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Posted by cybercafe on February 7, 2003, at 19:40:42
my doc says i should take an atypical antipsychotic otherwise ritalin could cause psychosis
i am wondering if its possible to take something else to prevent psychosis instead (mood stabilizer?)
ug ... what do most bipolars do?
Posted by one_little_victory on February 7, 2003, at 21:54:24
In reply to stimulants and psychosis, posted by cybercafe on February 7, 2003, at 19:40:42
> my doc says i should take an atypical antipsychotic otherwise ritalin could cause psychosis
>
> i am wondering if its possible to take something else to prevent psychosis instead (mood stabilizer?)
>
> ug ... what do most bipolars do?
>If I am correct and I may not be, I don't think bipolars should be taking pstimulants. I will have to research it more.
Posted by cybercafe on February 7, 2003, at 21:58:45
In reply to Re: stimulants and psychosis » cybercafe, posted by one_little_victory on February 7, 2003, at 21:54:24
> > my doc says i should take an atypical antipsychotic otherwise ritalin could cause psychosis
> >
> > i am wondering if its possible to take something else to prevent psychosis instead (mood stabilizer?)
> >
> > ug ... what do most bipolars do?
> >
>
> If I am correct and I may not be, I don't think bipolars should be taking pstimulants. I will have to research it more.
>ummm. what do you do if you suffer from ADD as well as bipolar?
Posted by one_little_victory on February 8, 2003, at 0:13:22
In reply to Re: stimulants and psychosis, posted by cybercafe on February 7, 2003, at 21:58:45
> ummm. what do you do if you suffer from ADD as well as bipolar?
Yes I know what you are saying, but just that the research seems so fuzzy with these to combined conditions. I have read in a few places both antipsychotics and mood stabalizer can complicate ADD symptoms. But nothing was really solid and conclusive.
My guess would just be to try the augmenting of both an atypical antipsychotic and and slow gradual upward dose of a pstimulant, but with a lot of caution. It's just for your sake, that is all I am saying this for. We all react so differently and I hesitate to make universal statements that a person must react a certain way to a medication. Slipping into mania has been living hell for me and I wouldn't wish it on any single living person or thing. Hope that does help.
Posted by linkadge on February 8, 2003, at 17:42:19
In reply to Re: stimulants and psychosis » cybercafe, posted by one_little_victory on February 8, 2003, at 0:13:22
What meds do you take ?
while shouldn't cause psychosis in normal
people, they make create a mania like psychosis,
as dopamine can do this. SSRI's tend to create
a euphoric mania while some of the others
wellbutrin and stims can cause psychotic mania.Whatever you do be careful and prudent.
Good luckLinkadge
Posted by cybercafe on February 9, 2003, at 17:10:30
In reply to Re: stimulants and psychosis, posted by linkadge on February 8, 2003, at 17:42:19
> What meds do you take ?
zyprexa 2.5 mg, ritalin sr 40 mg, clonazepam 1.5 mg
> while shouldn't cause psychosis in normal
> people, they make create a mania like psychosis,
> as dopamine can do this. SSRI's tend to create
> a euphoric mania while some of the others
> wellbutrin and stims can cause psychotic mania.ritalin definately gives me a temporary high that precedes calm and focus
same with caffeine ... i'm not sure that "high" isnt what normal people (who can concentrate) feel all the time>
> Whatever you do be careful and prudent.
> Good luckthanks...
i'm not taking my two ritalin pills at the same time anymore, and find myself a lot more stable (up)
i'm surprised my doc didn't suggest this
Posted by cybercafe on February 9, 2003, at 17:19:13
In reply to Re: stimulants and psychosis » cybercafe, posted by one_little_victory on February 8, 2003, at 0:13:22
>
> Yes I know what you are saying, but just that the research seems so fuzzy with these to combined conditions. I have read in a few places both antipsychotics and mood stabalizer can complicate ADD symptoms. But nothing was really solid and conclusive.
i'm curious... is there much difference in how much mood stabilizers effect ADD vs. antipsychotics?
and is there a big difference between different mood stabilizers and different antipsychotics?
for example, someone just wrote to me that geodon has more of a stimulating effect
thanks for the reply :)
cybercafe
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