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Posted by corafree on October 4, 2006, at 17:00:25
No doubt an artist gifted w/ eyes and words for stark details. Maybe details so stark, he was plagued with tunnel vision.
He expounded black-n-white, almost simple, almost humorous, yet passionate, revelations of details, because, ... he was afraid.
He feared what he could not see (or did not want to see), and, in an effort to avoid the exposure of this, which, out of respect for him, I hope he recognized in himself, combined w/ his fear, which, out of respect for him, I hope he recognized in himself, ... his passionate revelations 'hit you in the face' or 'caught you in your step'.
I think it was fear of unseen and unexplained, and 'hell' on earth, which drove him to create.
I wonder ... Was he begging us to read between the lines, or, Was he so afraid, he was comforted by hiding, or, Was he oblivious and even flippant.
cf
Posted by Declan on October 4, 2006, at 18:21:09
In reply to My take on Oscar Wilde, posted by corafree on October 4, 2006, at 17:00:25
It is interesting that he stayed to face trial. His mother said he should stay. His friends (some, anyway) wanted him to leave. He could have, and he didn't. I think he thought that it was an issue of principle. It took defiance to say to the court (in the bit of evidence that swung the feeling) that he was not attracted to whoever it was because he was 'very plain'.
What can you say? He is remembered and they are not, except through association with him. It would have been nicer to treat him well when he was alive though. English speaking nations suck at stuff like this.
Posted by Jost on October 4, 2006, at 19:04:48
In reply to Re: My take on Oscar Wilde » corafree, posted by Declan on October 4, 2006, at 18:21:09
I tend to think his staying for trial was a massive miscalculation of what the upper classes were willing to tolerate done to one of their own number (not him, but the other guy), in the name of prosecuting homosexuals.
A very costly miscalculation, too.
(See above at end of Astrology, if interested, for a plot summary of the "Importance of Being Earnest" which, if I had known about this thread, I would have put here.)
Jost
Posted by Phillipa on October 4, 2006, at 20:38:10
In reply to Re: My take on Oscar Wilde » Declan, posted by Jost on October 4, 2006, at 19:04:48
Okay my ignornance I know the name but for the life of me can't remember a thing about him?????Love Phillipa
Posted by Jost on October 4, 2006, at 23:00:21
In reply to Re: My take on Oscar Wilde » Jost, posted by Phillipa on October 4, 2006, at 20:38:10
Hi, Phillipa.
I'm looking for my biography of Oscar Wilde, but so far, no luck. If I find it, I'll tell you more. He was a Victorian poet, playwright, wit, and flamboyant personality, who lived from 1856-1900 and wrote the Importance of Being Earnest, which is still a popular play, and the Ballad of Reading Gaol ( a poem about a condemned man), among other things.
Jost
Posted by Declan on October 5, 2006, at 2:53:48
In reply to Re: My take on Oscar Wilde » Declan, posted by Jost on October 4, 2006, at 19:04:48
Maybe. There was a book recently on the issue of principle thing that sugested he stayed because he meant to. Dunno if this is the influence of queer studies or identity politics. There's all sorts of books arguing the allocation of blame. After the authorities (taken as read) there has been the Douglases and his mother. I liked the Robert Morely version of him.
Posted by Jay on October 5, 2006, at 13:09:04
In reply to My take on Oscar Wilde, posted by corafree on October 4, 2006, at 17:00:25
One of my favourite Oscar lines. So, so very true.. I absolutely love reading biographies of excellent writers and poets, because in it you usually find they have suffered through mental extremities of hell. I know that sounds weird to "enjoy" reading, but you get to see what shaped their beautiful masterpieces. You don't feel so alone anymore.
Jay
Posted by corafree on October 5, 2006, at 14:56:20
In reply to Re: My take on Oscar Wilde » Declan, posted by Jost on October 4, 2006, at 19:04:48
J, agree re: miscalculation.
Also, I wish he'd not listened to his mother. I wonder more about his relationship with her. She maybe in 'denial' or maybe I shouldn't be so harsh. I know I shouldn't listen to my mother.
bummed, cf
Posted by Phillipa on October 5, 2006, at 19:59:24
In reply to I can learn to resist..anything but temptation.. » corafree, posted by Jay on October 5, 2006, at 13:09:04
Jay I understand completely it helps to make you feel less alone with mental issues. I'm the same way. Love Phillipa
Posted by Declan on October 5, 2006, at 20:11:32
In reply to Re: I can learn to resist..anything but temptation.. » Jay, posted by Phillipa on October 5, 2006, at 19:59:24
My wallpaper and I are fighting a duel to the death. One of us must go.
One of his last ones before dying, I think.
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