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Posted by Phillipa on July 28, 2008, at 20:18:11
In reply to Today, posted by TexasChic on July 28, 2008, at 20:11:51
T your boss is horrible and seems to have no feelings at all. I'm so sorry for you. And the other position wouldn't there be an orientation period where you would learn the necessary skills? Love Phillipa
Posted by TexasChic on July 28, 2008, at 20:34:23
In reply to Re: Today » TexasChic, posted by Phillipa on July 28, 2008, at 20:18:11
Thanks so much for the support.
There may be an orientation period for that other job, that's pretty much what I'm going to ask him: if he's willing to take the chance of training somebody who may or may not pay off, or if he'd rather just skip it. And honestly, if I have no chance, arranging an interview with my schedule is very difficult, so I don't want to do it if its useless. Now there are other things in my field that I don't know but I at least understand, and would probably give those a shot. But I'm afraid this job is more machinery and managing. But I'll keep trying.
-T
Posted by Kath on July 28, 2008, at 20:58:29
In reply to Today, posted by TexasChic on July 28, 2008, at 20:11:51
Dear, dear TC,
I canNOT believe how much your boss SUCKS. Oh BOY - I could use some absolutely CHOICE language & would love to say it to her face. And I'm serious!.
Gawd TC - if only you can get another job. I would love to see you out of there.
>So if he calls back, I'm going to tell him I was afraid I mislead him to think I had more experience than I actually do,
********Please be careful how you word it. There are positive ways! don't say you mislead him hun. You can say that you are so interested in working there that...hm....well, that you - i'm not sure! But try to put a positive spin on it! I know - so interested in working there, that you were totally willing to learn whatever you needed to, & then on giving it further thought, you realized that in certain areas, they would need someone to jump in & take over (whatever you said in your post...) All the other stuff you said sounded good.Keep us 'posted' & please try to put on a HARD SKIN...realizing that your boss is at best a very mean, cruel, troubled person & that your co-worker knows this & is probably trying to cover her *** & keep in boss's good books - NOT nice, but probably true.
Please try to know in your mind that you do NOT respect them & that you are being treated abominably.
I send you BIG cyberhugs,
much love, Kath
but if he is looking for somebody who picks up things quickly and has a vast knowledge of different areas of graphic design, then I'm the one for him. But if he wants someone who's going to just jump right in and start running things, I can't honestly say I could do that. I mean, this is stuff like running printing presses and image setters and just all kinds of crap I wouldn't have a clue how to handle. But I will make sure to impress upon him that if he wants someone hardworking, diligent, reliable, and won't quit no matter what, then give me a shot.
>
> And now we wait.
>
> -T
Posted by Partlycloudy on July 29, 2008, at 7:15:48
In reply to Today, posted by TexasChic on July 28, 2008, at 20:11:51
TC, it sounds like your boss is trying to make your job very quickly unmanageable for you. Perhaps you could forward the email to the HR weenie (if they haven't been cc'd already) so they're made aware of the scheduling you're being subjected to.
Hang in there.
PC
Posted by Kath on July 29, 2008, at 8:38:55
In reply to Re: Today » TexasChic, posted by Partlycloudy on July 29, 2008, at 7:15:48
> TC, it sounds like your boss is trying to make your job very quickly unmanageable for you. Perhaps you could forward the email to the HR weenie (if they haven't been cc'd already) so they're made aware of the scheduling you're being subjected to.
>
> Hang in there.
>
> PC*****Excellent idea. Also to include the comment about the 10 minutes late & boss's comment!!!!!
luv, Kath
Posted by Kath on July 29, 2008, at 21:03:36
In reply to Re: Today » Phillipa, posted by TexasChic on July 28, 2008, at 20:34:23
Want you to know you're in my thoughts.
luv, Kath
Posted by TexasChic on July 29, 2008, at 21:41:22
In reply to Hey you - how are ya doing? » TexasChic, posted by Kath on July 29, 2008, at 21:03:36
Thanks Kath, I helps to know there's someone out there pulling for me.
When I came back to work monday, my boss made out a schedule of deadlines for this week that included both last week's work as well as this week's. I worked 9 hours Monday and 7AM-8PM today. Of course I did not finish what I was supposed to by the end of the day. When I was leaving at 8, she proceeded to tell me she wouldn't stop me from leaving, but I just better know I haven't made a deadline yet [since she wrote me up]. I told her I was out an entire week last week. She said she didn't care about last week this was deadlines for this week. I said but they are all the same deadlines! Its just that last week I had a week to finish a project, while this week I had a day!
The thing about it is, our department has deadlines of when things go to the printer or have to be posted online, and these are not the deadlines she's referring to. She's talking about these micromanaged schedules that she makes out that are impossible to meet.
She said all this in front of a guy I work with too. I finally just said, okay, I'm going.
I called a coworker who had given me her home phone number because she was concerned about me and said she had seen my boss watching us at work when we talk. She's very supportive and says its obvious my boss is trying to set me up. I feel bad because all I ever do is vent to her.
So I came home and I called the phone number you're supposed to call when you think something unethical is going on at work. I had called before and got a list of therapists, and I had contacted them by email also to explain the situation with my boss. Today I just added to everything that has happened and said I don't even know if I can make myself go to work tomorrow. I just don't know if I can do it! It was hell just making myself stay there all day! I'm actually beginning to wonder now that even if I did get another job, would I be able to do it?! I feel like a basket case.
I'm sorry, that's all I can write for now. I'll check back in though.
-T
Posted by Kath on July 29, 2008, at 22:05:08
In reply to Worst day yet » Kath, posted by TexasChic on July 29, 2008, at 21:41:22
Oh Sweetie,
It is so unbelievably disgusting!
I'm sure you hardly even get a chance to go to the bathroom, what with trying to get everything done, but are you able to be keeping track, etc to let HR know? Or even to make an email by "cut & pasting" what you write here (& obviously editing it!!! LOL)
I think it would be VERY good to let HR know what she'd now in the process of doing.
I'm glad you were able to speak to that co-worker. I'd let her know that you appreciate her support & I dunno - just something about that you are sorry if it feels very 1-sided with you venting, etc.
Remember all those anger-venting methods I told ya.
I went to an appointment today with a doctor who does some pretty off-the-wall alternative type stuff. One of the things I worked on (amounts to sitting & letting thoughts come in while holding certain energy points) & I was working on "I don't have any control" YOUR situation came up - & nope I don't have ANY control over it & BOY do I wish I did!!!!
((((((((you)))))))))
luv, Kath
PS - when this job is history, I think you might feel SUCH a sense of relief hun. I think you're going to be okay.
Posted by Larry Hoover on July 29, 2008, at 22:27:47
In reply to Worst day yet » Kath, posted by TexasChic on July 29, 2008, at 21:41:22
Posted by TexasChic on July 29, 2008, at 22:33:35
In reply to Re: Worst day yet » TexasChic, posted by Kath on July 29, 2008, at 22:05:08
For some reason it just made me laugh to think of you thinking of me like that, I don't know why.
I guess I need to get it through my head that I AM in control of what happens next. Maybe not in what other people do, but how I handle it and where I go from there.
I think I am going to try to pursue the extended time off thing with a doctor's note that the HR lady sent me paper work on. My doc thinks they may fire me because of it, but hey, who's to say they aren't going to fire me tomorrow. Or if they don't, that I don't go totally postal before then!
-T
Posted by TexasChic on July 29, 2008, at 22:35:25
In reply to {{{{{{{{TC}}}}}}}} (nm) » TexasChic, posted by Larry Hoover on July 29, 2008, at 22:27:47
Posted by Kath on July 30, 2008, at 11:28:45
In reply to Re: Worst day yet » Kath, posted by TexasChic on July 29, 2008, at 22:33:35
:-))
How long of exended time off could you get, do you think?
I'm wondering if it'd be legal for them to fire you either:
- for taking extended medical leave
or
- while you're ON extended medical leaveI also wonder how long the doctor would give you leave for?
Also, would you be in a bad situation if you got fired & hadn't got a job yet?
Just thoughts.
luv ya, Kath
Posted by Kath on July 30, 2008, at 11:31:04
In reply to Re: Worst day yet » Kath, posted by TexasChic on July 29, 2008, at 22:33:35
pretty clear to me!!!
I think she's definitely going ALL OUT to build a case to fire you on the grounds (ridiculous though they are) that you're incompetent.
What is your take on that lately?
xoxo Kath
Posted by TexasChic on July 30, 2008, at 19:23:50
In reply to PS - your boss's intentions seem » TexasChic, posted by Kath on July 30, 2008, at 11:31:04
I was hoping for a couple of weeks, but my doctor said I needed at least a month off! Its still not officially approved, but I was told by my doctor and the claims rep that I should call in tomorrow and tell my supervisor I won't be coming in and that I have filed an illness recover claim. Oh, and I also made sure with HR that this would not get me fired. She said my job would still be available when I got back.
-T
Posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2008, at 19:42:19
In reply to I am now on illness recovery time, posted by TexasChic on July 30, 2008, at 19:23:50
T and this gives you time to try and find another job? Love Phillipa
Posted by TexasChic on July 30, 2008, at 19:48:05
In reply to Re: I am now on illness recovery time » TexasChic, posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2008, at 19:42:19
Yes, and I'll have time enough to recover so maybe I can do a decent interview!!!
I'm still kind of not believing it yet. I can't imagine not working for a month.
-T
Posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on July 30, 2008, at 21:13:49
In reply to I am now on illness recovery time, posted by TexasChic on July 30, 2008, at 19:23:50
> I was hoping for a couple of weeks, but my doctor said I needed at least a month off! Its still not officially approved, but I was told by my doctor and the claims rep that I should call in tomorrow and tell my supervisor I won't be coming in and that I have filed an illness recover claim. Oh, and I also made sure with HR that this would not get me fired. She said my job would still be available when I got back.
>
> -TI am sorry hun...((((((tc)))))...I haven't really said much. It's more of a case of I don't know what to say. I feel your pain, as I've been in similar job situations, and I felt like my Human Rights, my God Given Right to exist where violated by a f***ing employer/co-worker. You deserve so much better, and I wish I could help. It's the 'way of the world' out there today. They have created an economy that unless you are born into the super-rich, you have to be a slave to the work-grind. And they keep taking more and more from us, so soon we will have just a few very, very rich people and all the rest of us will be working-class peasants. I thought you might able to relate to these words:
As soon as youre born they make you feel small
By giving you no time instead of it all
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all
They hurt you at home and they hit you at school
They hate you if youre clever and they despise a fool
Till youre so f*ck*ng crazy you cant follow their rulesWhen theyve tortured and scared you for twenty odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you cant really function youre so full of fear
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to beKeep you doped with religion and sex and tv
And you think youre so clever and classless and free
But youre still f*ck*ng peasants as far as I can see
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to beTheres room at the top they are telling you still
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
If you want to be like the folks on the hill
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to beBIG HUGS...
Jay :)
Posted by TexasChic on July 30, 2008, at 21:49:10
In reply to Re: I am now on illness recovery time » TexasChic, posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on July 30, 2008, at 21:13:49
> . It's the 'way of the world' out there today. They have created an economy that unless you are born into the super-rich, you have to be a slave to the work-grind. And they keep taking more and more from us, so soon we will have just a few very, very rich people and all the rest of us will be working-class peasants.
That is so true! Its despicable that minimum wage is not enough for ANYONE to live on. At all. Period.
Today I took a wrong turn and ended up in a really, really well to do neighborhood. I've seen nice houses, but DAMN! I kept just stopping my car in the middle of the road staring. These places were just SO ELEGANT! Now I've driven through the unimaginably big mansion neighborhoods to look at xmas lights and stuff, but the fact that these weren't quite that big, but still so WOW, just gave me such a weird feeling. So many people live like this and don't know anything different! And the worst of it is, these people are probably only considered upper middle class!
Thanks for your kind words. This is actually a good thing. Now I have a chance to recover from all I've been through, and still get paid while I'm at it! Maybe this once the system will work in the little guys favor! (fingers crossed nothing goes wrong).
-T
Posted by Partlycloudy on July 31, 2008, at 19:21:07
In reply to Re: I am now on illness recovery time, posted by TexasChic on July 30, 2008, at 21:49:10
TC, you are going through a really harrowing experience with your boss. I hope that your time off helps you feel better. I've been made more sick by my job and my supervisors before - it can be traumatizing. Please be extra good to yourself.
PC
Posted by TexasChic on July 31, 2008, at 22:46:30
In reply to Re: I am now on illness recovery time, posted by Partlycloudy on July 31, 2008, at 19:21:07
> TC, you are going through a really harrowing experience with your boss. I hope that your time off helps you feel better. I've been made more sick by my job and my supervisors before - it can be traumatizing. Please be extra good to yourself.
>
> PC
I've only told yall the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the mind games this woman plays. I was so worried about her being mad when I called in this morning, instead she's all like, "Well are you okay?" and more questions of concern like "What do you have to do?", and I said, "I really don't care to discuss that". She said, "No, no, I don't want to know anything, I just want to make sure YOU'RE going to be OKAY." Then she said to give her a call at least once a week to let her know I'm alright or she would be worried. Is it me, or is that twisted? That's why I call her Jeckle and Hyde. That's also why I call her PsychoBitch. Maybe now I can include 'manipulative guilt tripper'. Hmmm, maybe. ' Jeckle the ManipulativeGuiltTripperPsychoBitch'.-T
Posted by TexasChic on July 31, 2008, at 23:14:55
In reply to Re: I am now on illness recovery time, posted by Partlycloudy on July 31, 2008, at 19:21:07
> TC, you are going through a really harrowing experience with your boss. I hope that your time off helps you feel better. I've been made more sick by my job and my supervisors before - it can be traumatizing. Please be extra good to yourself.
>
> PCI forgot to say thanks for the support!
I've been doing all these things around the house. I decided to recycle this belt I love but never looked right on me (its this fabric Indian looking thing - I love stuff from India}, and I tacked it up around the border of the shelf I put up over my fireplace. (The one I put up to look like a mantle). It looks really cool.
Then I found these (again Indian looking) string of velvet stars that were actually Xmas tree decoration, and draped it along the top of my curtain rod. It makes it look kind of mystical.
Next I'm thinking of making slip covers for the chairs at my kitchen table. I only have two chairs, and have the table pushed up against the wall like a cafe. I have these sheets that I liked the pattern but were always a bit scratchy, and the pillow cases fit perfectly over the backs of the chairs. That's got to work some how don't you think? My sewing skills are abismal at best, mostly because I don't have the patience to make perfect little even stitches. I may have to either invest in one of those infomercial hand held sewing thingys. Or a hot glue gun.
Its fun to have energy and feel the creativity flowing through me!!!
-T
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 1, 2008, at 19:06:15
In reply to I am now on illness recovery time, posted by TexasChic on July 30, 2008, at 19:23:50
IMHO, it is your boss who should be concerned about being fired.
Lar
Posted by TexasChic on August 2, 2008, at 22:06:30
In reply to Re: I am now on illness recovery time » TexasChic, posted by Larry Hoover on August 1, 2008, at 19:06:15
I told her about my month off, and how I was going to devote my time to hard core job hunting. She said instead, I should take the first two weeks just to do nothing (or whatever I want). She said to get a lot of sleep and give myself some time to really relax and actually recover from the trauma I've been dealing with for so long at work. I don't think I would have been able to do that if she hadn't told me to. I guess I was just so worried somebody might think I was using this as an excuse for a vacation, that I felt I had to fill my up days with some sort of work. But she said for the next two weeks to pretend I AM on vacation. Isn't that a trip! I think a visit to Half Price Books may be in order! (I'm such a wild child aren't I).
-T
Posted by Bobby on August 5, 2008, at 11:03:03
In reply to Went to T today, posted by TexasChic on August 2, 2008, at 22:06:30
Posted by TexasChic on August 5, 2008, at 18:06:08
In reply to Just something » TexasChic, posted by Bobby on August 5, 2008, at 11:03:03
Very interesting! It actually makes a lot of sense. It sounds like my job, the workload just keeps increasing but no new people are hired. And the industry I work in is definitely dependent on the economy.
Of course, I believe my boss would be psycho even in the best of conditions, but all the things listed in the article probably made things worse.
-T
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