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Posted by paulsf on July 5, 2002, at 22:09:46
About 6 months ago I found out from the school doc that I have GAD. She put me on buspar, 15mg twice a day. She also prescribed klonopin on an "as needed" basis. Well I went off of buspar as of last week because I got really dizzy everytime I took it, and it was effective, but not as effective as it was supposed to be.
So just 3 days ago I started taking Paxil, 10mg once a day. So far no side effects, from what I can tell (at least I'm not dizzy). But after reading some of the posts on this board I'm a little concerned. I've read a lot about withdrawals from both klonopin and Paxil, seizures, and some other unsettling comments. I guess my Paxil dosage is pretty low, and I take maximum 1mg Klonopin each day (usually .5mg). But I feel uneasy about being medicated each day, and I'm wondering if there is going to be any long term effects from taking these meds, and if this means I'm going to be dependent on them, or other meds, for the rest of my life. Does anybody know how potentially dangerous these meds can be? I'm wondering if I made the right decision by going on them.
Also, if anybody knows, I'm wondering if either paxil or klonopin's interact negatively with drugs such as meth, cocaine, x, or g. I use them very infrequently, but occassionly I do use them, and it seems like good information to know. Thanks.
Posted by fachad on July 6, 2002, at 0:03:33
In reply to This board now has me concerned(Paxil Klonopin ), posted by paulsf on July 5, 2002, at 22:09:46
> Also, if anybody knows, I'm wondering if either paxil or klonopin's interact negatively with drugs such as meth, cocaine, x, or g.
What is "g"?
-fachad
> About 6 months ago I found out from the school doc that I have GAD. She put me on buspar, 15mg twice a day. She also prescribed klonopin on an "as needed" basis. Well I went off of buspar as of last week because I got really dizzy everytime I took it, and it was effective, but not as effective as it was supposed to be.
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> So just 3 days ago I started taking Paxil, 10mg once a day. So far no side effects, from what I can tell (at least I'm not dizzy). But after reading some of the posts on this board I'm a little concerned. I've read a lot about withdrawals from both klonopin and Paxil, seizures, and some other unsettling comments. I guess my Paxil dosage is pretty low, and I take maximum 1mg Klonopin each day (usually .5mg). But I feel uneasy about being medicated each day, and I'm wondering if there is going to be any long term effects from taking these meds, and if this means I'm going to be dependent on them, or other meds, for the rest of my life. Does anybody know how potentially dangerous these meds can be? I'm wondering if I made the right decision by going on them.
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> Also, if anybody knows, I'm wondering if either paxil or klonopin's interact negatively with drugs such as meth, cocaine, x, or g. I use them very infrequently, but occassionly I do use them, and it seems like good information to know. Thanks.
Posted by JohnQ on July 6, 2002, at 0:13:59
In reply to This board now has me concerned(Paxil Klonopin ), posted by paulsf on July 5, 2002, at 22:09:46
I'm on Paxil, and I've taken coke, X, and GHB, without any problem. There's really no interaction that you should be concerned about, to my knowledge. I'd advise against Klonopin and GHB, though. If you're gonna take G, don't mix it with benzos.
Posted by pharmer on July 6, 2002, at 2:29:22
In reply to Re: This board now has me concerned(Paxil Klonopin ), posted by JohnQ on July 6, 2002, at 0:13:59
Why is it so many people with mental illness are so concerned about mixing prescribed meds.with their "illegal" drug habits? I often wonder if their illness is related to the consumption of these drugs.I don't mean to be militant with regards to recreational drug use but some of these drugs mentioned are pretty powerful. To say one has tried a prescibed med.with negative results while using drugs has "no" value in my opinion.Gee,I purchased all kinds of lighters,bic's-zippo's cricket's; but damn!they refuse to lite my cigarette. oh bye the way,I live in our shower stall. Certain things don't mix. Bring it on.
Posted by cybercafe on July 6, 2002, at 6:36:07
In reply to Re: This board now has me concerned(Paxil Klonopin ), posted by pharmer on July 6, 2002, at 2:29:22
> Why is it so many people with mental illness are so concerned about mixing prescribed meds.with their "illegal" drug habits? I often wonder if their illness is related to the consumption of these drugs.I don't mean to be militant with regards to recreational drug use but some of these drugs mentioned are pretty powerful. To say one has tried a prescibed med.with negative results while using drugs has "no" value in my opinion.Gee,I purchased all kinds of lighters,bic's-zippo's cricket's; but damn!they refuse to lite my cigarette. oh bye the way,I live in our shower stall. Certain things don't mix. Bring it on.
... yeah I hear cocaine can cause all sorts of long term anxiety problems...
Posted by cybercafe on July 6, 2002, at 6:40:34
In reply to This board now has me concerned(Paxil Klonopin ), posted by paulsf on July 5, 2002, at 22:09:46
>long term effects from taking these meds, and if this means I'm going to be dependent on them, or other meds, for the rest of my life. Does anybody know how potentially dangerous these meds can be? I'm wondering if I made the right decision by going on them.
Don't worry, ..... you're not going to grow a third eye or have a limb suddenly fall off :)
... many people are able to stop taking a med after many months and find their brain chemistry is permanently "reset" ....
.. from personal experience, i would say that it is not wise to do so without a doctor's supervision....
> Also, if anybody knows, I'm wondering if either paxil or klonopin's interact negatively with drugs such as meth, cocaine, x, or g. I use them very infrequently, but occassionly I do use them, and it seems like good information to know. Thanks..... do you mind if i ask why you use recreational drugs? ..... i just want to understand instead of becoming judgemental....
take care :)
Posted by Emme on July 6, 2002, at 15:52:05
In reply to This board now has me concerned(Paxil Klonopin ), posted by paulsf on July 5, 2002, at 22:09:46
Hi. I understand that people are concerned about the side effects and long term effects of medications.
But hey, don't forget, anxiety is POISON. Prolonged anxiety is just plain bad for you. You gotta consider the drawbacks of not adequately treating the disorder in deciding whether medication right for you (and which one).
I don't mean in any way to minimize the experiences of people who've had serious problems with Paxil and Klonopin. Or that you shouldn't be aware that such problems exist. But there's also a lot of folks out there who've done okay with Paxil and Klonopin.
I got off of 10 mg Paxil in about a week (stepped down to 5mg and then zero) with some really irritating but not disabling electric head zaps for about three days or so after stopping. It wasn't a big deal, maybe because the dose was so low. I thought Paxil was great for anxiety even at 5 mg. You might do okay with a low dose. How does the 10 mg feel?
I too was uneasy about taking a benzo - klonopin - every day. My pdoc assured me that it has an overall better safety profile than many psychotropic drugs and that she's had patients on the same dose for years without needing to bump it up. So I stopped worrying. My experience has been fine. I can vary my dosage up and down depending on how I'm doing and how stressful life is. So I suspect that I could taper off of it slowly if I ever needed to.
I don't mean to sound like an advertisement for these two drugs. It's just that with both of them, it was such a great relief to have a way to control anxiety. Therapy, yoga, chamomile tea, all that stuff, help but just weren't enough. Sorry, I ramble.
BTW, I'd be more afraid of meth or cocaine than I would of Paxil or Klonopin.
Good luck,
Emme
Posted by fairnymph on July 7, 2002, at 12:33:41
In reply to This board now has me concerned(Paxil Klonopin ), posted by paulsf on July 5, 2002, at 22:09:46
>>Also, if anybody knows, I'm wondering if either >paxil or klonopin's interact negatively with >drugs such as meth, cocaine, x, or g. I use them >very infrequently, but occassionly I do use >them, and it seems like good information to >know. Thanks.
My ex bf was on both klonopin and paxil, and did all of the drugs which you refer to. I have also taken prozac and klonopin personally and used recreational drugs while on them.paxil + cocaine, paxil + g, paxil + most psychedelics -- fine
paxil + meth -- slightly reduced effects -- i.e. you might not get quite as high
paxil + MDMA -- no effects, you will not get high, as paxil blocks the effects of MDMA. Shitty...
klonopin + meth, klonopin + MDMA, klonopin + coke -- klonopin is GREAt for stimulant comedowns. It can also be used to treat stimulant-induced anxiety while high. However, it can also dull the effects of the high (esp in the case of MDMA) if you take your meds before or during your drug use. I would not take your klonopin on days you decide to use stimulants...just take your dose (andpossibly an extra half dose as well) when you come down.
klonopin + psychedelics -- A good combo, as the klonopin will reduce the anxiety and paranoia..
klonopin + G, alcohol -- VERY BAD COMBO! this could lead to you passing out...do NOT combine downers!
~fairnymph
Posted by JohnQ on July 7, 2002, at 15:18:35
In reply to Re: This board now has me concerned(Paxil Klonopin ), posted by fairnymph on July 7, 2002, at 12:33:41
<<paxil + MDMA -- no effects, you will not get high, as paxil blocks the effects of MDMA. Shitty...>>
Surprisingly, this was not true in my case. I've been on 30mgs Paxil for 6 months, and just dropped my first E in over a year last week. Hit me pretty hard, but maybe it was from the reduced tolerance of not doing it for awhile.
Posted by jennie on July 7, 2002, at 22:18:59
In reply to Re: This board now has me concerned(Paxil Klonopin ), posted by JohnQ on July 7, 2002, at 15:18:35
ok e releases lots of serotonin in your brain at once. antidepressants in general mute this effect. i was on 200 mg of zoloft and rolled a couple of time. calms the e down, so you get let high but the come down isnt so hard.
my best friend did tons of drugs, basically everything but heroin. paxil affects the levels of serotnin in your brain, coke affects dopamine more. i find coke quiets my brain.
to anwser a post before for me personally drugs are just a break, not an avoidance. sometimes its impossible to deal with anything when thats all you do for years on end. go get some help, do some acupuncture, some meditation, yoga, talk to a therapist, write in a journal, spend some time with a friend. i do all those things. some people have an addcitive personality. its not about will power. thats the point. drugs are about self-control, but rather self-acceptance. got to accept you are not perfect and that taking drugs will only give you the fantasy of power and control in your life. sometimes its nice to feel something other than pain, frustration, anger and utter sadness. just my opinion anyway. take it or leave it.
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