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Posted by bernie3 on June 9, 2003, at 10:51:34
I have a question my wife is on klonopin for severe anxietyand I think she has been taking valium also but I have no proof of my suspicion other than she done it in the past.
Can a urinalysis determine the difference between klonopin and valium or are all benzos converted to valium in the bloodstream anyway?
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 9, 2003, at 11:47:14
In reply to Can a urinalysis determine the difference, posted by bernie3 on June 9, 2003, at 10:51:34
> I have a question my wife is on klonopin for severe anxietyand I think she has been taking valium also but I have no proof of my suspicion other than she done it in the past.
> Can a urinalysis determine the difference between klonopin and valium or are all benzos converted to valium in the bloodstream anyway?So, you'd like to have proof of what's really going on, e.g. abuse of her meds?
The short answer is that a routine urinalysis for benzos does not tell you which benzo was found. It's non-specific. That's not to say that a thorough testing of urine couldn't differentiate between some benzos, but the molecules appearing in the urine are identical in many cases. So they just screen for that one common molecule.
If you're looking for clear evidence, you need to get a blood sample analyzed. Valium has a very long half-life (around eight days). Klonopin undergoes a number of fairly rapid metabolic conversions that are unique.
Lar
Posted by bernie3 on June 10, 2003, at 21:41:12
In reply to Re: Can a urinalysis determine the difference » bernie3, posted by Larry Hoover on June 9, 2003, at 11:47:14
So am I to assume it is not able to find out thru a routine or any type of urinalysis?...............thanx in advance.
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 10, 2003, at 21:52:13
In reply to Re: Can a urinalysis determine the difference, posted by bernie3 on June 10, 2003, at 21:41:12
> So am I to assume it is not able to find out thru a routine or any type of urinalysis?...............thanx in advance.
A routine urinalysis will not answer your question. A definitive answer can come from blood work. A dedicated researcher may conceivably answer your question from a urine sample, but I'm not sure if that's really possible or not.
Lar
Posted by bernie3 on June 11, 2003, at 22:40:58
In reply to Re: Can a urinalysis determine the difference » bernie3, posted by Larry Hoover on June 10, 2003, at 21:52:13
alright thanks, I was under the impression that if a benzo showed up in a tox screen, that the sample was than analyzed to determine exactly what type of benzo it was. I assume I was mistaken?
Posted by kara lynne on June 12, 2003, at 14:54:19
In reply to Can a urinalysis determine the difference, posted by bernie3 on June 9, 2003, at 10:51:34
Hi bernie,
Am I the only one uncomfortable with the idea of you wanting your wife to take a urine test? Dumb question maybe, but have you tried talking to her? If she really does have a problem, what would the positive urine test accomplish?Just wondering.
Posted by stjames on June 12, 2003, at 16:22:50
In reply to Re: Can a urinalysis determine the difference, posted by kara lynne on June 12, 2003, at 14:54:19
> Hi bernie,
> Am I the only one uncomfortable with the idea of you wanting your wife to take a urine test?No, I feel that if you are to this point (covert testing), there
are far bigger issues than drug use.
Posted by bernie3 on June 12, 2003, at 22:16:32
In reply to Re: Can a urinalysis determine the difference, posted by kara lynne on June 12, 2003, at 14:54:19
She will not admit it. I just want some shred of evidence to confront her with. If I have no other proof thatn I really can't confront her.
Posted by bernie3 on June 12, 2003, at 22:17:44
In reply to Can a urinalysis determine the difference, posted by bernie3 on June 9, 2003, at 10:51:34
So does anyone else know if a positive urine sample for benzodiapine from say Labcorp or anywhere else can it be sent out for further testing to determine what type of benzo it contains? thanx in advance.
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