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Posted by glenn on June 9, 2000, at 13:41:47
i saw a post by jb on 5 th june which referred to having talking in the head, i must admit that this is one of my major remaining symptoms but i was afraid to say so as i thought it meant i really was wacko!the song in the head symptom for me also happens, i just wondered if this was something others had experienced and if so what type of meds have helped, zoloft and paxil made it worse, buspar and remeron and dothiepin did nothing, it feels almost as if too much is happening in my brain, less so the body
i tried cognitive therapy but it didnt help and before this i trained for 5 years as an integrative psychotherapist so i dont reckon that area is worth following up for me at least( maybe one of my therapy colleagues would make somthing of that! in fact im sure they would but im more inclined to the chemical view nowadays- one of the reasons i dont practice
all the best
glenn
Posted by Cass on June 9, 2000, at 15:07:35
In reply to talking in the head, posted by glenn on June 9, 2000, at 13:41:47
Whose voices are they? Sometimes the voices of people who have criticized me go through my head, and I hate that because I feel the emotions all over again. When someone criticizes me and it really hurts me (even when the criticism is totally unjust), somehow the words and tone of voice sink deeply into my mind, and then the voice pops up again at other times. These are not voices outside my head though. I tend to be suceptible to emotional abuse because I was needlessly degraded and put-down by my parents when I was a child. Did you experience anything like that? And sometimes I get songs stuck in my head, but I don't think that's too unusual. Can you give some more details of your symptoms? Take care!
Posted by DASH on June 9, 2000, at 15:35:12
In reply to Re: talking in the head, posted by Cass on June 9, 2000, at 15:07:35
> Whose voices are they? Sometimes the voices of people who have criticized me go through my head, and I hate that because I feel the emotions all over again. When someone criticizes me and it really hurts me (even when the criticism is totally unjust), somehow the words and tone of voice sink deeply into my mind, and then the voice pops up again at other times. These are not voices outside my head though. I tend to be suceptible to emotional abuse because I was needlessly degraded and put-down by my parents when I was a child. Did you experience anything like that? And sometimes I get songs stuck in my head, but I don't think that's too unusual. Can you give some more details of your symptoms? Take care!
WHILE IN THE MILITARY THERE WAS A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME WHERE I THOUGHT THAT I WAS HEARING VOICES.AFTER AWHILE I REALIZED THAT THE VOICES WERE COMING FROM THE OFFICE BELOW AND SOMEHOW I WAS TWISTING WHAT WAS SAID. PROBABLY BECAUSE OF SOME PAST ABUSE ANYTHING NEGATIVE,I THOUGHT WAS DIRECTED TOWARD ME. IT DISSAPEARED SUDDENLY AND HASNT RETURNED AFTER 10 YRS. AS FOR MUSIC, I THOUGHT EVERYONE DID THAT.
Posted by paul on June 9, 2000, at 21:51:21
In reply to Re: talking in the head » Cass, posted by DASH on June 9, 2000, at 15:35:12
dont think this is the same thing, but there are always voices in my head-mostly mine. i'm constantly making up jokes and silly songs/phrases/names-usually about people who have hacked me off in the past. my brain too seems to have lost contact with its own "off" switch-hence the imterminable trouble w/falling asleep. if something has me by the brain i can simply flush any hope of getting any rest. i have no control over these thoughts although seroquel puts a DEAD STOP to the ruminating. i tried 25mg for the first time last night and not only slept like a rock, i awoke for the obvious reason and went STRAIGHT back to sleep w/no effort at all. felt too stoned for comfort all day though-am splitting the dose down to 12.5mg(or as close as i can get to it) tonight. got a LOOOOONG drive tomorrow-can't be out of it.
pax
pcl
Posted by Cindy W on June 9, 2000, at 22:38:37
In reply to Re: talking in the head, posted by paul on June 9, 2000, at 21:51:21
> dont think this is the same thing, but there are always voices in my head-mostly mine. i'm constantly making up jokes and silly songs/phrases/names-usually about people who have hacked me off in the past. my brain too seems to have lost contact with its own "off" switch-hence the imterminable trouble w/falling asleep. if something has me by the brain i can simply flush any hope of getting any rest. i have no control over these thoughts although seroquel puts a DEAD STOP to the ruminating. i tried 25mg for the first time last night and not only slept like a rock, i awoke for the obvious reason and went STRAIGHT back to sleep w/no effort at all. felt too stoned for comfort all day though-am splitting the dose down to 12.5mg(or as close as i can get to it) tonight. got a LOOOOONG drive tomorrow-can't be out of it.
> pax
> pclGlenn, I'm not sure about the talking you have in your head...everybody does "self-talk" (commentary about what you need to do, what you see, what you think and feel, may even be self-critical). Usually, self-talk is first-person or second-person, but not always(e.g., telling yourself, "you dummy!" or "I'm such an idiot" when you make a mistake). "Voices" as in schizophrenia are usually in third person and may be critical or giving commands or even giving reassurance. The difference is whether the voices seem to come from inside your head or from outside. Ruminating is a typical depressive symptom. Repeated thoughts (and hearing music over and over) can be a symptom of OCD. Hearing music can also be a neurological symptom. So it's important to talk to your pdoc and find out what's going on. My "internal self-talk" is still there (but less critical), while my OCD obsessive thoughts (e.g., about stepping on and harming frogs), repeated counting ("12345678, 12345678") and hearing the same song for hours at a time stopped when I started taking a therapeutic dose of Effexor-XR. Hope this helps!--Cindy W
Posted by judy1 on June 10, 2000, at 0:46:24
In reply to talking in the head, posted by glenn on June 9, 2000, at 13:41:47
My shink was real clear when asking whether a voice/sounds came from within or outside my head. In my case it was external and I found risperdal extremely helpful. I agree the constant ruminations are depressive or OCD in origin, and have worn earphones with CD's going to help block that. I hope you feel better soon.
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