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Re: PMDD:Acne,diet help!

Posted by svevo1922 on November 23, 2001, at 15:32:30

In reply to Re: PMDD:Acne,diet help!, posted by Annie1962 on January 31, 2001, at 1:38:32

If you haven't found relief yet, in addition to whatever else you're doing, I would make an appointment with a cosmetically oriented dermatologist. Such doctors are often expensive and not all of their services are covered by insurance but they are the ones who will take your problem seriously, whereas a more traditional dermatologist, especially one who is dominated by HMO's may think, "so what, a little bit of cystic acne, she doesn't have skin cancer?"

having a disfiguring, if not life-threatening condition on your face is no fun and you should not feel guilty about wanting to try to control it.


> Hi Everyone,
>
> I just finished reading threads from the beginning and did not see any mention of acne as one of the many symtoms. Does anyone else experience all of the symptoms with the addition of painful cystic acne, my skin is clear for 10 days and then my cycle hits and I develope a 3rd eye or extra chin, which is filled with fuild and grows to the size of a marble? I have always had Problems with my cycle since I started at age 11, the acne didn't start until after my 1st child at age 27. I did have thyroid problems and had a total thyroidectomy last June, now on a combo of T3 and T4. My symptoms seem to be getting worse with each passing month and many Doctors later I still suffer 20 days out of the month. I have been to Shrinks, Gyns, Internists, all with their own theories and prescribtions, but to no avail. I have even been told that "God helps those who help themselves" or my favorite, " Your acne is caused because you don't like yourself". Ten days out of each month I'm the greatest Mom, Wife, Friend etc. and I like myself, it's when Dr. Jekyl meets Mr. Hide that all heck breaks loose.
>
> Has anyone tried a total Vegan diet? Or any other natural remedies >
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ann >
>
> Hi Jules,
> >
> > Run, do not walk, to the nearest bookstore (or hop on Amazon.com) and buy the recent book by Valerie Davis Raskin, MD, called:
> >
> > When Words are not Enough: the Women's Prescription for Depression and Anxiety. (New York: Broadway Books, a division of Bantam/Doubleday/Dell, 1997)
> >
> > From the blurb on the back: "Valerie Davis Raskin is one of the nation's leading experts on the impact of psychiatric drugs on women. A Clinical Associate Professor at the University of Chicago, she is the co-author of This Isn't What I Expected, a guide to postpartum depression..."
> >
> > Specifically for you, Jules, is Ch. 11, "I want to have a baby: guidelines for medication use during pregnancy." Her main points are that: you shouldn't assume you have to choose between alleviating your illness and having a baby, that many medications for depression and anxiety (also used for what you have - PMDD) do not appear to increase the baseline risk of physical birth defects, that studies have neither proven nor disproven the possibility of harmful effects of medications on the developing fetal brain, etc.
> >
> > She recommends that each woman's situation be considered on a case by case basis, balancing untreated illness with the so-far theoretical risks of taking medication while pregnant. She says also that cultural biases against women with emotional illnesses becoming mothers makes women wait far too long to report problems to their doctors in the first place. And then they don't get the treatment they should because doctors tell them to hold out for as long as they can against medication...
> >
> > So Jules, you're doing really well to find out all you can beforehand and make the best decision for you and your family. In my personal opinion, and please don't take this the wrong way, it's not fair either to your husband or for your new baby to have a wife or mother who's at her wit's end for 3 weeks out of 4. Heck, it's not fair to you! And if you feel so out of control that you feel you can't drive safely, it's a very REAL risk to yourself and your infant. That would be enough for me to get the medication necessary. Your OB/GYN should be able to refer you to a good psychiatrist or psychopharmacologist who can answer your questions and prescribe you something, if you choose that route.
> >
> > My own depression developed while I was pregnant, and Raskin talks about this in detail, too. Amazing how our bodies and chemistries are all so varied!
> >
> > All the best, and let us know how it turns out for you in your search for some answers...
> > B.
> >
> >
> > > Hi. This is my first time posting a message anywhere on the internet but I really need some answers.
> > > I am 28 years old and have been suffering these terrible symptoms since I was about 12.
> > > I'll never forget how one day I woke up and all of a sudden had no self confidence, began having panic attacks, couldn't control my temper and overall was just not a happy person.
> > > I guess I should start on how I found this message board.
> > > My husband and I just had our first child in June of 2000 (which since I was pregnant I have had none of those feelings).
> > > We would like to start trying to have another so I went to the doctor to see if there was any way to tell whether or not I was ovulating(I've been breast feeding exclusively until about a month ago--now only twice a day).
> > > I still have not menstruated since I got pregnant but those awful feelings are back and surprise, surprise, yesterday I got my period.
> > > While I was at the doctors I described the awful emotional turmoil I go through every month due to my period (my husband jokes that he only gets one good week out of me a month because I begin acting crazy two weeks before and the week of).
> > > He didn't come out and say that he thought it was PMDD but he gave me some samples of Celexa to try.
> > > I wanted to do some research before I began taking them because my doctor said there wasn't enough literature out to say whether or not it's safe to take while trying to get pregnant (but there are no studies showing negative effects).
> > > Reading through some other message boards I became extremely scared due to all the awful side effects that people were experiencing.
> > > I am a Masters student in exercise physiology so I know the benefits of exercise and eating healthy.
> > > However, I know there is some chemical imbalance within me (and I have always known but everyone told me I was just sensitive)and exercise and diet alone is just not enough.
> > > The past 17 months have been wonderful due to not having to deal with this but these past couple weeks have been brutal(on myself and on my husband).
> > > Could someone please tell me what they know of the available drugs out there that may not interfere with me getting pregnant or while being pregnant(I feel if I do not do something that I will not be able to become pregnant just due to stress)?
> > > I do have to say that I feel so much better finally knowing that this has been something that I couldn't control and that there ared others who are dealing with these issues as well.
> > > It is amazing how disruptive it can be to your life and relationships.
> > > On one of the boards someone was talking about that they even need to be driven around by someone else when this happens.
> > > And it's funny because I told my husband yesterday that I should not have been in the car because I was out of control.
> > > Well I'll be looking forward to hearing some news.
> > > Thank you.
> > > Jules
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi. This is my first time posting a message anywhere on the internet but I really need some answers.
> > > I am 28 years old and have been suffering these terrible symptoms since I was about 12.
> > > I'll never forget how one day I woke up and all of a sudden had no self confidence, began having panic attacks, couldn't control my temper and overall was just not a happy person.
> > > I guess I should start on how I found this message board.
> > > My husband and I just had our first child in June of 2000 (which since I was pregnant I have had none of those feelings).
> > > We would like to start trying to have another so I went to the doctor to see if there was any way to tell whether or not I was ovulating(I've been breast feeding exclusively until about a month ago--now only twice a day).
> > > I still have not menstruated since I got pregnant but those awful feelings are back and surprise, surprise, yesterday I got my period.
> > > While I was at the doctors I described the awful emotional turmoil I go through every month due to my period (my husband jokes that he only gets one good week out of me a month because I begin acting crazy two weeks before and the week of).
> > > He didn't come out and say that he thought it was PMDD but he gave me some samples of Celexa to try.
> > > I wanted to do some research before I began taking them because my doctor said there wasn't enough literature out to say whether or not it's safe to take while trying to get pregnant (but there are no studies showing negative effects).
> > > Reading through some other message boards I became extremely scared due to all the awful side effects that people were experiencing.
> > > I am a Masters student in exercise physiology so I know the benefits of exercise and eating healthy.
> > > However, I know there is some chemical imbalance within me (and I have always known but everyone told me I was just sensitive)and exercise and diet alone is just not enough.
> > > The past 17 months have been wonderful due to not having to deal with this but these past couple weeks have been brutal(on myself and on my husband).
> > > Could someone please tell me what they know of the available drugs out there that may not interfere with me getting pregnant or while being pregnant(I feel if I do not do something that I will not be able to become pregnant just due to stress)?
> > > I do have to say that I feel so much better finally knowing that this has been something that I couldn't control and that there ared others who are dealing with these issues as well.
> > > It is amazing how disruptive it can be to your life and relationships.


> > > On one of the boards someone was talking about that they even need to be driven around by someone else when this happens.
> > > And it's funny because I told my husband yesterday that I should not have been in the car because I was out of control.
> > > Well I'll be looking forward to hearing some news.
> > > Thank you.
> > > Jules

 

Re: PMDD - Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder » Cal

Posted by shia on February 18, 2002, at 19:37:31

In reply to Re: PMDD - Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder, posted by Cal on May 12, 2000, at 16:17:12

To Cal: I just read your message and it breaks my heart. I know exactly what you and your wife are going through. At the age of thirteen, when I had my first period, I noticed that I had mild mood swings. They got worse a year later. My parents sent me to several psychiatrists assuming my "problem" was your basic teenage rebellion. My parents and I had noticed that my mood swings were related to my menses. A week before my period I'd have extreme outbursts of anger,lots of energy (even though I would sleep for two hours per night)and a general feeling that I was out of control. The week of my period I would be severely depressed (sometimes suicidal), trouble concentrating plus a bunch of other emotional and physical symptoms. For the other two weeks of my cycle I was normal. The doctors all said that my mood swings had absolutely no relation to my period. I was diagnosed as manic depressive at the age of fourteen and was immediately sent to a psychiatric hospital for four and half months. I was put on various combinations of drugs, some that left me in a ghost like stupor. But I kept having the mood swings. Over a year ago I saw a talk show about PMDD. The first woman on the panel said she was diagnosed as a manic depressive during her late teens and had taken many different types of medication to no avail. She was finally diagnosed with PMDD in her forties. To think that this woman had to suffer for two decades astounds me. It is not right that your wife, myself and god knows how many women had to suffer simply because there is not enough research and information or that doctors don't care enough to dig deeper when patients complain of various symptoms. All the information I have found were on the internet and in holistic medical books. If you would like any recommendations or would like to chat please feel free to e-mail me at shiapet715@aol.com. I am 25 now and although I spent a decade of my life treating a disorder (manic depression) that I did not have instead of PMDD is upsetting. But I take comfort in knowing that I am no longer alone and now for the first time in my life I look forward to my future and each upcoming month with hope instead of dread. I wish you and your wife my best wishes and good health.
Sincerely,
Shia

 

Re: PMDD - Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder

Posted by shia on February 21, 2002, at 16:31:07

In reply to PMDD - Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder, posted by Jan on March 1, 1999, at 10:54:47

hi tina lynne. I wanted to let you know that your doctor is right that certain foods can make the symptoms worse. PMS and PMDD are usually caused by excessive levels of estrogen and in adequate levels of progesterone. Hormonal fluctuations lead to retention, which affects circulation, reducing the amount of oxygen reaching the uterus, ovaries, and brain. Eating red meat and dairy products may cause or contribute to such a hormonal imbalance. Dairy products block the absorption of magnesium and increase its urinary excretion. Refined sugars also increase magnesium excretion. Caffeine is linked to breast tenderness and is a central nervous system stimulant that can make you anxious and jittery. It also acts as a diuretic and can deplete many important nutrients. A great protein alternative is rice and beans,when you combine the two it has compounds similar to protein find in meats. Nuts are also high in protein. I hope this info provides you with help and much needed relief.
shia

 

Re: PMDD so many questions » Jules726

Posted by Mia2002 on March 6, 2002, at 14:58:44

In reply to PMDD:So many questions!, posted by Jules726 on January 27, 2001, at 19:14:46

I'm 20 years old and I have been suffering with severe Pms since I was 14. It begins up to two weeks before my period starts. When I was 15 the doctor put me on birth control to help the symptoms but they never went away. Many people say I'm just sensitive however, the things I go through around my period are simply unacceptable to me. I snap out, when normally I am a very upbeat and happy person. I can not control crying, I'm become over emotional. My family laughs about it but it has become more severe the older I get. Recently I told the doctor about this he suggested Sarafem for PMMD. Besides birth control I've never taking medicine on a daily basis. Actually I've always been kind of against it. However, I agreed and have been taking it for 3 weeks. There have been no signs of PMS now. No one knew I was getting my period, my mood stayed the same. I guess I'm happy but I'm just skeptical about this drug. I feel as though it’s basically period-Prozac. That’s what I've been calling it. If anyone has any advice or just want to let me know of any future side effects please write back.... Thank you.
My side effects have consisted of: not getting a good night sleep, diarrhea, night sweats, yawning very often and lack of appetite.

 

PMDD-sarafem disaster

Posted by Tuck on August 23, 2002, at 14:57:19

In reply to Re: PMDD - Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder-long » Sunnie, posted by akrake on August 15, 2001, at 12:53:57

I have been reading through these messages all day hoping I have found some answers. I am at my whits end. I have three kids, am 34 years old and have been miserable for the last year and a half. Prior to that I was either pregnant or on the pill. Since then I have always suffered my worst pms the week after my period. (the moodiness part of it anyways) The uncontrollable eating is the week before. I went to the doctor with a card that I had torn out of a magazine about Sarafem. He (who is always in a hurry) gave me some samples to try and hurried me out of his office. This was in Feb. 2001. I took the Sarafem for not even a week and had a herrible reaction to it. It was the 2nd week in Feb. and I was driving to the mall with my 2 year old. I felt like I was going to pass out, sort of. Like I couldn't concentrate on driving. I had a hard time speaking and basically felt really out of it. Well the whole thing was chalked up to side effects of the drug and I quit taking it obviously! But, I still have the same problems around the middle of the month.(2 weeks into my cycle) I have to have someone drive me places, I feel like I am spacing out....
This has been going on for a year and a half now and I don't think a weeks worth of Sarafem can mess you up that bad, but now that I read some of the other messages about concentration and driving I am wondering if I do have PMDD. I didn't think I needed the Sarafem for the depression. I have a great hubby and kids and I am not at all depressed. Confused maybe! I have been to many doctors. I have had an EEG of the brain and a MRI done, both were read as normal. My big thing is that these spells (so to speak) are always in the middle of the month......
If anyone out there has any info. I would love to hear it!!!!
Kathy

 

Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster

Posted by katekite on August 23, 2002, at 16:45:12

In reply to PMDD-sarafem disaster, posted by Tuck on August 23, 2002, at 14:57:19

Have you seen an endocrinologist?

Kate

 

Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster

Posted by nikioct73 on August 23, 2002, at 20:02:22

In reply to Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster, posted by katekite on August 23, 2002, at 16:45:12

Sarafem...is Prozac in a purple jacket to make it 'female friendly'.....and NOT the greatest med for PMDD...Did you OB/GYN prescribe this for you or was it your PCP..you might need to try something else...good luck

 

Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster

Posted by Tuck on August 23, 2002, at 20:20:59

In reply to Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster, posted by nikioct73 on August 23, 2002, at 20:02:22

> Sarafem...is Prozac in a purple jacket to make it 'female friendly'.....and NOT the greatest med for PMDD...Did you OB/GYN prescribe this for you or was it your PCP..you might need to try something else...good luck


My family Dr. gave it to me. My OB/GYN thought I was having panic attacks.... Which I know wasn't true.. Do you think my symptoms describe PMDD? I thought depression was a big part of PMDD? I don't have that at all. Just this weird head/brain thing...

 

Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster

Posted by polarbear206 on August 23, 2002, at 20:58:24

In reply to PMDD-sarafem disaster, posted by Tuck on August 23, 2002, at 14:57:19

> I have been reading through these messages all day hoping I have found some answers. I am at my whits end. I have three kids, am 34 years old and have been miserable for the last year and a half. Prior to that I was either pregnant or on the pill. Since then I have always suffered my worst pms the week after my period. (the moodiness part of it anyways) The uncontrollable eating is the week before. I went to the doctor with a card that I had torn out of a magazine about Sarafem. He (who is always in a hurry) gave me some samples to try and hurried me out of his office. This was in Feb. 2001. I took the Sarafem for not even a week and had a herrible reaction to it. It was the 2nd week in Feb. and I was driving to the mall with my 2 year old. I felt like I was going to pass out, sort of. Like I couldn't concentrate on driving. I had a hard time speaking and basically felt really out of it. Well the whole thing was chalked up to side effects of the drug and I quit taking it obviously! But, I still have the same problems around the middle of the month.(2 weeks into my cycle) I have to have someone drive me places, I feel like I am spacing out....
> This has been going on for a year and a half now and I don't think a weeks worth of Sarafem can mess you up that bad, but now that I read some of the other messages about concentration and driving I am wondering if I do have PMDD. I didn't think I needed the Sarafem for the depression. I have a great hubby and kids and I am not at all depressed. Confused maybe! I have been to many doctors. I have had an EEG of the brain and a MRI done, both were read as normal. My big thing is that these spells (so to speak) are always in the middle of the month......
> If anyone out there has any info. I would love to hear it!!!!
> Kathy


Kathy,

You could have an underlying mood disorder, I had
some of the same problems starting mid cycle. Confusion, lethargy, concentration problems. some antidepressants can exacerbate underlying mood disorders. Prozac and sarafem are the same drug. I couldn't take prozac at all. The week after my period was worse also until I started taking Lamictal in addition to my antidepressants. Make sure you have your thyroid checked before starting
any drugs for depression and bipolar disorders. I hope this info helps.

Laura

 

Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster

Posted by nikioct73 on August 23, 2002, at 21:34:23

In reply to Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster, posted by Tuck on August 23, 2002, at 20:20:59

Hey..decribe what happens...and prozac is an AD and not an antianxity med..PMDD is a very serious thing...and depression is a huge part..Weird head brain thing?...have you seen a neurologist??

 

No periods-no PMS

Posted by Gracie2 on August 23, 2002, at 21:46:42

In reply to Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster, posted by polarbear206 on August 23, 2002, at 20:58:24


I'm 42 and haven't had to deal with periods or PMS for almost 9 years now. It's wonderful.
I would recommend Nor-plant or the Depro-Provera
injection to anyone who doesn't want more children. I've heard rumors (prehaps unfounded)
that anyone who uses either of these birth control methods may have trouble concieving later on. This wasn't a concern for me.
I've also talked to women who said that not having periods "isn't right", is "unnatural", and in one instance, would make her feel "less of a woman." I find this astonishing...look at all the "unnatural" things we women subject ourselves to, from Botox to birth control pills to vaccines.
As far as long-term health concerns, I have regular GYN check-ups and, after 9 years on Norplant/Depro, I'm quite healthy.
It's amazing to me why any woman would subject herself to the mess, the mood swings, the water retention and all the other horrors of periods and PMS when this is no longer necessary, not to mention the pregnancy scares when you "slip up".
I'd never go back to all that.
-Gracie

 

Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster

Posted by Tuck on August 24, 2002, at 8:32:04

In reply to Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster, posted by nikioct73 on August 23, 2002, at 21:34:23

> Hey..decribe what happens...and prozac is an AD and not an antianxity med..PMDD is a very serious thing...and depression is a huge part..Weird head brain thing?...have you seen a neurologist??

I am seeing a neurologist on Monday. Although, my EEG and my MRI have came back normal. When I am having one of my middle of the month hardships it is like I am out of it. My head feels like it is not attached. When I am driving it freaks me out because I can't concentrate on the road. I get real warm and usually fan myself and sometimes feel a little neauseated. I try to blink to clear my head and I always have a headache in the back of my head. Which is followed by a few days of a bad headache. Then the next week I feel completely like myself again. Until that is, I get bitchy because it is pms time!!! Every other blood test I have had (including thyroid) has came back normal. Except for an ANA test that for me is always elevated.
These things that I have at the middle of the month have gotten so bad that I call my husband or my mom to come over. I have never lost consiousness during one though...

 

Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster

Posted by Tuck on August 24, 2002, at 8:58:30

In reply to Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster, posted by polarbear206 on August 23, 2002, at 20:58:24

> > I have been reading through these messages all day hoping I have found some answers. I am at my whits end. I have three kids, am 34 years old and have been miserable for the last year and a half. Prior to that I was either pregnant or on the pill. Since then I have always suffered my worst pms the week after my period. (the moodiness part of it anyways) The uncontrollable eating is the week before. I went to the doctor with a card that I had torn out of a magazine about Sarafem. He (who is always in a hurry) gave me some samples to try and hurried me out of his office. This was in Feb. 2001. I took the Sarafem for not even a week and had a herrible reaction to it. It was the 2nd week in Feb. and I was driving to the mall with my 2 year old. I felt like I was going to pass out, sort of. Like I couldn't concentrate on driving. I had a hard time speaking and basically felt really out of it. Well the whole thing was chalked up to side effects of the drug and I quit taking it obviously! But, I still have the same problems around the middle of the month.(2 weeks into my cycle) I have to have someone drive me places, I feel like I am spacing out....
> > This has been going on for a year and a half now and I don't think a weeks worth of Sarafem can mess you up that bad, but now that I read some of the other messages about concentration and driving I am wondering if I do have PMDD. I didn't think I needed the Sarafem for the depression. I have a great hubby and kids and I am not at all depressed. Confused maybe! I have been to many doctors. I have had an EEG of the brain and a MRI done, both were read as normal. My big thing is that these spells (so to speak) are always in the middle of the month......
> > If anyone out there has any info. I would love to hear it!!!!
> > Kathy
>
>
> Kathy,
>
> You could have an underlying mood disorder, I had
> some of the same problems starting mid cycle. Confusion, lethargy, concentration problems. some antidepressants can exacerbate underlying mood disorders. Prozac and sarafem are the same drug. I couldn't take prozac at all. The week after my period was worse also until I started taking Lamictal in addition to my antidepressants. Make sure you have your thyroid checked before starting
> any drugs for depression and bipolar disorders. I hope this info helps.
>
> Laura

Laura, what is Lamictal?

 

Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster

Posted by polarbear206 on August 24, 2002, at 10:37:27

In reply to Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster, posted by Tuck on August 24, 2002, at 8:58:30

> > > I have been reading through these messages all day hoping I have found some answers. I am at my whits end. I have three kids, am 34 years old and have been miserable for the last year and a half. Prior to that I was either pregnant or on the pill. Since then I have always suffered my worst pms the week after my period. (the moodiness part of it anyways) The uncontrollable eating is the week before. I went to the doctor with a card that I had torn out of a magazine about Sarafem. He (who is always in a hurry) gave me some samples to try and hurried me out of his office. This was in Feb. 2001. I took the Sarafem for not even a week and had a herrible reaction to it. It was the 2nd week in Feb. and I was driving to the mall with my 2 year old. I felt like I was going to pass out, sort of. Like I couldn't concentrate on driving. I had a hard time speaking and basically felt really out of it. Well the whole thing was chalked up to side effects of the drug and I quit taking it obviously! But, I still have the same problems around the middle of the month.(2 weeks into my cycle) I have to have someone drive me places, I feel like I am spacing out....
> > > This has been going on for a year and a half now and I don't think a weeks worth of Sarafem can mess you up that bad, but now that I read some of the other messages about concentration and driving I am wondering if I do have PMDD. I didn't think I needed the Sarafem for the depression. I have a great hubby and kids and I am not at all depressed. Confused maybe! I have been to many doctors. I have had an EEG of the brain and a MRI done, both were read as normal. My big thing is that these spells (so to speak) are always in the middle of the month......
> > > If anyone out there has any info. I would love to hear it!!!!
> > > Kathy
> >
> >
> > Kathy,
> >
> > You could have an underlying mood disorder, I had
> > some of the same problems starting mid cycle. Confusion, lethargy, concentration problems. some antidepressants can exacerbate underlying mood disorders. Prozac and sarafem are the same drug. I couldn't take prozac at all. The week after my period was worse also until I started taking Lamictal in addition to my antidepressants. Make sure you have your thyroid checked before starting
> > any drugs for depression and bipolar disorders. I hope this info helps.
> >
> > Laura
>
> Laura, what is Lamictal?
>
>


Kathy,

Lamictal is a mood stabilizer used to treat bipolar disorders. Many anticonvulsants are used for bipolars. What is so great about this drug is that it acts as a mood stabilizer/antidepressant. It is also being used for severe pmdd. pmdd and bipolar mood disorders mimmick each other as far as some of their symptoms. So pmdd can look like bipolar and bipolar can look like pmdd. This can be very confusing for a proper diagnosis. Track you moods with a calandar every month. Write down what symptoms you are experiencing. You need to see a psychiatrist and not your regular primary care doctor.

Laura.


 

Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster

Posted by Thump on September 30, 2002, at 9:21:00

In reply to Re: PMDD-sarafem disaster, posted by Tuck on August 24, 2002, at 8:32:04

> > Hey..decribe what happens...and prozac is an AD and not an antianxity med..PMDD is a very serious thing...and depression is a huge part..Weird head brain thing?...have you seen a neurologist??
>
> I am seeing a neurologist on Monday. Although, my EEG and my MRI have came back normal. When I am having one of my middle of the month hardships it is like I am out of it. My head feels like it is not attached. When I am driving it freaks me out because I can't concentrate on the road. I get real warm and usually fan myself and sometimes feel a little neauseated. I try to blink to clear my head and I always have a headache in the back of my head. Which is followed by a few days of a bad headache. Then the next week I feel completely like myself again. Until that is, I get bitchy because it is pms time!!! Every other blood test I have had (including thyroid) has came back normal. Except for an ANA test that for me is always elevated.
> These things that I have at the middle of the month have gotten so bad that I call my husband or my mom to come over. I have never lost consiousness during one though...
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Those symptoms sound like they may be related to a little blood sugar problem, perhaps a hypoglycemic episode. My blood sugar gets a little more difficult to keep in check during PMS for whatever reason. However, I have been tested and do not have diabetes. It's not that severe. It can cause me to have hot flashes, get nauseated, dizzy, get the shakes, lose concentration, get headaches and generally feel like I'm having some kind of out-of-body experience. It's not fun. I can also get beligerant and irrational if I do not eat something and get it leveled out quickly. Try eating several small meals a day during that time. Don't let yourself skip breakfast or get overly hungry and see if that helps. Also, I was prescribed Sarafem for PMDD and it has really worked well for me. For the first week I felt a little "dopey" and I didn't drive either. I could just tell that wouldn't be a good idea. But those symptoms are gone now and I am just starting my third week with it. So far so good. I'm feeling like my old normal self again.

 

Re: PMDD - Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder

Posted by erica on November 11, 2002, at 22:13:09

In reply to Re: PMDD - Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder, posted by shia on February 21, 2002, at 16:31:07

there are great new PMDD meds: Celexa and Lexapro (they are enantiomers.) They are practically devoid of side effects. I've been using Celexa for about 6 months for PMDD and have found it to relieve most of my symptoms. I'm changing to Lexapro to try and totally eliminate ALL the minor side effects (remember, they are enantiomers.) To treat the adult PMS related acne, however, I think I'll try low-dose spironolactone...

 

Re: PMDD - Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder

Posted by Purrkitty on April 7, 2003, at 13:52:21

In reply to PMDD - Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder, posted by Jan on March 1, 1999, at 10:54:47

I am 34 and have been diagnosed with PMDD almost 2 summers ago. I have been taking Sarafem, which has been working well.

 

pmdd » Emily B.

Posted by pmddmom on June 25, 2003, at 22:44:52

In reply to Re: I'm scared, posted by Emily B. on March 29, 2001, at 23:07:23

Just wanted to add that I am someone who has suffered from pmdd for 20 years. It used to be one week before my period. Over time, it got longer and more intense so that finally it was 2 weeks out of the month. And I not only felt depressed and irritable, I also felt rageful and miserable. I tried taking Sarafem last year, but just for the 2 weeks before my period. All I felt were side effects and none of the positive effects. Now I am a mother and have even less time to put my life on hold 2 weeks out of the month. Plus, my monthly rages and depressions were beginning to threaten my marriage and preventing me from being the mother I so wanted to be. So I talked to my current gynecologist about my situation. He told me that Sarafem doesn't work when taken only for 2 weeks out of the month because it takes 2 weeks for the side effects to diminish and the positive effects to take hold. So, in essence, all I ever experienced were side effects without the relief. So I decided to give Sarafem another chance. Mostly because I was desperate. I had tried all the "natural" remedies, such as B-12, low-sodium diet, no alcohol, no caffeine, etc. But nothing really made me feel better, because the real culprit was a lower concentration of seratonin. And the problem only worsens with age and after pregnancies. After 3 months of taking 20 mg. of Sarafem daily, I am a new person. I feel like a "normal" person. I spent my entire young life just accepting that I would always have to plan my life around my period. It was an amazing experience to go on vacation with my in-laws, during the thick of my pms and have a wonderful time. I kept waiting to feel exasperated, annoyed, even rageful. And it never happened. I am a better wife, a better mother, a better friend, and a better person because of Sarafem. I know I sound like a commercial, but after suffering for 2 decades, I feel like I'm finally able to live a happy, normal life. I can't recommend it enough. It's tragic that shame and fear keep us from getting treatment. But it should give you hope to know that it's out there. Any any gynecologist you go to should know about this because the AMA recently sent out a memo to all gynos to tell them that Sarafem is indicated for pmdd, along with guidelines for diagnosing it. As for sideeffects, I do feel more tired some of the time. And I have noticed that I have less interest in sex, but I'm certainly not anorgasmic. I still have great sex with my husband, it just takes a little longer for me to orgasm. But my husband is more than happy to be patient with me. After all, without the Sarafem, we had a guaranteed fight once a month, which meant no sex anyway :) And as for being tired, I was much worse off when I was depressed 1/2 the month. Anyway, that's my story. I hope it helps someone.

 

Re: pmdd

Posted by mel32 on June 27, 2003, at 21:53:30

In reply to pmdd » Emily B., posted by pmddmom on June 25, 2003, at 22:44:52

I think I have PMDD. I am a raging lunatic 2 weeks before my period. I am 32 and I have a 5 year old son. I have had PMS as long as i can remember, but it has definitely gotten worse since marriage and childbirth. I was wondering if anyone out there has similar symptoms; I feel extreme rage, depression and hopelessness 2 weeks before period. The rage is very scary to me. This past month I was physically abusive to my husband, and I felt completely out of control. I didn't actually hurt him, but I threw things at him that could have injured him. I literally was like The Hulk , in that it felt like I was possessed, and only exhaustion would free me of the rage I felt. Please let me know if you have any similar horror stories. Depression is also a huge thing for me, but I could handle that more than my craziness being directed at someone else. Even though I've felt suicidal many times, I know that eventually, it will pass. Please write!

 

Re: pmdd

Posted by pmddmom on June 30, 2003, at 19:52:24

In reply to Re: pmdd, posted by mel32 on June 27, 2003, at 21:53:30

Just wanted to say that I completely relate. I, too, am 32 years old. I have a son, who's 11 months old, and I have suffered from pmdd for many years. What you are experiencing is exactly what I have struggled with for 20 years now. But, like you, it became much worse with marriage and childbirth. For me, taking Sarafem, which is a low dose of prozac, has given me great relief during those 2 weeks prior to my period. I still feel a little down and little bit more touchy the week before my period. But it is mild and manageable. Before that, I would fly into rages and scream at my husband and baby. I felt such intense rage that I felt like I hated my husband 2 weeks out of the month and then spent the other 2 weeks feeling guilty for how I had treated him. I still try to get a lot of female support, take long walks, deep breathe, exercise and eat right. But none of those things helped before I started the medication. My brain chemistry was just too imbalanced during that time of the month. Now i feel much more stable and balanced. But I still feel like myself. I hate to think of what my life might have been like if i hadn't found this treatment. It can't hurt to ask your doctor about it.

 

Re: pmdd

Posted by Edgefield on September 3, 2003, at 19:28:50

In reply to Re: pmdd, posted by pmddmom on June 30, 2003, at 19:52:24

I just found this thread after doing a search for PMDD support group. I was diagnosed with PMDD several years ago, and since that time I've also been diagnosed with anxiety disorder. Like so many other women, all of this started after I had my first child. Prior to giving birth I would breeze through the months :)

I know that many women have found relief with Sarafem, but I can not tolerate SSRIs. I'm presently taking Wellbutrin SR. I would like to hear from others who are dealing with PMDD, and especially those who have found relief.

Thanks alot!

Edgefield


> Just wanted to say that I completely relate. I, too, am 32 years old. I have a son, who's 11 months old, and I have suffered from pmdd for many years. What you are experiencing is exactly what I have struggled with for 20 years now. But, like you, it became much worse with marriage and childbirth. For me, taking Sarafem, which is a low dose of prozac, has given me great relief during those 2 weeks prior to my period. I still feel a little down and little bit more touchy the week before my period. But it is mild and manageable. Before that, I would fly into rages and scream at my husband and baby. I felt such intense rage that I felt like I hated my husband 2 weeks out of the month and then spent the other 2 weeks feeling guilty for how I had treated him. I still try to get a lot of female support, take long walks, deep breathe, exercise and eat right. But none of those things helped before I started the medication. My brain chemistry was just too imbalanced during that time of the month. Now i feel much more stable and balanced. But I still feel like myself. I hate to think of what my life might have been like if i hadn't found this treatment. It can't hurt to ask your doctor about it.

 

Re: pmdd » Edgefield

Posted by Tuck on September 4, 2003, at 12:58:28

In reply to Re: pmdd, posted by Edgefield on September 3, 2003, at 19:28:50

I just happened to read the post from Edgefield. I posted the sarafem disater message a year ago. The anxiety issue is what grabbed my attention in your post. That was the last straw for me. I am an always in control person and the anxiety was driving me nuts (for lack of a better phrase)!!!! I checked out a ton of material at the library and read everything there is to know about anxiety and panic attacks. Once you let your body get away with it once it takes over as your coping mechinism.(sp?) I am feeling 99% better as of now a year later. I went off all percription drugs and am now taking Estroven every night and take calcium and magnesium every morning. I have learnt how to do the deep diaphram breathing and try my best to stay on top of things during that time of the month. I basically have decided that I am to young and have too many people (hubby and three kids)depending on me to have the luxury of saying "sorry I can't do this or that my anxiety is bothering me today!!!! Because I know it can get to be a crutch, I used it all last winter as one... The way I now look at it is, if your not on the pill or pregnant you are at the mercy of your hormones and probably will be until after menopause.
Post back if you have any interest in the vitamins and herbs that I have found effective. Or if you just want to unload.... I know how you feel...

 

Re: PMDD - Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder

Posted by ELENI4 on September 5, 2003, at 20:10:22

In reply to Re: PMDD - Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder, posted by erica on November 11, 2002, at 22:13:09

> there are great new PMDD meds: Celexa and Lexapro (they are enantiomers.) They are practically devoid of side effects. I've been using Celexa for about 6 months for PMDD and have found it to relieve most of my symptoms. I'm changing to Lexapro to try and totally eliminate ALL the minor side effects (remember, they are enantiomers.) To treat the adult PMS related acne, however, I think I'll try low-dose spironolactone...

I've tried Prozac, Effexor XR, and now Lexapro. Effexor worked the best but left me with insomnia. However rather than prescribe something to help me sleep, my doctor suggested I try Lexapro...and boy did I have side effects. I slept for 1 1/2 days straight, had palpitations, muscle pain, and muscle twitches that finally started to subside four days after taking my last dose. It was horrible, and I'm currently debating whether to continue taking the drug. I'm glad your experience was so positive. I wish mine wouldn't have been so bad (have heard of other that were even worse)...wouldn't wish it on anyone. I guess it all depends on body chemistry. =(

 

Re: pmdd » Tuck

Posted by nk on September 6, 2003, at 16:06:25

In reply to Re: pmdd » Edgefield, posted by Tuck on September 4, 2003, at 12:58:28

Tuck,

Ever since having my third child 18 months ago, I have had mood swings throughout the month, with the depression and intense anxiety worsening during the luteal phase of my cycle. It started with severe postpartum depression four months after the birth (when I weaned) and it has been an ongoing battle since. I have tried zoloft, lexapro, effexor, strattera, and now my pdoc has me on 50 mg of zoloft and 200 of Lamictal to counteract the mood swings. The Lamictal has done wonders for the depression and the cycling throughout the month but I can't shake this constant anxiety. I don't want to throw in the towel with the Lamictal but like you, I am considering asking my pdoc about estrogen.

A few questions.....do you take estrogen throughout the month or only during the last half of your cycle? Also, everything I have read indicates that you also need progesterone if you are taking estrogen. My problem is that I have tried synthetic progesterone (in Yasmin) and have even tried natural progesterone cream but both sent me back into a depression.

If you can give me the run-down on what you are taking, dosages, etc., I would greatly appreciate it. I am glad you are feeling better and I hope I can get to the same place someday since I also have three kids and a full-time career to contend with. My focus needs to be on them, not on my raging hormones.

Thanks,

Nicole :)

 

Re: pmdd » Tuck

Posted by Edgefield on September 7, 2003, at 16:57:44

In reply to Re: pmdd » Edgefield, posted by Tuck on September 4, 2003, at 12:58:28

Tuck it is good to hear from you, especially to hear that you are doing well!!! Yes, please share what herbs, vitamins, and prescription meds. that helped you.

I have an appointment to see my dr. next Wednesday and I would like to discuss trying progesterone. I've read positive and negative things about the use of natural progesterone. I surely don't want it to cause more depression, as I've read. I've also heard that some women found relief from anxiety and hormonal issues when they tried progesterone. All of this can be so confusing.

I look forward to hearing from you :)

Edgefield

> I just happened to read the post from Edgefield. I posted the sarafem disater message a year ago. The anxiety issue is what grabbed my attention in your post. That was the last straw for me. I am an always in control person and the anxiety was driving me nuts (for lack of a better phrase)!!!! I checked out a ton of material at the library and read everything there is to know about anxiety and panic attacks. Once you let your body get away with it once it takes over as your coping mechinism.(sp?) I am feeling 99% better as of now a year later. I went off all percription drugs and am now taking Estroven every night and take calcium and magnesium every morning. I have learnt how to do the deep diaphram breathing and try my best to stay on top of things during that time of the month. I basically have decided that I am to young and have too many people (hubby and three kids)depending on me to have the luxury of saying "sorry I can't do this or that my anxiety is bothering me today!!!! Because I know it can get to be a crutch, I used it all last winter as one... The way I now look at it is, if your not on the pill or pregnant you are at the mercy of your hormones and probably will be until after menopause.
> Post back if you have any interest in the vitamins and herbs that I have found effective. Or if you just want to unload.... I know how you feel...
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