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Posted by jaby on October 22, 2002, at 16:37:34
I would like to hear anyone's experiences. I'm sick of being in this half ass well state and have completed the cammon and then not so common list of meds. I know PS is supposed to reduce cortisol levels and affect the HPA system, so from a theoretical standpoint it makes sense. Thanks!
Posted by Pfinstegg on October 22, 2002, at 21:53:06
In reply to Anyone use phosphatidylserine?, posted by jaby on October 22, 2002, at 16:37:34
I am!
Pfinstegg
Posted by jaby on October 23, 2002, at 10:00:13
In reply to Re: Anyone use phosphatidylserine? » jaby, posted by Pfinstegg on October 22, 2002, at 21:53:06
Uh, can I get a little more info please?
> I am!
>
> Pfinstegg
Posted by Pfinstegg on October 23, 2002, at 17:00:24
In reply to Re: Anyone use phosphatidylserine?Pfinstegg, posted by jaby on October 23, 2002, at 10:00:13
I'm afraid I don't have much information to give. I included it because it is supposed to lower cortisol- (mine is very high), so I've added everything I can find which is supposed to lower it. I also take alpha-lipoic acid, Omega-3's, SAM-e and tianeptine. I feel a lot better, but I can't say for sure which of these is helping, or whether they all are! I'm pretty sure the phosphadatylserine is safe (I take 100 mg.), and, if nothing else, it supports good brain metabolism.
Sorry not to be able to be more specifically helpful,
Pfinstegg
Posted by Rick on October 25, 2002, at 0:42:20
In reply to Anyone use phosphatidylserine?, posted by jaby on October 22, 2002, at 16:37:34
I've tried this expensive supplement several times in an attempt to boost short-term memory. I didn't really expect it to work, though, and if memory serves (see what I mean?), it didn't.
I felt like maybe I got some added antianxiety benefit from it, but that could have been a placebo effect.
In the Italian study where Phosphatidylserine was shown to reduce cortisol, the cortisol increase that was attenuated was exercise-induced, and there was no reduction in individuals taking less than an extremely large (and extremely expensive) 800 mg dose. Also, I believe this study, like most on phosphatidylserne, used the cow-brain-derived variety. The currently avalable soy-based products may have similar effects, but that hasn't been proven.
Might be worth a shot, though. This seems like a pretty safe and side-efect-free supplement (don't know about 800 mg, though...).
Rick
> I would like to hear anyone's experiences. I'm sick of being in this half ass well state and have completed the cammon and then not so common list of meds. I know PS is supposed to reduce cortisol levels and affect the HPA system, so from a theoretical standpoint it makes sense. Thanks!
Posted by linkadge on October 25, 2002, at 18:49:25
In reply to Re: Anyone use phosphatidylserine? » jaby, posted by Rick on October 25, 2002, at 0:42:20
I've also been searhing for meds
to reduce cortisol levels. The only
ones I've found in research are
megadoses vitamin C and CLA. I
only read that CLA could possibly
reduce high cortisol levels.
Has anyone else seen studies on this ?Linkadge
Posted by Rick on October 25, 2002, at 21:47:06
In reply to CLA and cortisol, posted by linkadge on October 25, 2002, at 18:49:25
> I've also been searhing for meds
> to reduce cortisol levels. The only
> ones I've found in research are
> megadoses vitamin C and CLA. I
> only read that CLA could possibly
> reduce high cortisol levels.
> Has anyone else seen studies on this ?
>
> Linkadge
>No, but there's plenty of evidence that if you drink, reducing alcohol consumption will lower cortisol levels.
Also, intravenous magnesium sulphate lowers cortisol levels, but I'm sure not suggesting that route!
Finally, while there are some contradictory studies, it appears that chromium might play a role in cortisol reduction. Here are just s few of the many abstracts you'll find if you enter the terms chromium and cortisol in the Medline search box:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8454546&dopt=Abstract
Rick
Posted by Rick on October 25, 2002, at 22:00:03
In reply to Re: CLA and cortisol » linkadge, posted by Rick on October 25, 2002, at 21:47:06
Oops, let's not forget Ginkgo:
Suggestion: If you haven't already done so, go to Medline, click on Limits and choose Complementary Medicine. Then enter cortisol in the search box, and you might find some other supplements that can purportedly reduce cortisol.
Rick
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