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Posted by karen_kay on April 16, 2007, at 12:45:32
In reply to Having problems, posted by Declan on April 16, 2007, at 3:11:56
just so you aren't feeling ignored, i haven't a clue. i live in indiana (where pretty much everyone is about as close to homeless as homeless can be :) so, if you're interested in helping the needy, you can always send me some sand?
honestly though, when i've traveled (rarely), i've never heard of such things. i know they prefer you not feed birds in public. and i do know that in certain towns, they send homeless on their way with bus tickets to other states. one way, that is. suppose that's one way of fixing the problem of homeless close to home?
Posted by Phillipa on April 16, 2007, at 12:50:40
In reply to Re: Having problems » Declan, posted by karen_kay on April 16, 2007, at 12:45:32
Declan I've not heard of it being illegal to feedd them as there are soup kitchens for the homeless. Love Phillipa
Posted by Kath on April 16, 2007, at 13:00:06
In reply to Is it wrong to hate? Can it be justified?, posted by Michael83 on April 15, 2007, at 20:03:53
I've been told that feeings are FEELINGS.
They are neither right now wrong. It's what we DO with (or about) them that is right or wrong.
But feelings just ARE.
Kath (hugs to ya)
Posted by Kath on April 16, 2007, at 13:04:31
In reply to Re: Michael83, posted by TheMeanReds on April 16, 2007, at 12:37:27
Posted by Kath on April 16, 2007, at 13:06:20
In reply to Having problems, posted by Declan on April 16, 2007, at 3:11:56
> Is it true that you need a permit to feed the homeless in some parts of the US?
>
> That's what I read in the papers here.I read that in a Canadian paper also. I believe it was in one town, but they mentioned other places as well.
I didn't get the impression that it was all over the place but it's a pretty darned disturbing thought.
Kath
Posted by scratchpad on April 16, 2007, at 13:38:30
In reply to Re: Having problems, posted by Phillipa on April 16, 2007, at 12:50:40
> Declan I've not heard of it being illegal to feedd them as there are soup kitchens for the homeless. Love Phillipa
You have to have enough parking (at least here where I live in Florida where the homeless tents are legally slashed by the police) at a facility where homeless are fed.
Honest to god.
sp
Posted by karen_kay on April 16, 2007, at 15:31:24
In reply to Michael83 » karen_kay, posted by TheMeanReds on April 16, 2007, at 12:35:55
'well, how'd i screw that one up?'
it did make me laugh to be called a bigot though, for what it's worth. i'm not trying to be insensitive, uncivil or all of the above. just honest.
Posted by Fivefires on April 16, 2007, at 15:59:25
In reply to Note, posted by Michael83 on April 16, 2007, at 6:19:51
Yeah that's a good little note there Michael.
Now understand.
seeya, 5f
Posted by Kath on April 16, 2007, at 16:03:19
In reply to i was thinking... » TheMeanReds, posted by karen_kay on April 16, 2007, at 15:31:24
Hi Sweetie,
he didn't mean you! He corrected that afterward.
luv ya, & yer NOT a b***** whatever.
luv, Kath
Posted by Michael83 on April 16, 2007, at 16:09:55
In reply to Re: Michael83, posted by TheMeanReds on April 16, 2007, at 12:37:27
LOL I think it's funny you think I'm a bigot. To imply there are no wrongs, and that hating anyone is, no matter how wrong of a person they are, is wrong.
Posted by Michael83 on April 16, 2007, at 16:11:51
In reply to shoot... » Michael83, posted by karen_kay on April 16, 2007, at 8:56:55
You're probably not the kind I'm thinking of. =P You're too nice to be a real hillbilly.
Posted by Phillipa on April 16, 2007, at 19:50:40
In reply to Re: Having problems » Phillipa, posted by scratchpad on April 16, 2007, at 13:38:30
Tents????? it's that bad there????? That's horrible. Love Phillipa
Posted by karen_kay on April 16, 2007, at 20:40:34
In reply to Re: i was thinking... » karen_kay, posted by Kath on April 16, 2007, at 16:03:19
the way you had that bleeped that someone called me a b#tch.
i thought 'well, how'd i screw up there? i know i didn't come across that way!' (or perhaps i did? oh well, who cares anyway? and NO that is not a manipulation stating that i want people to come bowing at my feet stating "I CARE I CARE!" i just want to see a cat and flamingo fight. is there really anything wrong with that?)
Posted by scratchpad on April 16, 2007, at 21:58:37
In reply to Re: Having problems » scratchpad, posted by Phillipa on April 16, 2007, at 19:50:40
> Tents????? it's that bad there????? That's horrible. Love Phillipa
Yes, our tent cities (citizens donated tents so the homeless would have some protection from the elements if they couldn't get into shelters) have been making news for some time now.
At one point the police department decided that the tents constituted fire hazards, and they slashed them apart.And the person who tried to have their own soup kitchen for the homeless was closed down because the city said he had to provide parking spaces (as if it was a restaurant). It was such an embarrassment for the city to have such ineffective ordinances being enforced.
A bad case of NIMB (not in my backyard).
sp
Posted by Phillipa on April 16, 2007, at 22:25:02
In reply to Re: Having problems - the homeless » Phillipa, posted by scratchpad on April 16, 2007, at 21:58:37
SP what's this country coming too? Love Phillipa
Posted by scratchpad on April 16, 2007, at 23:17:24
In reply to Re: Having problems - the homeless » scratchpad, posted by Phillipa on April 16, 2007, at 22:25:02
> SP what's this country coming too? Love Phillipa
Hmm... I bet Don Imus would have an opinion, if he hadn't been removed from the air. (And I wouldn't have wanted to hear his opinion, either.)
I think it is a serious deterioration of our society on a grand scale. A view of entitlement versus social responsibility. And I think that our political representatives dance around the real issues, as deftly as they can, so that the real core issues are not addressed.
Issues like bigotry. Racism. Misogyny. Discrimination of ALL types. The scales, as they say, fell from my eyes when I moved to Florida. At no other time in my life have I been witness to such outright expressions of intolerance, of so many kinds, from so many people. In every place I worked, I discovered such intolerances. It sickened me greatly.
I do believe that the discovery contributed in part to my fall with depression. So see so bare-facedly, the true nature of your neighbours and coworkers... it scared me to death.At the same time I believe that such attitudes and opinions can be educated into obliteration. Which is partly why I appreciate the stringent civility guidelines here.
sp
Posted by Phillipa on April 16, 2007, at 23:24:34
In reply to Re: Having problems - the homeless » Phillipa, posted by scratchpad on April 16, 2007, at 23:17:24
Yes I see your point. You know how I keep saying I want to nurse again? Well from what I've heard lately the grass always looks greener on the other side. Love Phillipa terrible medical care no doc knows a thing it's specialist to specialist where they bilk your money. The boomers will have nothing. Guess I better watch it or this will end up on a board I have no intention of going to.
Posted by Declan on April 17, 2007, at 3:25:52
In reply to Re: Having problems » Declan, posted by karen_kay on April 16, 2007, at 12:45:32
Karen
It was something I posted in anger and regretted immediately. (There were these connections in my mind.)
It is best to live our lives so we have less to regret.
Michael had a legitimate question.Maybe I've seen too many films where disparagement of the less fortunate is justified.
One of the (few) advantages of a class system over a meritocracy is that failure is judged less harshly.
Posted by gardenergirl on April 17, 2007, at 9:11:31
In reply to Re: Underclass? Seriously? » Michael83, posted by madeline on April 16, 2007, at 7:03:10
Thanks for posting that about your background and your values.
namasté
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on April 17, 2007, at 9:20:20
In reply to Michael83 » karen_kay, posted by TheMeanReds on April 16, 2007, at 12:35:55
> bigot.
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Posted by gardenergirl on April 17, 2007, at 9:31:17
In reply to I'm not even a depty but sounds like a PBC to me (nm) » TheMeanReds, posted by Kath on April 16, 2007, at 13:04:31
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Posted by gardenergirl on April 17, 2007, at 9:36:04
In reply to Re: shoot... » karen_kay, posted by Michael83 on April 16, 2007, at 16:11:51
> You're probably not the kind I'm thinking of. =P You're too nice to be a real hillbilly.
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Posted by gardenergirl on April 17, 2007, at 9:54:59
In reply to Re: Having problems - the homeless » Phillipa, posted by scratchpad on April 16, 2007, at 23:17:24
As a white woman, it's harder for me to try to really feel what it feels like for someone to hate, scorn, disparage, look down on, or discriminate against me based on my "membership" in any particular group (though being a woman has it's moments). That's a privilege that comes from being in the majority and dominant culture, whether I want or asked for that privilege or not.
But I wonder...which is worse? Overt bigotry and hatred? Or covert? With overt, at least you know where someone stands, right? For example, the so-called neo-nazi group which recently canceled or postponed its march in a predominantly African-American and lower social economic status neighborhood in my city is pretty clear on their views towards African-Americans. Whereas someone who is more covertly racist, maybe someone who is even unaware of those thoughts and feelings, could do more long term "damage", perhaps? Could this lead to feelings of betrayal or sort of but not quite like being "played for a fool" by those in the group or groups the person has negative feelings about?
Or maybe do people pick up on the covert as well as the overt, so they adapt as appropriate either way.
I don't know why I wonder this. Just one of those things I ponder occasionally. One of those things that makes me feel terribly sheltered and naive.
I suppose the overt would be more immediately damaging and hurtful. And something right there out in the open might serve as a role model of behavior for others, God forbid. But I wonder if the covert stuff might be more insidious and harder to eradicate.
I don't know.
namasté
gg
Posted by scratchpad on April 17, 2007, at 14:58:14
In reply to Which is better (or worse)? covert or overt? » scratchpad, posted by gardenergirl on April 17, 2007, at 9:54:59
With overt displays you can just cross over to walk on the other side of the street if you want to avoid contact with such a person.
sp
Posted by Kath on April 17, 2007, at 14:59:52
In reply to Please follow site guidelines » Kath, posted by gardenergirl on April 17, 2007, at 9:31:17
OK - sorry; didn't notice it there!
Kath
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