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Posted by nutsy on August 28, 2001, at 19:00:01
Anyone have any suggestions? Looking for a great doc with strong knowledge of pharms and reactions - not just a flavor of the month psych.
Posted by SLS on August 29, 2001, at 8:12:58
In reply to Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area, posted by nutsy on August 28, 2001, at 19:00:01
> Anyone have any suggestions? Looking for a great doc with strong knowledge of pharms and reactions - not just a flavor of the month psych.
You can try Princeton Biomedical Research/Princeton Psychiatric Center:609-921-3555
They also do clinical trials of new drugs.
- Scott
Posted by Elizabeth on August 29, 2001, at 10:52:18
In reply to Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area, posted by nutsy on August 28, 2001, at 19:00:01
> Anyone have any suggestions? Looking for a great doc with strong knowledge of pharms and reactions - not just a flavor of the month psych.
There are a lot of psychs in Princeton who have good reputations. Here are a few names and numbers (all 609):
Melanie Teasley 921 2113
David Nathan 688 0400
Kurt Stuebben 921 9293
Martin Weinapple 683 1453
Jeffrey Mattes 921 9299
Steven Resnick 683 0707
Julia Temple 430 0522
Peter Mueller 924 4061If you can't find anyone in Princeton who's able to treat you (a lot of doctors in the suburbs are very conservative), I suggest looking in New York.
-elizabeth
Posted by nutsy on August 29, 2001, at 18:42:25
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area » nutsy, posted by Elizabeth on August 29, 2001, at 10:52:18
Elizabeth,
Wow. Thx for the list. Have you used any of these guys? If not - how did you come to know them?Thank you.
> > Anyone have any suggestions? Looking for a great doc with strong knowledge of pharms and reactions - not just a flavor of the month psych.
>
> There are a lot of psychs in Princeton who have good reputations. Here are a few names and numbers (all 609):
>
> Melanie Teasley 921 2113
> David Nathan 688 0400
> Kurt Stuebben 921 9293
> Martin Weinapple 683 1453
> Jeffrey Mattes 921 9299
> Steven Resnick 683 0707
> Julia Temple 430 0522
> Peter Mueller 924 4061
>
> If you can't find anyone in Princeton who's able to treat you (a lot of doctors in the suburbs are very conservative), I suggest looking in New York.
>
> -elizabeth
Posted by nutsy on August 29, 2001, at 18:43:33
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area, posted by SLS on August 29, 2001, at 8:12:58
Scott,
Have you ever gone there? I've heard comments that they are like a 'cult' type atmoshpere. I don't have any personal experience and would be interested if you do.
Thanks very much for the info.
> > Anyone have any suggestions? Looking for a great doc with strong knowledge of pharms and reactions - not just a flavor of the month psych.
>
>
> You can try Princeton Biomedical Research/Princeton Psychiatric Center:
>
> 609-921-3555
>
> They also do clinical trials of new drugs.
>
>
> - Scott
Posted by SLS on August 29, 2001, at 19:51:23
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area » nutsy, posted by Elizabeth on August 29, 2001, at 10:52:18
> > Anyone have any suggestions? Looking for a great doc with strong knowledge of pharms and reactions - not just a flavor of the month psych.
>
> There are a lot of psychs in Princeton who have good reputations. Here are a few names and numbers (all 609):
>
> Melanie Teasley 921 2113
> David Nathan 688 0400
> Kurt Stuebben 921 9293
> Martin Weinapple 683 1453
> Jeffrey Mattes 921 9299
> Steven Resnick 683 0707
> Julia Temple 430 0522
> Peter Mueller 924 4061
>
> If you can't find anyone in Princeton who's able to treat you (a lot of doctors in the suburbs are very conservative), I suggest looking in New York.
>
> -elizabeth
I've met Julia Temple. I was impressed with how well she diagnosed my sister. I would stay away from Peter Mueller, though, unless you don't mind being diagnosed as having TLE and wearing smoke-colored sunglasses indoors.The Carrier Clinic is just a little ways up Rt. 206 They had a good reputation 10 years ago. I don't know about now.
Elizabeth - I'm curious how you came up with this list.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on August 29, 2001, at 20:21:20
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area, posted by nutsy on August 29, 2001, at 18:43:33
> Scott,
>
> Have you ever gone there? I've heard comments that they are like a 'cult' type atmoshpere. I don't have any personal experience and would be interested if you do.
>
> Thanks very much for the info.
>
>
> > > Anyone have any suggestions? Looking for a great doc with strong knowledge of pharms and reactions - not just a flavor of the month psych.
> >
> >
> > You can try Princeton Biomedical Research/Princeton Psychiatric Center:
> >
> > 609-921-3555
> >
> > They also do clinical trials of new drugs.
> >
> >
> > - ScottHey there, nutsy.
A cult? I bet someone was referring to Princeton House. It is a sort of drop-in inpatient thing. I don't think they let you in unless you drive up in a BMW. I sneaked in through the service entrance in a Honda.
Regarding Princeton Biomedical Research / Psychiatric Centers, they are professional and screened by ethics committees. Dr. Apter and his people are top-notch. I was supposed to co-author a paper with him involving the current state of geriatric psychiatry, but my condition worsened and I had to abandon it half-way through. If I don't get a break soon, I'll end up having to include myself in the study.
I doubt it would ever be necessary for you, but should you feel the need to try some of the newer investigational drugs, they are always doing clinical studies. The program is free, including a year or so of follow-up. They are also doing quite a bit of work on Alzheimer's.
- Scott
Posted by nutsy on August 30, 2001, at 17:19:08
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area, posted by SLS on August 29, 2001, at 19:51:23
I also found an article by Julia - she seems the most promenent of the list (probably the hardest to get an appt with and, of course, she ain't in my plan). I notice that 3-4 or them are in the same bldg.
Again, thanks for the list - I look forward to your comments on how you developed it.
> > > Anyone have any suggestions? Looking for a great doc with strong knowledge of pharms and reactions - not just a flavor of the month psych.
> >
> > There are a lot of psychs in Princeton who have good reputations. Here are a few names and numbers (all 609):
> >
> > Melanie Teasley 921 2113
> > David Nathan 688 0400
> > Kurt Stuebben 921 9293
> > Martin Weinapple 683 1453
> > Jeffrey Mattes 921 9299
> > Steven Resnick 683 0707
> > Julia Temple 430 0522
> > Peter Mueller 924 4061
> >
> > If you can't find anyone in Princeton who's able to treat you (a lot of doctors in the suburbs are very conservative), I suggest looking in New York.
> >
> > -elizabeth
>
>
> I've met Julia Temple. I was impressed with how well she diagnosed my sister. I would stay away from Peter Mueller, though, unless you don't mind being diagnosed as having TLE and wearing smoke-colored sunglasses indoors.
>
> The Carrier Clinic is just a little ways up Rt. 206 They had a good reputation 10 years ago. I don't know about now.
>
> Elizabeth - I'm curious how you came up with this list.
>
>
> - Scott
Posted by Elizabeth on August 31, 2001, at 15:06:59
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area, posted by nutsy on August 29, 2001, at 18:42:25
> Wow. Thx for the list. Have you used any of these guys? If not - how did you come to know them?
I know some of them personally, others only by reputation. (I've been living in Princeton for a few months, and I've spent time here several other times in my life.)
Incidentally, what Scott says about Dr. Mueller is consistent with what I know about him. < g >
Jeffrey Apter, who Scott also mentioned, is definitely a well-respected doctor, although it might be difficult to get an appointment (he's pretty busy and tends to travel a lot). If you're not in too much of a hurry, he's a good person to check out too.
-elizabeth
Posted by nutsy on August 31, 2001, at 15:14:35
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area » nutsy, posted by Elizabeth on August 31, 2001, at 15:06:59
Thank you again. Based on what I have seen - I am leaning towards Julia!
> > Wow. Thx for the list. Have you used any of these guys? If not - how did you come to know them?
>
> I know some of them personally, others only by reputation. (I've been living in Princeton for a few months, and I've spent time here several other times in my life.)
>
> Incidentally, what Scott says about Dr. Mueller is consistent with what I know about him. < g >
>
> Jeffrey Apter, who Scott also mentioned, is definitely a well-respected doctor, although it might be difficult to get an appointment (he's pretty busy and tends to travel a lot). If you're not in too much of a hurry, he's a good person to check out too.
>
> -elizabeth
Posted by nutsy on August 31, 2001, at 15:17:31
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area » nutsy, posted by Elizabeth on August 31, 2001, at 15:06:59
I also think that Apter's main focus now is Alzheimer's disease and I am not sure he is doing any none AD new patients!
> > Wow. Thx for the list. Have you used any of these guys? If not - how did you come to know them?
>
> I know some of them personally, others only by reputation. (I've been living in Princeton for a few months, and I've spent time here several other times in my life.)
>
> Incidentally, what Scott says about Dr. Mueller is consistent with what I know about him. < g >
>
> Jeffrey Apter, who Scott also mentioned, is definitely a well-respected doctor, although it might be difficult to get an appointment (he's pretty busy and tends to travel a lot). If you're not in too much of a hurry, he's a good person to check out too.
>
> -elizabeth
Posted by SLS on August 31, 2001, at 16:08:19
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area » nutsy, posted by Elizabeth on August 31, 2001, at 15:06:59
> Jeffrey Apter, who Scott also mentioned, is definitely a well-respected doctor, although it might be difficult to get an appointment (he's pretty busy and tends to travel a lot).How in the heck do you know this? I can't figure out how one teeny-tiny little brain can know so much! I've been Dr. Apter's patient for 10 years - and yes, he does travel a lot. Have you ever met him? I don't think he's taking on any private patients. If you were to mention my name, I think you'd be shown the door just that much faster.
:-)Actually, I've been thinking about touching base with him again. It has been just about a year since I last saw him. In retrospect, I've grown to appreciate him that much more.
I guess we're temporary neighbors. I live in Matawan. It's about a 45 minute drive to Nassau Street. Among other things, Matawan is noted for being the site of the shark attacks that inspired Peter Benchley to write "Jaws" (1916).
Nutsy - even if Dr. Apter isn't taking on patients, he will surely recommend some good doctors for you. He did have a staff of psychiatrists that saw patients privately - Julia Temple having been one of them. However, he may currently be devoting himself to conducting clinical trials of medications.
See you guys later.
- Scott
Posted by JonW on August 31, 2001, at 17:16:52
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area » Elizabeth, posted by SLS on August 31, 2001, at 16:08:19
> > Jeffrey Apter, who Scott also mentioned, is definitely a well-respected doctor, although it might be difficult to get an appointment (he's pretty busy and tends to travel a lot).
>
> How in the heck do you know this? I can't figure out how one teeny-tiny little brain can know so much! I've been Dr. Apter's patient for 10 years - and yes, he does travel a lot. Have you ever met him? I don't think he's taking on any private patients. If you were to mention my name, I think you'd be shown the door just that much faster.
> :-)
>
> Actually, I've been thinking about touching base with him again. It has been just about a year since I last saw him. In retrospect, I've grown to appreciate him that much more.I'm currently a patient of Dr. Apter's and I got my first appointment within a week of calling. He's very expensive though -- especially for the limited amount of time he takes with you. I've only had 2 appointments so far so I don't have a fair impression of him, but it wasn't difficult for me to get an appointment.
Posted by nutsy on August 31, 2001, at 18:27:41
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area, posted by JonW on August 31, 2001, at 17:16:52
what was the initial cost?
how long did he spend? what did he 'do' during the consult?
any tests ordered? did you leave with a script and a pat on the back?curious
> > > Jeffrey Apter, who Scott also mentioned, is definitely a well-respected doctor, although it might be difficult to get an appointment (he's pretty busy and tends to travel a lot).
> >
> > How in the heck do you know this? I can't figure out how one teeny-tiny little brain can know so much! I've been Dr. Apter's patient for 10 years - and yes, he does travel a lot. Have you ever met him? I don't think he's taking on any private patients. If you were to mention my name, I think you'd be shown the door just that much faster.
> > :-)
> >
> > Actually, I've been thinking about touching base with him again. It has been just about a year since I last saw him. In retrospect, I've grown to appreciate him that much more.
>
> I'm currently a patient of Dr. Apter's and I got my first appointment within a week of calling. He's very expensive though -- especially for the limited amount of time he takes with you. I've only had 2 appointments so far so I don't have a fair impression of him, but it wasn't difficult for me to get an appointment.
Posted by JonW on September 1, 2001, at 11:17:18
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area - jon, posted by nutsy on August 31, 2001, at 18:27:41
> what was the initial cost?
> how long did he spend? what did he 'do' during the consult?
> any tests ordered? did you leave with a script and a pat on the back?
>
> curiousWell, like I said before it's too soon to say what I think of him. After all, if he can find the right drug or combination of drugs to rescue me from this lifelong hell, I don't really care how much time he spends with me.
The initial appiontment was like $350 dollars (thank god for good insurance) I think and he took about 25 minutes with me! The following appointments are $150 and he spent like 20 minutes with me my last visit. If I'm paying for his knowledge and not his time that's understandable, but it's hard to know if he's knowledgeable when I haven't even spent an hour with the guy yet. My biggest criticism of him is that he doesn't say much and when I pin him down for an opinion he's always non-commital. I would say when I left I felt like all I got was like you said, a script and a pat on the back. I'm considering contacting Julia Temple since I understand she used to work with Dr. Apter.
Good luck,
Jon
Posted by nutsy on September 1, 2001, at 11:39:39
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area - jon, posted by JonW on September 1, 2001, at 11:17:18
Yeah - that ain't what I am looking for. I am probably going to seek out Temple as well. I don't wanna wind up on one med a.m, a second to sleep, etc etc. And I want a real diagnosis - not just 'depression' because I happed to take myself to a shrink!
> > what was the initial cost?
> > how long did he spend? what did he 'do' during the consult?
> > any tests ordered? did you leave with a script and a pat on the back?
> >
> > curious
>
> Well, like I said before it's too soon to say what I think of him. After all, if he can find the right drug or combination of drugs to rescue me from this lifelong hell, I don't really care how much time he spends with me.
>
> The initial appiontment was like $350 dollars (thank god for good insurance) I think and he took about 25 minutes with me! The following appointments are $150 and he spent like 20 minutes with me my last visit. If I'm paying for his knowledge and not his time that's understandable, but it's hard to know if he's knowledgeable when I haven't even spent an hour with the guy yet. My biggest criticism of him is that he doesn't say much and when I pin him down for an opinion he's always non-commital. I would say when I left I felt like all I got was like you said, a script and a pat on the back. I'm considering contacting Julia Temple since I understand she used to work with Dr. Apter.
>
> Good luck,
> Jon
Posted by nutsy on September 5, 2001, at 11:23:59
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area » nutsy, posted by Elizabeth on August 29, 2001, at 10:52:18
OK Resnick and Temple (and her colleagues) - not even taking calls until Oct 1st.
Ever heard of an Alan Tippermass? He was referred to me by Temple's office.
Thx!
> > Anyone have any suggestions? Looking for a great doc with strong knowledge of pharms and reactions - not just a flavor of the month psych.
>
> There are a lot of psychs in Princeton who have good reputations. Here are a few names and numbers (all 609):
>
> Melanie Teasley 921 2113
> David Nathan 688 0400
> Kurt Stuebben 921 9293
> Martin Weinapple 683 1453
> Jeffrey Mattes 921 9299
> Steven Resnick 683 0707
> Julia Temple 430 0522
> Peter Mueller 924 4061
>
> If you can't find anyone in Princeton who's able to treat you (a lot of doctors in the suburbs are very conservative), I suggest looking in New York.
>
> -elizabeth
Posted by Elizabeth on September 8, 2001, at 21:32:40
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area - Apter, posted by nutsy on August 31, 2001, at 15:17:31
> I also think that Apter's main focus now is Alzheimer's disease and I am not sure he is doing any none AD new patients!
There seems to be a lot of Alzheimer's research around here. I wonder why. But yes, Apter is taking new patients.
-elizabeth
Posted by JonW on February 19, 2002, at 22:52:34
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Thx Jon, posted by nutsy on September 1, 2001, at 11:39:39
I post this message for the benefit of others in the Princeton area. Since I last posted, I left Dr. Apter and have been with Dr. Temple for several months. Oh my God, what a diference! She is every bit as knowledgeable as Dr. Apter, but compassionate, understanding, and quite frankly, interested in solving my problems. I only wish I found her sooner as she is everything I have hoped for in a psydoc.
I would not recommend Dr. Apter to anyone! If for no other reason he charges for 15 minutes what Dr. Temple charges for 45! During one of my appointments he even took a phone call right in fron of me!!! The call wasn't an emergency and he charged me for the lost time! Dr. Apter may be a wonderful researcher, but he's a horrible psydoc in my opinion.
Posted by JennNYU on January 22, 2004, at 13:10:36
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area » nutsy, posted by Elizabeth on August 29, 2001, at 10:52:18
Hello:
Just wanted to comment. My brother has been a patient of Dr. Mueller's for years now, and although he was tested for TLE Dr. Mueller did not jump to diagnose him with it. He has changed his life. My brother went from failing in school, and struggling constantly to the completion of his first semester at a great college.
Also he truly cares about his patients, many of them he treats for free, and often will pay for their medications or petition the government to do so. That is why he has no staff at his office.Also he recently caught a rare and dangerous genetic disorder in both my brother and myself. No other Dr. thought to have this specific a test done and he took the time to find the information about it for us when we were scared.
He is not afraid to try things if he believes it will improve your quality of life!
Posted by Barry C. Freeman on August 19, 2004, at 13:05:48
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ - Elizabeth, posted by nutsy on September 5, 2001, at 11:23:59
LOL, I do go to Dr. Peter Mueller and he did diagnose me with TLE. The treatment he has prescribed has worked wonders. I am calmer now. So much so that I've gone from a waist size of 46 to 40. I'll be seeing him tonight.
Barry
Posted by Laura05 on March 16, 2005, at 15:06:56
In reply to Re: Pharmpsychiatrists - Princeton NJ area, posted by JennNYU on January 22, 2004, at 13:10:36
Hi,
I'd also like to comment that my brother has been a patient of Dr. Mueller for the last 2 years. And yes he was diagnosed with TLE, but for obvious reasons. Dr. Mueller is an incredible doctor, he really has saved my brothers life, and he wastes no time of yours. Unlike the bodunct doctors here in va, he got my brother an MRI right away and a quick and sure diagnosis. He won't just make something up to diagnos just so that you'll be happy, he actually does something about it.
-Laura> Hello:
>
> Just wanted to comment. My brother has been a patient of Dr. Mueller's for years now, and although he was tested for TLE Dr. Mueller did not jump to diagnose him with it. He has changed his life. My brother went from failing in school, and struggling constantly to the completion of his first semester at a great college.
> Also he truly cares about his patients, many of them he treats for free, and often will pay for their medications or petition the government to do so. That is why he has no staff at his office.
>
> Also he recently caught a rare and dangerous genetic disorder in both my brother and myself. No other Dr. thought to have this specific a test done and he took the time to find the information about it for us when we were scared.
>
> He is not afraid to try things if he believes it will improve your quality of life!
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