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Posted by fuzzymind on December 9, 2002, at 8:18:56
I remember my former shrink mentioning SSD, I think that is what is is called.It's disability payment, which I could get since my dad has been paying into the social security system for a long time. SHe couldn't tell me how much I could possibly obtain and she said it took a long time to apply. In a therapy session, we started the application by phone to the local social security office, and forms were sent to my house, but I never filled them out. That was a couple of years ago. Anyone here on disability for social anxiety, and how much can you get?
Thx
Posted by utopizen on December 9, 2002, at 18:36:24
In reply to Social Security Disability for social anxiety?, posted by fuzzymind on December 9, 2002, at 8:18:56
> That was a couple of years ago. Anyone here on disability for social anxiety, and how much can you get?
>
> ThxUm, why? You can't work? Have you tried Valium or something?
I've heard some people claiming like Klonopin doesn't treat their anxiety. Like, um, I'm not sure that's possible. What if you were to take a bottle full, would you still be anxious? I just can't believe someone could still be anxious with a benzo. Oh well. Then just try a barbituate, for heaven sakes... try something.
Posted by Alii on December 9, 2002, at 19:38:11
In reply to Re: Social Security Disability for social anxiety?, posted by utopizen on December 9, 2002, at 18:36:24
> > That was a couple of years ago. Anyone here on disability for social anxiety, and how much can you get?
> >
> > Thxfuzzymind,
I do not know about SSD but am sure that someone out there will turn up a link or point you in the right direction. There are lots of government sites online that have quite a bunch of information regarding disability, unemployment, and other such situations. Good luck.
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> Um, why? You can't work? Have you tried Valium or something?
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> I've heard some people claiming like Klonopin doesn't treat their anxiety. Like, um, I'm not sure that's possible. What if you were to take a bottle full, would you still be anxious? I just can't believe someone could still be anxious with a benzo. Oh well. Then just try a barbituate, for heaven sakes... try something.
>Now as for utopizen....where do you get off flippantly wondering if someone were to take a bottle full (sic)how could they still have anxiety? I find your answer most offensive and not supportive in the slightest. If I am somehow missing the supportive parts of your post feel free to repost and clarify.
--Alii
Posted by OddipusRex on December 9, 2002, at 20:31:51
In reply to Social Security Disability for social anxiety?, posted by fuzzymind on December 9, 2002, at 8:18:56
Here are some good links.
http://psycom.net/depression.central.ssd.html
I think disability is based on a person's ability to work not on a specific diagnosis. If someone is getting benefits based on his parents earning record, the parent must be recieving benefits himself. The disabled child gets a percentage of the amount the parent gets-I'm not sure what that percentage is. The disabled child must also have been disabled before the age of 18 or possibly 21, I'm not sure.
Is anyone getting disability for social anxiety? Probably, but they might not be willing to respond for fear of getting critical responses. I think you deserve a lot of credit for taking the risk of posting about yourself so frankly.
If you are not able to deal with SS directly maybe your parents would be willing to help. Or perhaps get in touch with the former shrink? NAMI, if there is a local branch you can contact, probably has people who are familiar with SS disability . I realize it is easier to make these suggestions than to act on them. I wish you well.
Posted by utopizen on December 9, 2002, at 20:54:18
In reply to Re: Social Security Disability for social anxiety? » utopizen, posted by Alii on December 9, 2002, at 19:38:11
> Now as for utopizen....where do you get off flippantly wondering if someone were to take a bottle full (sic)how could they still have anxiety? I find your answer most offensive and not supportive in the slightest. If I am somehow missing the supportive parts of your post feel free to repost and clarify.
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> --Alii
>
I'm just trying to help this guy out he obviously can make more money employed than collecting some social security check.There's drugs out there that work. If it's the difference between not having a job and having one, then yeah, maybe it is justified that one go on a barbituate. Since like a quarter of America went on them back in the day, why is he not justified?
Heck, if even that failed, I'd give him injectable bottles of Dilaudid if I was his doc. Or at least Vikodin. No one deserves to let social anxiety cripple their life.
Posted by susan C on December 9, 2002, at 20:58:41
In reply to Re: Social Security Disability for social anxiety?, posted by OddipusRex on December 9, 2002, at 20:31:51
http://www.ssa.gov/disability/
This can get you started on line...I have also found the local office to be extremely helpful, you may find that to also be the case.
My own experience was completing the forms was difficult, however I was approved with in the minimum period (six months or so). The amount was based on the amount I paid in while working.
I do not know enough to answer your questions directly, I would call the 1-800 number, or your local Social Security office...the phone number will be on line or in your phone book.
Good luck.
Posted by judy1 on December 10, 2002, at 10:21:38
In reply to Social Security Disability for social anxiety?, posted by fuzzymind on December 9, 2002, at 8:18:56
I get SSD for bipolar and panic disorders- actually my shrink told me the anxiety spectrum has the greatest number of people on SSD than any other psychiatric disorder. That being said, I went through Alsup? I think?, a group of attornies who specialize in SSD. My children collect 1/2 of my payment because they are under 18. If you have worked and paid into social security then your payment would be based on your earnings if you are over 18- it varies considerably. I worked for over 12 years and have proven quite treatment resistant, I am grateful that I have this money to care for myself and family until I am able to work and don't feel guilty in the least. best of luck and any other questions please feel free to ask, judy
Posted by oracle on December 10, 2002, at 18:19:10
In reply to Social Security Disability for social anxiety?, posted by fuzzymind on December 9, 2002, at 8:18:56
> I remember my former shrink mentioning SSD, I think that is what is is called.It's disability payment, which I could get since my dad has been paying into the social security system for a long time.
It will have nothing to do with what dad paid in.
Nor does paying in mean they have to pay you. Contact the SS office and get an appointment
so you fully understand all of this.
Posted by oracle on December 10, 2002, at 18:21:46
In reply to Re: Social Security Disability for social anxiety?, posted by oracle on December 10, 2002, at 18:19:10
> > I remember my former shrink mentioning SSD, I think that is what is is called.It's disability payment, which I could get since my dad has been paying into the social security system for a long time.
>
> It will have nothing to do with what dad paid in.
> Nor does paying in mean they have to pay you. Contact the SS office and get an appointment
> so you fully understand all of this.I should of said "If you are 18"
Posted by utopizen on December 10, 2002, at 20:31:14
In reply to Re: Social Security Disability for social anxiety?, posted by oracle on December 10, 2002, at 18:21:46
You say you're treatment resistant. What do you feel like when you take 3 or 4 mg of Klonopin? Nothing? I'm just curious. Do you also not feel out of balance when you start such a med?
Have you tried Valium as well? I mean, there's a lot of treatments, and benzos are by no means the last thing to try. They still have not made barbituates "obsolete" for cases such as yours, as such an idea is ludicrious if you tried hi doses of benzos and it hasn't worked.
I would suggest Seconal. If your p-doc is helping you fill out paperwork for disability check, well, that's like your GP helping you find what coffin looks best for you instead of actually trying more approaches so you can still live a bit longer.
You should bring up trying Vikodin or Percodan with your p-doc. If she's hostile, I 'd switch and go to a research hospital. Sounds like you need a team of research docs. There would be a mutual relationship there, so even if you don't have insurance, they may be able to work something out. They love working on challenging cases and using exploratory approaches.
I strongly advise you bring up injectable Dilaudid as a potential treatment as well. I think your case is severe enough for it, so any p-doc who'd rather keep you in your house and away from living a quality life all in the name of "addiction prevention" is not looking out for what's most appropriate for your clinical needs.
How did you initially respond to barbituates? I don't mean to be frank, but you're going to have a hard time explaining how you are "treatment-resistant" if you haven't tried a gold-standard in anxiety treatment yet.
Posted by judy1 on December 10, 2002, at 22:28:43
In reply to Re: Social Security Disability for social anxiety?, posted by utopizen on December 10, 2002, at 20:31:14
if so, I have been on perhaps 40 different drugs in various combinations along with alternative therapies. My shrink is part of a famous research institute and I have seen the top 3 specialists in bipolar disorder in the U.S. That is what I mean by treatment-resistant.
Posted by utopizen on December 11, 2002, at 6:42:45
In reply to was this directed at me » utopizen, posted by judy1 on December 10, 2002, at 22:28:43
> if so, I have been on perhaps 40 different drugs in various combinations along with alternative therapies. My shrink is part of a famous research institute and I have seen the top 3 specialists in bipolar disorder in the U.S. That is what I mean by treatment-resistant.
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No, Judy! Of course not! We all know how hard it is to treat bipolar!!I was referring to treatment-resistant anxiety patients, of whom I am one. And I am CERTAINLY not referring to the patients themselves, really, but their doctors-- we all know if someone is posting to this board, they're trying their earnest to treat their illness. It's the doctors I'm concerned over in not finding different approaches.
Posted by vickisnowwhite on December 11, 2002, at 13:03:25
In reply to Social Security Disability for social anxiety?, posted by fuzzymind on December 9, 2002, at 8:18:56
> I remember my former shrink mentioning SSD, I think that is what is is called.It's disability payment, which I could get since my dad has been paying into the social security system for a long time. SHe couldn't tell me how much I could possibly obtain and she said it took a long time to apply. In a therapy session, we started the application by phone to the local social security office, and forms were sent to my house, but I never filled them out. That was a couple of years ago. Anyone here on disability for social anxiety, and how much can you get?
>
> ThxHi. i'm on ssd because of a nervous breakdown/depression last year. I quess i was a real case cause i applied and got accepted in just 2 months. Since i worked so long, and had a long history of seeing psychs and on lots of medications,i quess thats why i got it so fast. lots of paperwork involved but its worth it if you can get it. and the payment is enough for me to get by on.
Posted by Aadika on December 11, 2002, at 15:51:08
In reply to Social Security Disability for social anxiety?, posted by fuzzymind on December 9, 2002, at 8:18:56
Just a quick response: I applied through MHMR and received a call three weeks later to meet with a social worker downtown (which, having untreated avoidant personality disorder at the time was QUITE the undertaking). Five minutes talking to her and I was approved for $367 / month and also Medicaid. I know I'm receiving a relatively small amount, but I'm still living with my parents- obviously they took that into consideration.
~ Aadika
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 11, 2002, at 17:38:06
In reply to Re: Social Security Disability for social anxiety? » fuzzymind, posted by Aadika on December 11, 2002, at 15:51:08
> I applied through MHMR and received a call three weeks later to meet with a social worker downtown...
I guess this thread should be redirected to Psycho-Social-Babble, too, so we can stay focused on medications here, thanks...
Bob
PS: And follow-ups regarding posting policies should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 14, 2002, at 11:40:58
In reply to Redirect: Social Security Disability, posted by Dr. Bob on December 11, 2002, at 17:38:06
> PS: And follow-ups regarding posting policies should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.
Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20021206/msgs/33340.html
Bob
Posted by Alara on December 17, 2002, at 1:43:26
In reply to Re: Social Security Disability for social anxiety?, posted by utopizen on December 9, 2002, at 18:36:24
> >> Um, why? You can't work? Have you tried Valium or something?
>
> I've heard some people claiming like Klonopin doesn't treat their anxiety. Like, um, I'm not sure that's possible. What if you were to take a bottle full, would you still be anxious? I just can't believe someone could still be anxious with a benzo. Oh well. Then just try a barbituate, for heaven sakes... try something.
>
>Utopizen, you were only trying to help Fuzzymind with your advice, but please note that I personally found your tone to be a little sarcastic and hurtful. You don't know Fuzzymind's full story and you ought to bear this in mind.
BTW, an employee who is zonked out on half a dozen benzos does not create a good impression.
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