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Posted by Rainwoman on November 3, 2000, at 10:19:55
Hello All!
I thought I would bore you all with an update. I decided to drop the Adrafinil and stick with the Lucidril. One, because Lucidril is less expensive and second, because it is new ground here.
Anyway, I really like the stuff. I don't know if it is just helping the ritalin or what, but the clarity continues. I notice it most in my vocabulary and second in my sense of humor. Yesterday, I went to use three words that I knew were approriate, but didn't exactly remember the exact meaning. The three words, Proverbial, impetuous(sp), and ostentatious.
I am doing really well. I think I am happy, yet I have such clear, healthy thinking. Instance: Last night, I played hookey from my night class. I thought I would see my new beau, (which some of you know about from the social board, btw, for you guys, yesterday, I told him that I was a little disappointed for getting a 92 on my midterm. He sent me a joking email saying, "What's this, only a 92??? Am I in love with a slacker??" I think he might like me!). Anyway, he was tired and didn't want to do anything. Instead of sulking which I may have done before, I went to dinner at a friends, had a blast and then met another friend for a movie. Other ADDers can relate, I haven't gone to but three movies over the last 5 years. Last night I actually wanted to go to one. And, I held my attention the whole time. The second "healthy" thing is that, although Paul wants to do something later, I am making sure to meet out with ohter friends prior to meeting out with him. Not to spite for last night, but just to keep from centering my whole world around him, like I have done in the past with b-friends. Plus, I am really enjoying being around friends. And I know they are enjoying themselves around me. What has happened?? If you could see the difference from 2 weeks ago and now. Two weeks ago I would barely leave my house! Please God, oh pleaaaasssseee don't make it go away, Please!
Anyway, I am also on Wellbutrin and Ritalin also, so Lucidril is not solely responsible. I can say, however, that I can definitely notice a difference. Lucidril is supposed to make better use of glucose in your brain, could that have anything to do with the pick up in my metabolism? From my destructive starving myself, I didn't need that. But it is worth mentioning. I'll let you guess how I can tell.
For anyone suffering, it is impossible to understand how I feel right now. Been there. Might even be best not to try, it would have just frustrated me when I was down. Just KNOW that it is out there.
I wish all of you the same peace I have right now!
Love you guys!
Michele
Posted by dj on November 3, 2000, at 11:01:00
In reply to Lucidril update-my experiences!, posted by Rainwoman on November 3, 2000, at 10:19:55
> Lucidril is less expensive and second, because >it is new ground here.
I was curious what this was and did a quick scan of a couple of sites about it and came across the following caution at: http://www.antiaging-systems.net/centrophenoxine.htm
"Centrophenoxine is a powerful enhancer of brain and peripheral nervous system acetylcholine levels, and too much acetylcholine can cause problems. Excessive acetylcholine levels can lead to headaches, neck, jaw and shoulder muscle tension, insomnia, irritability and hyperexcitability, agitation and restlessness.
If any of these occur, simply discontinue centrophenoxine for a few days and then try a reduced dosage. Also, those with major depression, mania, seizure disorders or Parkinson's disease should avoid centrophenoxine, as too much acetylcholine may worsen these conditions. Also, pregnant women should avoid centrophenoxine"
Posted by shar on November 3, 2000, at 12:02:38
In reply to Re: Lucidril caution.., posted by dj on November 3, 2000, at 11:01:00
> x
Posted by Maniz on November 3, 2000, at 12:39:12
In reply to Lucidril update-my experiences!, posted by Rainwoman on November 3, 2000, at 10:19:55
Hi,
DMAE (dimethyl amino ethanol) can have similar effect (and possible side effects) as Lucidryl and is very inexpensive and available as a nutritional supplement.
I have not experience comparing the effects of both products.
Another safe cholinergic and brain metabolism enhancer product is citycholine, also available as supplement.
vinpocetine also improves brain glucose metabolism.
Regarding being more outgoing, I wish it was the Lucidryl, but maybe it is the wellbutrin. I would like to know if you can tell which one is doing what in the future.
> Hello All!
>
> I thought I would bore you all with an update. I decided to drop the Adrafinil and stick with the Lucidril. One, because Lucidril is less expensive and second, because it is new ground here.
Posted by Rainwoman on November 3, 2000, at 15:15:02
In reply to DMAE Re: Lucidril update-my experiences!, posted by Maniz on November 3, 2000, at 12:39:12
> Hi,
>
> DMAE (dimethyl amino ethanol) can have similar effect (and possible side effects) as Lucidryl and is very inexpensive and available as a nutritional supplement.
>
> I have not experience comparing the effects of both products.
>
> Another safe cholinergic and brain metabolism enhancer product is citycholine, also available as supplement.
>
> vinpocetine also improves brain glucose metabolism.
>
> Regarding being more outgoing, I wish it was the Lucidryl, but maybe it is the wellbutrin. I would like to know if you can tell which one is doing what in the future.
>
> > Hello All!
> >
> > I thought I would bore you all with an update. I decided to drop the Adrafinil and stick with the Lucidril. One, because Lucidril is less expensive and second, because it is new ground here.Hi Maniz--
I thinkit is either the Lucidryl or the combo ritalin+lucidryl+wellbutrin. The reason I say that, is I have been on the ritalin and wellbutrin for quite awhile. An interesting follow up though, I just got hit with a sleepy spell.Michele
Posted by CarolAnn on November 4, 2000, at 9:58:49
In reply to DMAE Lucidril update-my experiences!-Maniz, posted by Rainwoman on November 3, 2000, at 15:15:02
I've never heard of Lucidryl, does it have other names? Is it a prescription drug, and what is it usually prescribed for?
Sorry if these questions are redundant, but thanx for any replies! CarolAnn
Posted by Maniz on November 4, 2000, at 23:49:23
In reply to Re: what is it?, posted by CarolAnn on November 4, 2000, at 9:58:49
Lucidryl is a cholinergic (acetylcholine precursor).
The drugname is centrophenoxine.Into the body it tyrns into DMAE (dimethylaminoethanol, perecursor foe ACh and an auxine).
for articles:
http://www.lef.org/prod_hp/abstracts/centrophenoxineabs.html> I've never heard of Lucidryl, does it have other names? Is it a prescription drug, and what is it usually prescribed for?
> Sorry if these questions are redundant, but thanx for any replies! CarolAnn
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