scimm things for the words I want to read (ah, the joys of ADD - not a bad name for a book- ha ha)I am just trying to fight my way right now in proving my worth. I think that I am not taken seriously because of my track record, when that alone should be my evidence... funny how the minds of those who are "ok" don't have the depth neccessary to understand our issues, a blessing and a curse. But I am sorry, we should not be enemies - I have similar views, and wish I had other methods... but for now, meds seem like the way through the fog, until I learn better how to deal with myself...hopefully.

 

Re: Straterra approval. » readyforchange

Posted by Kacy on August 5, 2003, at 15:40:30

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by readyforchange on August 5, 2003, at 14:26:37

Readyforchange: I got a great response from Wellbutrin after little more than three weeks on it. It affects the same thing Strattera does and also gives you the Adderal, Ritalin advantage without taking a stimulant. I would try that first.

I'm on Strattera because right after I got a great response from Wellbutrin, I got hives on top of hives with hives. So much for my magic bullet.

Strattera is very good, but I have a problem with its sedating effect which doesn't seem to be going away for me. For some others, it has gone away.

I use Effexor, too. The effects of untreated Adhd on your life can create other issues or you can just happen to have other issues. Effexor has helped.

Ask your doctor if a trial of Wellbutrin would be a good idea, since it addresses two issues in one.

My problem, though, is Adhd—not Add. That might make a difference.

 

Re: Straterra approval.

Posted by readyforchange on August 5, 2003, at 16:02:15

In reply to Re: Straterra approval. » readyforchange, posted by Kacy on August 5, 2003, at 15:40:30

kacy: thanks, I was prescribed wellbutrin originally, but it takes concentration just to take the damn stuff :) I will see what she says. I was curious if you keep any sort of behavioral journal, i would love to start one... the more i read, the more i learn how things the things that i do, have a connection to ADD, and are because of it - interesting.

 

Re: Straterra approval.

Posted by reba on August 5, 2003, at 17:40:31

In reply to Re: Straterra approval. » Shel Swartz, posted by KimberlyDi on August 5, 2003, at 12:31:12

Kimberly Di:

If youre satisfied with the results that you get from stims, then why change the meds just because of a label??! I recently went from taking strattera to taking Adderall, and the Adderall for me is soooo much better, but thats just me! The thing with strattera is it can take up to a few months to really see results, thats so hard for a student to deal with!!!!! I am also a student and the stress from waiting and not seeing great results really can throw a student, especially a student doing so well already!! Plus if your childs main problem is attention then stims are probably the best thing for him. (Ive done alot of research) The one thing that apealed to my about strattera was that it stabolized my moods and helped me not be so anxous, but the adderall ended up taking those away too!! All im saying is really think about it cause switching meds is SUCH a big deal for the person taking them, so if there is no problem why switch. Stimulants statistically have shown to be the best type of ADD treatment. If stims arent working, then DEF try something else. Just thought I'd put my two cents in, cause I am a college student and just went through all the stress of switching.

 

Re: Straterra approval.

Posted by reba on August 5, 2003, at 17:59:23

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by Kacy on August 5, 2003, at 13:30:23

I would def say be careful of who you tell about it. When I first realized I had ADHD, I talked a little bit with one of my professors about it, because he was wondering what was going on. I am an art student and this happened to be one of my favorite art professors, who I looked up to alot. He had a very negative reaction to it, and it really upset, and for a little while changed what I thought about ADD. This can be discouraging, and I'm sure his views were from miseducation on the topic. It all ended up ok though becuase I started reading all the books i could, to get as many differnt perspectives as possible to create my own opinion ont he subject. So I'd also say to be careful about who you tell, for not only the reason I listed but also people are very quick to judge as we all know!

Oh yeah and now that I seem to be getting ADHD under control I am realizing more and more the wonderful things that come alot with ADD not just the bad ones! People with ADD are tipically (and I did read alot about this as well as notice many attributes in myself)sensitive, empathic, creative, have unique perspectives, spontaneous, playful, fun to be around, humorous, energetic, looks past surface appearences to the core of people and things, original.... the list goes on and on!!!!! Just thought this might help some people who have such negative thoughts on ADD.

 

Re: Straterra approval.

Posted by reba on August 5, 2003, at 18:09:49

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by readyforchange on August 5, 2003, at 13:35:31

Viridis:
I was on strattera for 6 months and thats one of the things I liked most about the drug! I'm not saying I have weight problems becuase I dont, but I always ate compulsively!!!! Lucky for me I have a great metabolism! The one huge thing that i noticed was that I forgot to eat all the time!! there was no more eating Because I was bored, or stressed, or upset! I felt there was no need to compulsively eat after going on strattera! The only thing I would recomend to people on strattera would be to make sure they dont skip lots of meals becuase I found myself doing this and realized that it let to horrible moods in the late afternoon, and also me being tired. I'd say that this seems to be true in many people since ive been here reading all these posts for a while now! I'd also say that even adderoll was worse in the food catagory because on adderall when my short acting wears off I think I'm overly hungry sometimes. On strattera I could have probably skipped a few meals in a row with out really realizing it if Im busy enough. (but don't get any unhealthy ideas! lol) so goodluck!!

 

Re: Straterra approval.

Posted by readyforchange on August 5, 2003, at 18:23:29

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by reba on August 5, 2003, at 18:09:49

Viridis:
Thanks, that was my concern - I have always been naturally thin, but i eat when i am bored- or to give myself an excuse of being too full in place of focusing and working out, etc. Maybe I eat alot to give myself something subconciously to control? Who knows, I just haven't been able to get on a normal healthy diet b/c I compulsively pick fast foods ( microwave-able, quick) b/c cooking requires a long proccess... I can't wait until I am able to do all the things I want to do. If you have any other tips on how to manage the use of drugs, like just taking them( I have a hard time remembering to)that would be great.
Thanks for responding! Have you found this site helpful in growth, or has been a bit of an addiction/distraction too?

 

promises, promises

Posted by Lis on August 5, 2003, at 20:41:12

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by readyforchange on August 5, 2003, at 18:23:29

I've read that some people had positive experiences on Strattera and some people had absolutely no effects. When I started Strattera, I definitely felt it. I wrote about negative side effects on this site a while back, and I think that with each increase in dosage I’d get a surprise ‘adverse effect’ accompanying it. At the same time, I could get through a day at my summer job with enough energy and clarity (sigh.) to start to avoid those god awful, embarrassing social moments. Now I’m at my target dose, I’m ‘foggy’ all over again. It started off as something so promising! Is this (the here today, gone tomorrow thing) a common experience for people on most psych meds? Is it common for Strattera?

 

Re: Straterra approval.

Posted by worrier on August 5, 2003, at 21:20:47

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by Shel Swartz on August 5, 2003, at 14:15:28

> Gosh, please re-read my posts. I never said it is all in one's head. I have ADHD and so does my son. It uis real. But I am saying that it has been taken advantage of by the chemical companies and doctors... and we as a people these days often (not always) want that "quick fix" instead of perseveringthrough a problem.
>
> ADHD is real.. but we don't need ALWAYS to throw medicine into us. That's from experience... not conjecture.

> Just want to throw my 2 cents in here. Don't really have a dog in this fight as I don't have ADHD and I don't take sratterra, but I question you comment about the drug companies and doctors taking advantage of us. I'm sure there is alot of truth in what you say, but, my mother-in-law is alive today because of drugs that have treated her aggressive cancer and heart disease. We don't die of pneumonia and other diseases that killed our grandparents regularly and many people with ADHD, depression, bipolar disorder, panic disorder, etc. are able to live much more productive and pleasurable lives with the aid of medication. Everyone must make there own choice, if you elect to persevere through your problems and that works for you then more power to you. For some of us that isn't really an option. I persevered through my anxiety/panic disorder for nearly 20 years and it just about killed me. I guess I'm just suggesting that sweeping generalities should probably be avoided. Best to you, Worrier.

 

Re: Straterra approval. » readyforchange

Posted by Lasagne on August 5, 2003, at 21:37:27

In reply to Re: Straterra approval., posted by readyforchange on August 5, 2003, at 16:02:15

> Hi Ready for Change:
You may be interested in reading a book called
"Women with Attention Deficit Disorder" by Sari Solden. It really demonstrates how attentional disorders affect so many components of your being. After reading it, so many things that had happened to me in my life made sense.
Lasagna

kacy: thanks, I was prescribed wellbutrin originally, but it takes concentration just to take the damn stuff :) I will see what she says. I was curious if you keep any sort of behavioral journal, i would love to start one... the more i read, the more i learn how things the things that i do, have a connection to ADD, and are because of it - interesting.


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