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Posted by manic666 on April 11, 2009, at 4:45:39
i was standing in a queue at the bank,and a woman in front was grossly overweight with a fat *rs*, suddenly her cell phone started bleeping, a little boy shouts look out i think she is reversing////////
Posted by SLS on April 11, 2009, at 7:17:27
In reply to the fat lady joke, posted by manic666 on April 11, 2009, at 4:45:39
> i was standing in a queue at the bank,and a woman in front was grossly overweight with a fat *rs*, suddenly her cell phone started bleeping, a little boy shouts look out i think she is reversing////////
I find it offensive when anyone who is overweight is objectified this way. They are no less human and have no fewer emotions than the rest of us.
Maybe your jokes offer some of us a better way to look at ourselves and the world around us.
I would not want to debate anyone on these points. I am only describing what was my personal reaction to this "fat lady" joke. I am sure that there are other possible reactions.
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 11, 2009, at 9:31:33
In reply to Re: the fat lady joke, posted by SLS on April 11, 2009, at 7:17:27
Friends,
From what is written,[...no less...no fewer..], I would like for interested members to email me if they like with their opinion(s) of the following:
A. Can a person, IYO, of a class that has a disability or be just of a class of people, be used as a subject for others to
derive amusment from on a mental-health forum?
B. Do such, IYO, have the potential to cause feelings of humiliation to members or others that belong to that class in question?
C. Can such, IYO, have the potential to lead members or others that are of the class of people in quesion to feel demeaned or degraded as them feeling that they are being made fun of or ridiiculed for being of that class of people in question?
If you, or someone you know, could be interested in more of what I think, I would appreciate your email.
Lou
lpilder_1188@fuse.net
Posted by manic666 on April 11, 2009, at 12:53:06
In reply to Re: the fat lady joke, posted by SLS on April 11, 2009, at 7:17:27
she had a red dress , one leg shorter , she was bald, she was black , she was white ,she was short, she was tall she was thin , she drank , she didnt drink , she smoked , she swore , she cryed ,she read forums , she was alcolic , she was a mental pationt, she was a human being , she was a shoplifter , she was a woman , she was lesbian, she was vodoo doll she was a mess she wasnt a lady , she didnt like children , she spit on the sidewalk, she laughted at jokes , she didnt care ,PICK ANY ONE ??????????I NO SHE WAS SO THIN I USED HER AS A POOL CUE, SHE HAD SUCH A PERFECT FIGURE EVERY MAN WANTED SEX WITH HER.give me a break ////////////
Posted by Phillipa on April 11, 2009, at 13:07:23
In reply to she was so thin ? she was perfect weight, posted by manic666 on April 11, 2009, at 12:53:06
Manic I will as sure you meant not to offend. Love Phillipa
Posted by SLS on April 11, 2009, at 13:36:11
In reply to she was so thin ? she was perfect weight, posted by manic666 on April 11, 2009, at 12:53:06
> give me a break ////////////
You are starting to get the idea.
On a mental health site, perhaps you can find jokes that don't hurt the feelings of an entire class of people.
That's how I feel about your jokes.
- Scott
Posted by myco on April 11, 2009, at 15:14:40
In reply to the fat lady joke, posted by manic666 on April 11, 2009, at 4:45:39
I stand with you manic. you mean no harm and I like your posts...plus i think posting is good for you...i definatlely have noticed a change in you for the good. you are opening up...that is healthy.
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> i was standing in a queue at the bank,and a woman in front was grossly overweight with a fat *rs*, suddenly her cell phone started bleeping, a little boy shouts look out i think she is reversing////////
Posted by Sigismund on April 11, 2009, at 17:20:03
In reply to Re: the fat lady joke, posted by SLS on April 11, 2009, at 7:17:27
Scott
You can't be too cognitively impaired, because apparently you understand this joke.
As of now, I'm worried that I might understand it soon, but I have this little window of bliss (or what passes for it).
Now I do, and it didn't help.
Posted by Sigismund on April 11, 2009, at 17:31:44
In reply to she was so thin ? she was perfect weight, posted by manic666 on April 11, 2009, at 12:53:06
>SHE WAS SO THIN I USED HER AS A POOL CUE,
That's more like it.
Posted by Shar on April 11, 2009, at 22:39:08
In reply to the fat lady joke, posted by manic666 on April 11, 2009, at 4:45:39
I represent one vote 'yes.'
Posted by myco on April 11, 2009, at 23:37:51
In reply to How about a Jokes board?, posted by Shar on April 11, 2009, at 22:39:08
This has crossed our minds but its not been addressed plus it would be "policed" anyway to protect the insecure
> I represent one vote 'yes.'
Posted by manic666 on April 12, 2009, at 4:52:24
In reply to Re: How about a Jokes board? » Shar, posted by myco on April 11, 2009, at 23:37:51
i dont write or steal jokes about , disabled. race,death ,although i have plenty ,you see things dont enter my head that way , ok people are fat an thin, it seem,s a thin joke is not as bad as i fat one,a comedian in england , chubby brown is fat, an enters the stage to cry,s of you fat bastard .i my self was abused by my gandson an told to loose weight i nearly pi**sed laughing.im sure people can be offended an i apologise ,// nothing faze,s me// When engulfed by mental illness. it is the only thing that hurts me an my famaily.not jokes , verbal abuse ,plate,s in my anckles from motor bike smash, phyisical illness mends ,or leaves a different pain,/triggers are a way of life for us/ and normal metally unafected people,// when you get a window in mental illness seize it with both hands, because it wont be long before its calling again,life is bad for us mentally damaged ,lets not dwell on triggers , lets face them head on
Posted by manic666 on April 12, 2009, at 12:33:06
In reply to Re: she was so thin ? she was perfect weight, posted by Sigismund on April 11, 2009, at 17:31:44
she was so thin i used her as apool cue . you said thats more like it,////////i carnt get my breath ??????????????????????????
Posted by manic666 on April 14, 2009, at 11:54:36
In reply to no retreat no surrender, posted by manic666 on April 12, 2009, at 4:52:24
scott , a friend of mine on babble from america, who used to run her own site about venlafaxine an visits the site on ocation, told me you have triger with wieght an your meds,an you may have took the joke badly,i apologise i wasnt thinking friends were texting me jokes an i just posted it without thinking no hard feelings my freind.
Posted by Kath on April 14, 2009, at 13:10:21
In reply to SCOTT, posted by manic666 on April 14, 2009, at 11:54:36
Hi Manic - I appreciate your sincerity.
I also am always affected when people apologize. To me, it's no small thing.
:-) Kath
Posted by SLS on April 14, 2009, at 16:15:01
In reply to SCOTT, posted by manic666 on April 14, 2009, at 11:54:36
> scott , a friend of mine on babble from america, who used to run her own site about venlafaxine an visits the site on ocation, told me you have triger with wieght an your meds,an you may have took the joke badly,i apologise i wasnt thinking friends were texting me jokes an i just posted it without thinking no hard feelings my freind.
I had not expected that you would reconsider your position on "fat lady" jokes. I am humbled by your humility. I'm not sure that I would have been as mature to post an apology. I really did try to look at your side of the issue. I came up ambivalent. The joke was not intended to hurt anyone, I know.
The rest is a bit of a rant that really has nothing to do with you as a person. You have a good heart. It is just a general set of feelings and observations.
My personal stake in this issue regarding objectifying overweight people has less to do with my own drug-induced weight gain (which is substantial), but, rather, having been a close friend of a morbidly obese woman for over 10 years. She has weighed in excess of 300 pounds. I have had intimate knowledge of how one is affected by society's tendency to separate out and ridicule such people.
In a way, "fat people" are the last subject of societal jokes for which comics have universal immunity. However, these jokes are extremely hurtful. Imagine being Joseph Merrick, the Elephant Man. People did not see him as a human being with human emotions. He was just a freak to make jokes about. He certainly ended up feeling different from every other human on the face of the earth. In particular is the "Fat Lady", without whom nothing is over until she sings. In the meantime, she cries.
- Scott
Posted by Sigismund on April 14, 2009, at 16:39:16
In reply to Re: SCOTT, posted by SLS on April 14, 2009, at 16:15:01
>She has weighed in excess of 300 pounds.
I went to see an old friend. We had lived together in 1970/71. She was so sick. She'd had cancer, she was so overweight, and she just didn't look well. We sat across from each other and talked and laughed nonstop for 5 hours, mostly acerbic observations about life. It was just wonderful.
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 18, 2009, at 14:12:15
In reply to SCOTT, posted by manic666 on April 14, 2009, at 11:54:36
Posted by Cass on April 18, 2009, at 18:12:34
In reply to the fat lady joke, posted by manic666 on April 11, 2009, at 4:45:39
I've just gotten into the habit of skipping manic's jokes; unfortunately one still has to see the titles.
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