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Posted by pathetic_n_useless on January 23, 2002, at 19:33:09
Posted by 3 Beer Effect on January 24, 2002, at 13:40:19
In reply to site giving view of the possible prob with benzos, posted by pathetic_n_useless on January 23, 2002, at 19:33:09
It looks like Benzos are the next drug class set for demonization by doctors/ the DEA/ & the media, just like oxycontin has recently been demonized as an 'evil' drug.
I have tried almost all the anti-depressants & anxiolytics out there and the only psychiatric drug that has worked at all for me is Klonopin. But because of this 'demonization' of benzos as evil addictive drugs, my pdoc is afraid to prescribe more than 1 mg per day which is too low to work well (sub-therapeutic).
Eventually, when benzos are rescheduled & doctors have to write triplicate DEA order form prescriptions for them, some doctors may resort back to ordering the much more addicting and dangerous miltown (meprobomate) in order to avoid hassles. I think they will then see how superior the benzos are to almost all the other psychiatric medications- most of which poison your brain & body with ridiculous side effects.
> http://www.beroendesidan.nu/citatg.htm
Posted by manowar on January 24, 2002, at 18:10:57
In reply to site giving view of the possible prob with benzos, posted by pathetic_n_useless on January 23, 2002, at 19:33:09
Hello,
Sure benzos can cause problems. Most of the articles cited at that web page were written in the 1980's. Diazepam and Xanax are not nearly prescribed at the levels they were 15-20 years ago. I think that benzos were used on practically everyone that walked in a pdocs office 15-20 years ago, but times have changed. Pdocs are VERY reluctant to prescribe that class of drugs anymore because of the abuse potential.
I use Klonipin, and it is the only drug that I've had that has helped my cyclothymia. To demonize a whole class of drugs without citing its benefits is very IRRESPONSIBLE.
Tim
Posted by Elizabeth on January 25, 2002, at 1:40:55
In reply to demonization of benzos is dissapointing, posted by 3 Beer Effect on January 24, 2002, at 13:40:19
> Eventually, when benzos are rescheduled & doctors have to write triplicate DEA order form prescriptions for them, some doctors may resort back to ordering the much more addicting and dangerous miltown (meprobomate) in order to avoid hassles. I think they will then see how superior the benzos are to almost all the other psychiatric medications- most of which poison your brain & body with ridiculous side effects.
They already are substituting meprobamate for benzos in New York, where you have to use a specific triplicate prescription for benzos (!). I know a couple of people there who got prescribed meprobamate for anxiety. (One of them is now seeing a doctor in NJ.)
-elizabeth
Posted by finelinebob on January 25, 2002, at 2:24:39
In reply to Re: demonization of benzos is dissapointing » 3 Beer Effect, posted by Elizabeth on January 25, 2002, at 1:40:55
Ah, but now in NY we have these really cool new scrip forms replacing the triplicates with modern security features like disappearing ink!
Either way, been on klonopin for a couple of years now and have always needed the triplicate form (in NYC). Here's another testimonial for it. I went through two years of medication merry-go-round hell before my pdoc decided on klonopin. First med that did me any good. I never knew how much anxiety was driving my life until a large part of it was knocked out by this med.
Diazepam I can do without. Pdoc gave that to me for some post-traumatic Sept11 stress, but all it did was knock me out.
flb
(hearing Paul Simon singing, in my head, "Momma don't take my klonopin away...")
Posted by Mr. Scott on January 25, 2002, at 21:58:47
In reply to demonization of benzos is dissapointing, posted by 3 Beer Effect on January 24, 2002, at 13:40:19
Benzos have been demonized for a long time. Probably really beginning to intensify around the time Xanax went off patent, and the time Buspar came on the scene. And again now that Effexor has approval for GAD.
All of these drugs have caused genuine problems for a lot of people, but have also helped many people too.
The discussion about benzo should be open ended and at least two sided.
Scott
Posted by Rakken on January 30, 2002, at 12:44:57
In reply to It's always a two way street! » 3 Beer Effect, posted by Mr. Scott on January 25, 2002, at 21:58:47
When are Paxil and Effexor going to be demonized. I've never experienced benzo withdrawal, but I know that getting off Paxil was a nightmare. Benzo deprivation couldn't be "too" much worse than Paxil. Although I'm pretty sure it's a lot harder to kick Diazepam than Paroxetine.
Stupid drug companies, and a wide range of stupid doctors. Not all doctors, but a lot of 'em. I know more about clonidine than my pdoc. I think he just prescribeds SSRI's and the occasional anti-psychotic. Maybe a little Wellbutrin. Stick with the standard I suppose. That way you get sent a free Prozac clock.
Posted by Mr. Scott on January 30, 2002, at 19:14:23
In reply to Re: It's always a two way street!, posted by Rakken on January 30, 2002, at 12:44:57
I wouldn't demonize anything. They are all potentially great and potentially troubling. If Narcotics really help a person to be more functional they should not be withheld. Some times things get tricky though. With all of the meds.
When are Paxil and Effexor going to be demonized. I've never experienced benzo withdrawal, but I know that getting off Paxil was a nightmare. Benzo deprivation couldn't be "too" much worse than Paxil. Although I'm pretty sure it's a lot harder to kick Diazepam than Paroxetine.
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> Stupid drug companies, and a wide range of stupid doctors. Not all doctors, but a lot of 'em. I know more about clonidine than my pdoc. I think he just prescribeds SSRI's and the occasional anti-psychotic. Maybe a little Wellbutrin. Stick with the standard I suppose. That way you get sent a free Prozac clock.
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