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Posted by alexandra_k on November 15, 2013, at 16:33:52
anybody into it?
i've realized that i'm loving electronic music because i'm finding it mentally stimulating so it wakes me up but not attention grabbing (i think mostly in virtue of lack of lyrics) so i'm able to focus on reading / writing while gaining the benefits of mental alertness.
but alertness / wakefulness is what i'm going for. maybe playfulness. not sleepiness. not too boomy / dramatic / attention capturing. does this make sense?
any recommendations?
Posted by baseball55 on November 15, 2013, at 19:02:25
In reply to classical music, posted by alexandra_k on November 15, 2013, at 16:33:52
I grew up with it since my mother was a pianist. It's all I listen to in the car. See suggestion about pandora in previous thread.
Posted by Angela2 on November 15, 2013, at 20:01:25
In reply to classical music, posted by alexandra_k on November 15, 2013, at 16:33:52
hmmmBoards of Canada? They aren't classical, but I think they're in the electronic genre. You could try Don Caballero too. It's instrumental and interesting sounding. Mellow enough, but might be good to study to.
I love to listen to music, myself. And I find that if I'm listening to something catchy, I can't concentrate on what I'm reading. I need to find a balance as well.
Posted by Angela2 on November 15, 2013, at 20:02:49
In reply to Re: classical music, posted by baseball55 on November 15, 2013, at 19:02:25
I think pandora is really good for stuff like that, also spotify. You can listen to whole albums without buying it, over and over again if you sign up.
Posted by Partlycloudy on November 16, 2013, at 4:21:21
In reply to Re: classical music, posted by baseball55 on November 15, 2013, at 19:02:25
I like the romantists, like Brahms. I could listen to Glenn Gould playing the Bach cycles for hours.
I like Eric Satie.
I like Mahler, though the range of tone, volume and emotion is enormous.
Schubert.Now I listen to a lot of ambient music, non vocal. There are a lot of web radio stations that play that. I liked the Buddha Bar albums when they came through.
It's pick and choose, really.
Posted by gadchik on November 16, 2013, at 13:51:41
In reply to Re: classical music, posted by Angela2 on November 15, 2013, at 20:01:25
My fav song now is "Safe & Sound". It's a feel good one!
Posted by Phil on November 16, 2013, at 18:26:38
In reply to Re: classical music, posted by gadchik on November 16, 2013, at 13:51:41
I need to listen to classical more, it makes me feel rich. I went to a performance several years ago and was blown away. It was in an old but awesome church downtown. The show was
Mahler at Midnight. Male and a female singer. Front row. When the guy sang his chest expanded so much so that kept me occupied. It was a great show.
Posted by sigismund on November 16, 2013, at 18:48:35
In reply to classical music, posted by alexandra_k on November 15, 2013, at 16:33:52
Well yes, I always have.
Have you listened to Nacho Sotomayor's La Roca? Especially La Roca2, though La Roca1 isn't bad either. You could download it if you know how to do that kind of stuff.
I don't like electronic music much, finding it disappointing generally, though I do like trance. This is off La Roca2. I like music that turns me inside out or makes time go backwards or does something interesting. This is called "Hell" and for me is heavenly. I don't know if it will come up.
http://www.whosdatedwho.com/tpx_2037393/nacho-sotomayor/tpx_2240892
I go with the idea that there is dance music and religious music, and my tastes are up the religious end. Beautiful singing, just lovely.
I don't like background music though. I like that feeling of just for a bit, before you turn it into your next plan, the subject object distinction didn't happen.
Posted by baseball55 on November 16, 2013, at 19:10:21
In reply to Re: classical music, posted by sigismund on November 16, 2013, at 18:48:35
When I was super-depressed, I had this very long, high-speed commute and would think about driving into a bridge embankment all the time. I started listening to Bach keyboard pieces. Found them very engaging. Once I was on a long drive with my husband and he wanted to put on some music (couldn't find any radio stations). The only things I had were the Bach CDs. My husband has never listened to classical music in his life. But he loved it. I explained what a fugue was and pointed out the voices in all these complex three-part inventions. He got really into it.
Sometimes I'll listen to something by Mozart and get very bored by it. He wrote a lot of junk. But I don't think I have ever heard anything by Bach that I didn't enjoy hearing.
Posted by Partlycloudy on November 16, 2013, at 20:13:25
In reply to Re: classical music, posted by baseball55 on November 16, 2013, at 19:10:21
I have this thing about Elgar. Love the Englishness of it. The Planets. I sang the Brahms' Liebesleider as duets to audition for a chorale. What was I thinking? Don't know a syllable of German. But I made it.
I quite like the zoning out ambient music. Whale songs. Recordings of loons. Oceans (I think I can tell the difference between the Pacific and the Atlantic, have recordings of each). Sounds for every stage of non-functioning.
Posted by johnLA on November 16, 2013, at 23:34:55
In reply to Re: classical music, posted by baseball55 on November 16, 2013, at 19:10:21
ha!
'mozart...he wrote a lot of junk.'
love it baseball55...
i taught music history for almost 30 years to 12th graders. i LOVED mozart. in fact, i would tell the kids that if i was only allowed 3 albums to take to a deserted island they would be 1. miles davis' 'kinda blue' 2. the beatles rubber soul/revolver or marvin gaye's 'what's going on and 3! the absolute 'must have' mozart's 'marriage of figaro/nozze di figaro.'
have you ever been to a mozart opera? it's quite sublime. even for the most cynical classical taste, i feel.
i would tell the kids that if mozart were alive today they would 'dig him!' he'd probably have a purple mohawk, tattoos/piercings, and be all excited about the latest rapper he was about to 'drop-in' to one of his works was well as a dj from turkey for good measure. lol
plus, his libretist, was quite good at sneaking in some double innuendos while the beautiful music was performed.
i so miss loving his music. and, teaching it too.
i remember coming across studies about the 'healing' properties of mozart's music specifically. brief periods of higher iq, less pain for those suffering from physical problems. curious to see if any work has been done about mental healing and mozart. again, it was specifically mozart's music and not others.
sigh.
since my depression i don't listen to music much anymore. so very strange. it was one of the biggest parts pf my life. i 'try' to listen to miles and coltrane and it is just noise now. marvin gaye just makes me feel sad because i can't 'feel' what i used to feel with him. even john lennon's voice sounds different to me. how can the brain change so much?
i drive withe music off. and, rarely play music at home. it is very triggering for me...
Posted by johnLA on November 16, 2013, at 23:46:32
In reply to classical music, posted by alexandra_k on November 15, 2013, at 16:33:52
hi alexandra-
not sure where your knowledge/experience is with classical music is, but i would start with the 'hits.'
bach, mozart, and beethoven are the 'big 3' to start with. if you have itunes, check-out some of the many classical stains they have. the 'pandora' rec was good too i feel.
i was a mozart groupie before depression. his works are pretty great to do almost anything to; read, meditate, workout and more. his piano and violin sonatas are pretty kind to the mind. his operas i would save for live performances.
bach can be very inspiring in a 'heavy' sort of way.
and, beethoven. well, just make sure to turn it up to '11' on the volume! blast it so the neighbors will complain. i recommend his symphonies #2,5 and of course 9.
i can recommend many more if you like. but, again, if you are just starting out i would explore these 3 giants of music. i'd equate them in some way to elvis (early), the beatles, and dylan as a starting point...which would lead you to some pretty amazing other composers that will turn you on even more i'd predict.
john
Posted by johnLA on November 17, 2013, at 0:07:41
In reply to classical music, posted by alexandra_k on November 15, 2013, at 16:33:52
here is some mozart junk. (lol);
Posted by johnLA on November 17, 2013, at 0:14:37
In reply to classical music, posted by alexandra_k on November 15, 2013, at 16:33:52
and this;
inspired by bach in part...
Posted by johnLA on November 17, 2013, at 0:25:28
In reply to classical music, posted by alexandra_k on November 15, 2013, at 16:33:52
headphones or speakers...
i suggest playing this piece loud;
ps might be good for your workouts too.
pss just imagine; he was COMPLETELY deaf when he wrote this. only 'heard' it in head.
Posted by johnLA on November 17, 2013, at 1:29:40
In reply to classical music, posted by alexandra_k on November 15, 2013, at 16:33:52
alex-
sorry...i didn't read your whole initial message about 'uplifting' type of classical music...
instead, i started posting some pieces as if i was back in the classroom. argh. sorry.
do a bit of research on what i mentioned earlier if you like on the 'mozart effect.' i think it might be right-up your alley as we say over here. regardless of what baseball55 says. lol the mozart study i believe was done at some ivy league school. so, it can't be too shabby.
whenever i played mozart for my students before a test many felt more calm and energized for what it's worth.
k; last one. maybe the the #1 hit of all-time in classical music;
good night! :)
john
Posted by Phillipa on November 17, 2013, at 9:56:20
In reply to 'mozart effect' » baseball55, posted by johnLA on November 16, 2013, at 23:34:55
John how strange I don't either? Phillipa
Posted by sigismund on November 17, 2013, at 15:19:50
In reply to 'mozart effect' » baseball55, posted by johnLA on November 16, 2013, at 23:34:55
Yeah, the Marriage of Figaro is so great and so cynical. Reading the lyrics along with the music is illuminating.
I heard Mozart's first symphony yesterday, it was just on the radio. He wasn't even a teen.
Posted by sigismund on November 17, 2013, at 15:23:06
In reply to Re: classical music, posted by Partlycloudy on November 16, 2013, at 20:13:25
I love sung German, especially (which is most of the time) I don't understand it. I went through a period of Hayden's Creation which sounds great in German. It is very very hard to cop in English. The fugues are easy to follow too.
One effect I like in complex fugues is having no idea which way is forward and which way is back. Some in the Well Tempered Clavier.
Posted by sigismund on November 17, 2013, at 15:28:32
In reply to Re: classical music » alexandra_k, posted by johnLA on November 16, 2013, at 23:46:32
> i recommend his symphonies #2,5 and of course 9.
Yes, his second is underestimated, though the phrasing (?) in the last movement needs to be done carefully.
I was reading about Stalingrad (or the advance thereon) while listening to it obsessively (sp?). It is the feel of the French Revolution but I felt it might be transposed to (at that point, in some people's minds) an optimistic phase of history.
The Brandenburg Concertos. Good place to start.
Posted by johnLA on November 17, 2013, at 17:15:35
In reply to classical music, posted by alexandra_k on November 15, 2013, at 16:33:52
1680's german baroque meets 1990's west coast hip-hop.
i'm pretty sure mozart would approve of this;
awesome message too. and, i'm not even into rap.
Posted by johnLA on November 17, 2013, at 17:40:47
In reply to Re: 'mozart effect', posted by sigismund on November 17, 2013, at 15:19:50
'Yeah, the Marriage of Figaro is so great and so cynical. Reading the lyrics along with the music is illuminating.'
and yes, mozart's librettist was wonderful at sneaking in some very fun lyrics. poor italians all seem to die in the end of their operas. lol
i always wanted to ask a girl to get married during the aria of 'voi che sapete' in act 1 of figaro...
sigi did you know that some art snobs (critics) consider 'nozze di figaro' the greatest work of art of all-time?
very subjective of course. but, something to ponder. opera can fuse together all of the classic 7 art forms. often in perfect harmony.
still, i believe opera works best live.
you might like this too; (i may have posted this earlier?) the ancient greeks considered music to be the greatest of the 7 arts. why? because it brought you 'closest' to the gods emotionally. interesting i think.
unfortunate that plato and his crew did not get to hear the stuff we do.
maybe more unfortunate that we know no little of their music. only the words for the most part.
one of the reasons that the illiad and the odyssey were written in meter was because it was told/spoken/sung with musical accompaniment.
homer may have been the first rapper...
Posted by sigismund on November 17, 2013, at 18:12:23
In reply to Re: 'mozart effect' » sigismund, posted by johnLA on November 17, 2013, at 17:40:47
I was entranced by the deep scorn behind this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQsI1xCslTM
I thought, oh wow!
Posted by johnLA on November 17, 2013, at 19:20:40
In reply to Re: 'mozart effect' » johnLA, posted by sigismund on November 17, 2013, at 18:12:23
'I thought, oh wow!'
yes!
very good sigi. :)
this is all very triggering for me, i must admit. you made me cry. lol
f*ck it. it's been 3+ years since i listened to opera. i used to go a few times a season. believe it or not, los angeles puts on some good productions. though though not as many these past few years. i wonder if they know i have not been going? he-he. actually, opera is dying. just like jazz sadly...
here is one right back at ya' sigi. i don't know you, but i have a feeling there is a romantic heart in you. this is the aria i mentioned earlier. i was lucky to hear fredirika von stade sing it in the 80's. mind you i grew-up as a athlete. wanted to be a professional. then, i found opera and thought i sure wish i could do that instead...
Posted by alexandra_k on November 17, 2013, at 20:25:28
In reply to Re: 'mozart effect' » johnLA, posted by sigismund on November 17, 2013, at 18:12:23
Thanks for the suggestions! I am working my way through them.
I"m having some trouble replying to individual's posts...
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