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Posted by Kath on July 6, 2007, at 22:32:29
Put *********trigger********* just in case.
My son, perhaps has spun out of control enough to accept that he needs help with his cocaine use.
His roommate kicked him out. Son's roommate, who was trying to stay clean from c. got upset with my son for giving his some when he asked him. He apparently told my son, "I don't want to be living with an addict." My son also owed money, not for the first time.
Bottom line is that he is staying with us while he & his mental health worker go through the arranging. My son has already done some intake at a Concurrent Disorders facility. Intake worker will be back from holidays Monday, so we'll hopefully learn more.
Hubby, son & I spent 3 days near Collingwood at a cottage; hiking, swimming, relaxing. It was actually very nice. My son seemed to be way more like he used to be before psychosis. Amazing what being off street drugs will do!
I am trying to take a day at a time; stay detached; carry on with my life. I'm doing pretty well today. Yesterday I wasn't doing too well.....my son is SO depressed & I was doing my "felling the other person's pain" thing that I do.....I tend to feel how I'd feel if I were them!
Not the greastest thing to do. I'm doing better today. Standing back & knowing that he is 23; he's caused this situation himself; this is 1 day in his whole life; that type of thinking.
Hubby & I aren't delighted to have him here, but he is sincere in knowing that he must get help. He said that he's known it for a while, but only very recently actually accepted it.
My friend was visiting her son (she's from England; lived here but moved back several years ago) - saw her yesterday & today & it was really nice. I miss her.
Kath
Posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2007, at 11:44:12
In reply to Back from camping/ son is talking Rehab *trigger?*, posted by Kath on July 6, 2007, at 22:32:29
Kath well you're keeping busy that helps and he's an adult and seems you have things under control. Sorry your friend left. Love Phillipa
Posted by Kath on July 7, 2007, at 14:06:36
In reply to Re: Back from camping/ son is talking Rehab *trigger?* » Kath, posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2007, at 11:44:12
> Kath well you're keeping busy that helps and he's an adult and seems you have things under control.
****yes; I'm trying to keep busy; am actually getting a LITTLE bit done each day as to sorting my various areas of clutter in my house!
You're right - I keep reminding myself he's 23 - I tend to think of him as about 16 or 17 - probably because his maturity/sense of responsibility is about there often.****Sorry your friend left. Love Phillipa
****Yeah; I miss her. It's one of those friendships where - when we get together (she visits her son about 2 times a year & we see each other then) it's as if NO time has gone by at all. Have you ever experienced that?
Phillipa - how is the lady who had the baby - was it wildcard? can't remember?
I send you hugs. Are you feeling any more energetic?
love, Kath
Posted by TexasChic on July 7, 2007, at 20:17:03
In reply to Back from camping/ son is talking Rehab *trigger?*, posted by Kath on July 6, 2007, at 22:32:29
I know what you mean about feeling the other person's pain, I do the same thing. I believe that 'ultra' sensitivity is both a strength and weakness. It makes us care strongly about people, but also makes us vunerable to falling into a depression ourselves (not to mention vunerable to being taken advantage of). I have to constantly remind myself to try to keep my emotions separate from the person I'm trying to help. It doesn't always work, but I try. I have a completely unfounded belief that I will eventually learn to do it if I keep trying.
Stay strong! I'm sending strengthening vibes your way.
-T
Posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2007, at 21:55:45
In reply to Ever had a friendships where it's always the same » Phillipa, posted by Kath on July 7, 2007, at 14:06:36
Kath don't talk with her much I think she's okay. E-mail material. Love Phillipa
Posted by Kath on July 10, 2007, at 14:27:55
In reply to Re: Back from camping/ son is talking Rehab *trigg » Kath, posted by TexasChic on July 7, 2007, at 20:17:03
Thx so much TC,
I think if we keep trying, we might get the 'hang' of it!!
I am doing pretty well. He's starting to have physical as well as emotional withdrawal. He should be able to go into detox by Wed or Thur...he wants to. Thank goodness.
I'll keep you 'posted'.
thx, Kath PS how is your brother?
Posted by TexasChic on July 10, 2007, at 18:56:39
In reply to Re: Back from camping/ son is talking Rehab *trigg » TexasChic, posted by Kath on July 10, 2007, at 14:27:55
Well, like my sister, he doesn't have a phone so its hard to know. I hear about him through my mom, although she hears from him very little (but more than I do).
As far as I know he's doing okay - with the exception of our cousin who is living off him and he can't get rid of. He's a manipulator and an user and prey's on people like my Mom and Bro. So the latest is he lost his disability because he went to jail last month (Cuz, not Bro). So now, according to her, Bro CAN'T throw him out because NOBODY could do that!!! I told her, "He's a freaking adult and its not Bro's fault that Cuz is now getting no income!" (Its not like he contributed anyway, but that's besides the point). But she kept saying, "He can't throw him out on the street!" and I was like "WHY NOT????"
They just drive me crazy.
-T
Posted by Kath on July 12, 2007, at 14:54:30
In reply to Re: Back from camping/ son is talking Rehab *trigg » Kath, posted by TexasChic on July 10, 2007, at 18:56:39
That's too bad about the cousin situation!
I'm such a softy myself, I'd probably have trouble 'kicking someone out into the street' - but my intellect KNOWS it's the right thing & that there are shelters for people to go to.
Take care, Texas C
luv, Kath
Posted by TexasChic on July 12, 2007, at 20:45:29
In reply to Re: Back from camping/ son is talking Rehab *trigg » TexasChic, posted by Kath on July 12, 2007, at 14:54:30
Thanks, I think I've been waiting to rave about that. There's actually alot more, but sometimes I find it best not to dwell on my family's problems too much. Occasionally I've got to share the craziness though.
How are things going for you now?
-T
Posted by Kath on July 17, 2007, at 19:10:12
In reply to Re: Back from camping/ son is talking Rehab *trigg » Kath, posted by TexasChic on July 12, 2007, at 20:45:29
HI TC - Just on the computer for the first time in days.
Thx for asking.
It seems theres new dramas frequently.
Son wasn't doing well with stopping cocaine.
He asked to go to detox. Unfortunately it was only for the physical symptoms & was 3 days only. But, he says he's doing way better now. He is drinking though.In actual fact, it's not a problem having him here, except that he smokes, so smells when he comes in from having a smoke outside. He washes his hands & sometimes remembers to change his clothes! He's being totally respectful & co-operative, even to taking some supplements hubby & I researched & bought. Tyrosine, GABA & L-glutamine are supposed to help with cravings & also I bought a Dr/ Reckeweg homeopathic combination for withdrawal from smoking etc. That's the company that makes the one for Depression that I feel saved my sanity during this past winter.
Now, though, my son wants to go to a music event this weekend. He says he feels he can keep clean & sober.....he needs to be 72 hours C & S for his 'intake' meeting for Georgianwood (the Dual-Diagnosis Rehab Treatment Centre he's wanting to go to).
When I expressed my concern, he came up with the idea that maybe we could make the intake appointment a different day. That was okay with me, but when we phoned, it might be as far off as mid-August.Anyway, we're not policemen & I don't know. This just came up today. Haven't even talked with hubby about it yet. I actually sent him a copy of the email I send to son's mental health worker because son is out & I don't want to be the 'messenger' with the details to my husband & get HIS emotional reaction. MY emotional reaction was pretty strong & it's enough for me to have experienced mine; don't want his also until he's had time to digest it!!
Anything nice happening in your life TC?
hugs, Kath
Posted by TexasChic on July 17, 2007, at 20:59:57
In reply to Rehab 'intake' meeting Monday; possible snag » TexasChic, posted by Kath on July 17, 2007, at 19:10:12
Whoa, that's tough. But like you said, you're not the police, so its not in your control. You can do you best to discourage him from going (sounds like a bad idea in my opinion) but the rest is up to him. Hang in there and try to stay strong.
Everything with me is okay, just working one of my long hour weeks this week. I'm losing steam pretty quick here - I think this is about all I can write right now.
Good hearing from you!
-T
Posted by Kath on July 18, 2007, at 14:06:37
In reply to Re: Rehab 'intake' meeting Monday; possible snag » Kath, posted by TexasChic on July 17, 2007, at 20:59:57
Yeah, we'll see what happens. Right now he's in a lot of pain - thinks he's in the process of passing a kidney stone. He has a big history of kidney stone problems.
Hey, how are you liking your new place? You moved a while ago, right?
luv, Kath
PS - good luck on your long-hour week.
Posted by Phillipa on July 18, 2007, at 19:26:28
In reply to Re: Rehab 'intake' meeting Monday; possible snag » TexasChic, posted by Kath on July 18, 2007, at 14:06:37
Kath a blessing in disguise????Love Phillipa
Posted by TexasChic on July 18, 2007, at 21:31:00
In reply to Re: Rehab 'intake' meeting Monday; possible snag » Kath, posted by Phillipa on July 18, 2007, at 19:26:28
My brother has had kidney stones in the past - the pain is supposed to be comparable to childbirth! Like Phillipa said, maybe a blessing in disguise (he won't feel like going out). On the other hand, intense pain would make anyone want drugs (although I don't know if cocaine is much of a pain killer, it was never really my thing what with my anxiety and all).
As for me, I'm doing great in my new place. Its more room than I've ever had (in the past I only lived in efficiencies. Its a great refuge after all these 12 hour days. Its hard to wind down after trying to keep yourself focused for so long.
Hope you're doing well too.
-T
Posted by Kath on July 19, 2007, at 9:58:26
In reply to Re: Rehab 'intake' meeting Monday; possible snag, posted by TexasChic on July 18, 2007, at 21:31:00
Last night he said he can feel the stone is moving down (the pain's moved and he can feel it when he pees) so it might be out by tomorrow....who knows.
We discussed the situation last night. At that point, he didn't have a ride, so THAT was good. I know he phoned his friend to see if there's room in anyone else's car. I'm hoping NOT!!!!!
He is taking percocets for the pain. He says they do nothing for him that would cause him to misuse them. Our doctor told me that by the frequency with which Jay gets perscriptions, he doesn't think he's not misusing them. Unfortunately, they don't do much for the pain either.
One time that he was in hospital, a nurse told us that she'd had kids and had kidney stones & kidney stone pain was worse for her than labour!
Yikes. I guess with labour at least it lets up in between pains to a large extent.
TC I'm so glad you're enjoying your new place. 12 HOUR DAYS!!!!!!!!!! How many in a row?
hugs Phillipa & Texas C :-) Kath
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