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Posted by utopizen on March 30, 2003, at 21:37:21
Lots of people on this board take an antipsychotic and an amphetamine. Since one antagonizes dopamine and the other agonizes(?) or whatever, is this a problem?
I read up on this 70's diet pill, Eskatrol ("Fool Button" song was about it). It was a phentoiazine (sp) and dexedrine in a single capsule. The idea was you'd lose weight and the antipsychotic would counter the amphetamine's irritable effects if they were present in the patient.
Taken off-market in the 80's due to widespread abuse, not to mention that taking a first-generation antipsychotic for weight loss is even less justifiable than taking an amphetamine for it, and this pill had both.
Posted by babs on March 31, 2003, at 18:43:27
In reply to AP with stim... smart idea?, posted by utopizen on March 30, 2003, at 21:37:21
I have found that the AP I'm on (2 mg risperdal) increases my need for a stim. I need more adderall on 1.5 mg risperdal than I needed on 1 mg. I just recently went up to 2 mg of risperdal and I am finding that I may need as much as 30 mg adderall (I was only taking 15 mg before). Other AP's like Abilify and Seroquel may not have this effect though according to the psychopharm I just saw. I would love to switch AP's but unfortunately, now is not a good time. Good luck, babs
Posted by cybercafe on April 1, 2003, at 0:17:31
In reply to Re: AP with stim... smart idea? » utopizen, posted by babs on March 31, 2003, at 18:43:27
> I have found that the AP I'm on (2 mg risperdal) increases my need for a stim. I need more adderall on 1.5 mg risperdal than I needed on 1 mg. I just recently went up to 2 mg of risperdal and I am finding that I may need as much as 30 mg adderall (I was only taking 15 mg before). Other AP's like Abilify and Seroquel may not have this effect though according to the psychopharm I just saw. I would love to switch AP's but unfortunately, now is not a good time. Good luck, babs
oh, do tell. how do zyprexa or geodon rank in terms of worsening ADD?
Posted by utopizen on April 1, 2003, at 4:46:55
In reply to Re: AP with stim... smart idea?, posted by cybercafe on April 1, 2003, at 0:17:31
Risperdal and others can cause mental dulling in some (Risperdal wouldn't let me read a sentence that I could comprehend). Abilify, which I was one for 2 weeks, did not affect my Adderall dosing. In fact, it compelled me to want to organize things more.
Posted by cybercafe on April 1, 2003, at 17:33:11
In reply to Re: AP with stim... smart idea?, posted by utopizen on April 1, 2003, at 4:46:55
> Risperdal and others can cause mental dulling in some (Risperdal wouldn't let me read a sentence that I could comprehend). Abilify, which I was one for 2 weeks, did not affect my Adderall dosing. In fact, it compelled me to want to organize things more.
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>oh... but you stopped because of akathisia?
Posted by cybercafe on April 1, 2003, at 17:34:04
In reply to Re: AP with stim... smart idea?, posted by utopizen on April 1, 2003, at 4:46:55
> Risperdal and others can cause mental dulling in some (Risperdal wouldn't let me read a sentence that I could comprehend). Abilify, which I was one for 2 weeks, did not affect my Adderall dosing. In fact, it compelled me to want to organize things more.
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>btw... you're not bipolar right? you were taking the antipsychotics for OCD? .... does abilify work as well as others for OCD?
Posted by utopizen on April 1, 2003, at 18:11:35
In reply to Re: AP with stim... smart idea?, posted by cybercafe on April 1, 2003, at 17:34:04
> btw... you're not bipolar right? you were taking the antipsychotics for OCD? .... does abilify work as well as others for OCD?
>I stopped because of akathsia, but I might go back on one if my new doc feels like it, if he combines it with Klonopin. I only have social anxiety and ADD.
Posted by cybercafe on April 1, 2003, at 20:44:52
In reply to Re: AP with stim... smart idea?, posted by utopizen on April 1, 2003, at 18:11:35
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> > btw... you're not bipolar right? you were taking the antipsychotics for OCD? .... does abilify work as well as others for OCD?
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> I stopped because of akathsia, but I might go back on one if my new doc feels like it, if he combines it with Klonopin. I only have social anxiety and ADD.have you heard any treatments for akathisia? i think someone mentioned propanolol, but i'm not sure
any idea what percentage of people quit due to akathisia?
Posted by utopizen on April 1, 2003, at 21:07:05
In reply to Re: AP with stim... smart idea?, posted by cybercafe on April 1, 2003, at 20:44:52
> have you heard any treatments for akathisia? i think someone mentioned propanolol, but i'm not sure
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> any idea what percentage of people quit due to akathisia?
>I popped some Neurontin that day, but it required dosing at a dose that was high enough to cause somnolence and cognitive "slowness" in me (800 mg).
I'm sure Klonopin could handle it.
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