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Posted by paul on May 21, 2000, at 2:58:20
it was time to refill mr. prescription and dr. runtenstein would neither return my calls for a refill NOR would he return calls left on his emergency service by my pharmacy. i sent a complaint to the regional office of the board for healing arts-theyre the watchdogs over such bs behavior. he had me on clonazapam-NOT something someone can simply drop cold-turkey. while he had become rather an ass recently by telling me that i had no right to research my condition and that all the info on the net was crap, there was no major altercation of any kind. a couple of weeks later my therapist told me that she'd seen the little dirtbag giving a lecture on the parallels between psychiatry and the beatles' white album. i still larf at that one. has this ever happenned to you? ever had a so-called "professional" flake out for no reason and without warning? i hope i see him somewhere so's i can pull his glasses off his weasely face and step on them. i'd never do anything physical-not my style. this runt aint worth the time.
pcl
Posted by Renee N on May 21, 2000, at 3:42:03
In reply to unexplained doctor flake-out, posted by paul on May 21, 2000, at 2:58:20
Bizarre! Time to find a new pdoc pronto! Good luck...Renee N
Posted by Cindy W on May 21, 2000, at 9:20:06
In reply to Re: unexplained doctor flake-out, posted by Renee N on May 21, 2000, at 3:42:03
> Bizarre! Time to find a new pdoc pronto! Good luck...Renee N
Paul, I agree with Renee that it sounds like time to find a new pdoc. In the meantime, you might want to ask the pharmacist to contact the doctor regarding med renewal, so you don't have to go cold turkey or suffer withdrawal.--Cindy W
Posted by Rockets on May 21, 2000, at 9:35:30
In reply to unexplained doctor flake-out, posted by paul on May 21, 2000, at 2:58:20
Sounds serious! No empathy at all there just pride. My advise is that after getting a new pdoc, of course, perhaps you could take a friend with you when you do see him. Then after you pull his glasses off, your friend could do a three stooges and say "whoop whoop whoop" and then poke him in the eye with a finger. Not hard enough to blind or get in trouble but enough to bring a few tears to his eyes. Then while he is blinded you could each grab an arm and spin him around until he is dizzy loses his balance and falls (gently) to the ground. Repeat the "whoop whoop whoop" and then run like heck. That will teach him to mess with crazy people. Heh.
> it was time to refill mr. prescription and dr. runtenstein would neither return my calls for a refill NOR would he return calls left on his emergency service by my pharmacy. i sent a complaint to the regional office of the board for healing arts-theyre the watchdogs over such bs behavior. he had me on clonazapam-NOT something someone can simply drop cold-turkey. while he had become rather an ass recently by telling me that i had no right to research my condition and that all the info on the net was crap, there was no major altercation of any kind. a couple of weeks later my therapist told me that she'd seen the little dirtbag giving a lecture on the parallels between psychiatry and the beatles' white album. i still larf at that one. has this ever happenned to you? ever had a so-called "professional" flake out for no reason and without warning? i hope i see him somewhere so's i can pull his glasses off his weasely face and step on them. i'd never do anything physical-not my style. this runt aint worth the time.
> pcl
Posted by bob on May 21, 2000, at 10:56:54
In reply to Re: unexplained doctor flake-out, posted by Cindy W on May 21, 2000, at 9:20:06
> Paul, I agree with Renee that it sounds like time to find a new pdoc. In the meantime, you might want to ask the pharmacist to contact the doctor regarding med renewal, so you don't have to go cold turkey or suffer withdrawal.--Cindy W
Or, how about getting a refill through your GP? After explaining the situation to him and saying it's just the one time while you're looking for a new pdoc, that should be a reasonable request.
cheers,
bob
(ps: you COULD have a friend (so he doesn't recognize the voice) call his voice mail and just repeat over and over, "Number 9 ... Number 9 ... Number 9 ...")
Posted by Cam W. on May 21, 2000, at 11:34:40
In reply to unexplained doctor flake-out, posted by paul on May 21, 2000, at 2:58:20
a couple of weeks later my therapist told me that she'd seen the little dirtbag giving a lecture on the parallels between psychiatry and the beatles' white album.
Paul - Maybe he thinks you're the walrus. - Cam
P.S. Sorry about the glib answer, just had everything reinstalled into my computer. Addresses, bookmarks, notes, everything gone. I just needed to post to "get back" to the automatic sign-in. - C.
Posted by Todd on May 21, 2000, at 13:39:47
In reply to Re: explained doctor flake-out, posted by Cam W. on May 21, 2000, at 11:34:40
Maybe your doc has something to hide. You know, cause everybody's got something to hide 'cept me and my monkey...
Sorry, guys, I just couldn't resist. 8^)
Posted by Snowie on May 21, 2000, at 14:05:18
In reply to unexplained doctor flake-out, posted by paul on May 21, 2000, at 2:58:20
Paul,
I think your pdoc's actions were inexcusable. Luckily, my pdoc has never gone so far as to refuse to refill a scrip for me (I take Xanax now, but am considering Klonopin in the future), but it wouldn't surprise me if my pdoc tried that in the future since he is also hostile about my internet research. Occasionally I'll ask him about a drug and he'll sarcastically reply that since I know more about meds than he does, why can't I answer my own question. My pdoc now thinks I have OCD simply because I research the net. I have none of the symptoms of OCD, except that it irritates him that I have a need to learn and to understand. Why does knowledge intimdiate some pdocs? IMHO, only an insecure and uniformed mental professional would feel threatened and intimidated by patients who search for answers.
Snowie
Posted by Gordon on May 21, 2000, at 18:23:04
In reply to unexplained doctor flake-out, posted by paul on May 21, 2000, at 2:58:20
From what you say, your therapist is a different person than your scrip writer. What does your therpaist have to say about this sudden change of attitude? The therapist must also have other patients referred to the same pdoc and could have the same results with others. Also, I'd think any therapist would also have a back-up pdoc or two as they certainly can't be expected to agree on every patient. I'm wondering if you used up your supply of Klonopin in the time period agreed upon, have substance abuse problems, etc., or if she simply thinks you do in error. Seems to me thatyour therapist is the place to apply the pressure. If he doesn't return calls, etc., it's time for big changes, soon. It also doesn't make sense to me why your therapist would be telling you this kind of stuff about the physician. She certainly couldn't expect to continue to work with him if that word got around.
Posted by paul on May 21, 2000, at 22:38:32
In reply to Re: unexplained doctor flake-out, posted by Snowie on May 21, 2000, at 14:05:18
snowie-
seems like your dr. buttface and my ex-dr. buttface earned thier buttface in the same sewer. to all who responded-had gp take over scrip duties, no problems, found nudder schreenk see him 5/23.
i aint no walrus but i might be maxwell's silver hammer!!
in your shoes i'd do just what i did. send in a formal complaint about this moron's crappy attitude to your local watchdog organisation. they will be called something to do w/the board of healing arts in your state. your gp or pharm should have the address handy. what this will do if nothing else is that when someone calls yon watchdog, buttface's record will no longer be spotless. when you ask if there have been any complaints against him, the answer will FOREVER be YES. amd remember ALWAYS- this schmuck works FOR YOU. i'd simply drop the arse and find another doc. no explanation, no nothing. thats better trearment that you dr. buttface deserves, imcyho(cranky yet humblopinion).
pcl
Posted by paul on May 21, 2000, at 22:49:16
In reply to Re: unexplained doctor flake-out, posted by Gordon on May 21, 2000, at 18:23:04
gordon-
you misconstrue. i am a recovering addict thus i watch EVERYTHING i take-regardless of what it is-like a hawk. i take what i'm suppoised to when i'se s'posed to take. kinda like some normal joe, eh wot? my therapist simply does talk therapy-she has ZIPPO to do w/meds except to keep track of what i'm taking. she did refer me to the new doc i'll be seeing. it was NEVER my therapist who don't respond-it was my schreenk, dr. runtenstein. my therapis -responded to this twisted tale by acknowledging that runtenstein would no longer be one of her reccommendations. she doesn't think i have using problems because she's in recovery too and could see it five miles away. she aint seen it cuz there's nothin to see. you could say that i have a "reverse-abuse" problem-i HATE taking all this stuff but its better than the alternative and i know that for a fact. clearer now?
tx
pcl
Posted by Noa on May 22, 2000, at 9:28:37
In reply to Re: unexplained doctor flake-out, posted by paul on May 21, 2000, at 22:49:16
If the pdoc were "firing" you as a patient, ie, refusing to see you or write further scrips, he would be obligated to notify you in writing, I believe.
You should write him a letter inquiring about why the sudden cessation of communication. Then, send a copy of that letter to the medical board.
This sounds really wierd. Wierd. Wierd. Wierd.
Definitely time for a new doc.
Posted by paul on May 22, 2000, at 11:36:59
In reply to Re: unexplained doctor flake-out, posted by Noa on May 22, 2000, at 9:28:37
noa-
i take it as a point of growth that i indeed really don't care what this buttwipe's reason might be. he has shown me no courtesy so he gets none back. i'm quite pleased that i'm not obsessing about it/taking it personal/drinking cleaning products/etc. he simply deserves to be reported and forgotten, which, as they say in the country that fries toast, "have done sir!"!
tx fo de reply
pcl
Posted by Danny on May 24, 2000, at 1:33:52
In reply to unexplained doctor flake-out, posted by paul on May 21, 2000, at 2:58:20
I had a pdoc try to palm me off on a GI doc (I have a bad gut thing)while simultaneously taking me off ativan AND Paxil. These guys come in all different flavors, they are often suspicious and/or hostile if you start invading their (?) turf. And sometimes they're just plain bad. I gave mine a tongue lashing, politely, and got another pdoc. It is a frightening experience because these guys are wielding a lot of power. best of luck next time around.
> it was time to refill mr. prescription and dr. runtenstein would neither return my calls for a refill NOR would he return calls left on his emergency service by my pharmacy. i sent a complaint to the regional office of the board for healing arts-theyre the watchdogs over such bs behavior. he had me on clonazapam-NOT something someone can simply drop cold-turkey. while he had become rather an ass recently by telling me that i had no right to research my condition and that all the info on the net was crap, there was no major altercation of any kind. a couple of weeks later my therapist told me that she'd seen the little dirtbag giving a lecture on the parallels between psychiatry and the beatles' white album. i still larf at that one. has this ever happenned to you? ever had a so-called "professional" flake out for no reason and without warning? i hope i see him somewhere so's i can pull his glasses off his weasely face and step on them. i'd never do anything physical-not my style. this runt aint worth the time.
> pcl
Posted by paul on May 24, 2000, at 16:51:13
In reply to Re: unexplained doctor flake-out, posted by Danny on May 24, 2000, at 1:33:52
the new guy actually told me to do my own research on three meds he's advocating. i have more work to do but at least i'm informed. as i said before-i hope i meet dr. runtenstein on the street someday. what pure poetic justice-treating the infantile by breifly accessing my own unflinching infantility. my old man was an internist-and was DEAD-DAMN-SURE he was next in line for the "GOD-JOB." a bigger, sicker 100% grade "a" assWHOLE you can't even imagine meetimg. it's amazing to me that some of these hyp[ostatic megacretins have so totally forgotten that ALL THEY DO is put the pieces in place-the REAL job of recovery lies with the patient and a vast number of other equally important factors/entities. do these butts-the BAAAAAAAAAD ones-go to STUPID-SCHOOL as a part of thier continuing DISeducation requirement??
happy AS HELL that i dint foller in hz ftstps. i'm just a damn engineer and even I know it aint me that solves the problems. a power INFINITELY greater than all of us put together gives the final push towards solution. tx fer scribbabblin, dan.
pcl
you cant paint your house w/a POTATOE!!!!!
Posted by Noa on May 24, 2000, at 18:24:31
In reply to Re: unexplained doctor flake-out, posted by paul on May 24, 2000, at 16:51:13
Paul, glad to hear you found a new pdoc, and one who supports your involvement in decision-making. Keep us posted.
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