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Posted by alexandra_k on September 17, 2006, at 20:36:31
In reply to Re: Guys, I'm really upset » alexandra_k, posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2006, at 20:25:53
> Maybe I can try. It's something people say in the US. If let's says you keep threatening to do something and don't over and over again. If you acturally do it's the boy who cried wolf. Threatened to do something so many times that when he actually did no one belived he would.
'Threatening'
The trouble I have with the application of this story (yeah, I've heard the story) is that it can lead to the conclusion that one HAS to follow through otherwise people will conclude that you are... Crying wolf.
And so... I'm not sure that the story helps.
I feel so upset I'm thinking about killing myself.
Sometimes thats what one means to say.
It is just that it gets muddled...
And when people interpret it as a threat and talk about 'crying wolf' well...
I just know that in my own case...
It can lead to my feeling a whole heap worse.I probably should have just stayed out of this.
I got to thinking this morning on my way into work.
Dammit... I can't remember what it is called... But I think I identify too strongly with Deneb sometimes and what I say escalates the situation rather than helping to smooth things over.
I'm sorry everyone for my part in this conversation.
I know people are just trying to help.
Posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2006, at 20:55:38
In reply to Re: Guys, I'm really upset, posted by alexandra_k on September 17, 2006, at 20:36:31
Well you understand the story. That's good love Phillipa
Posted by TexasChic on September 17, 2006, at 21:01:29
In reply to Re: Guys, I'm really upset, posted by alexandra_k on September 17, 2006, at 20:36:31
Hope you're feeling better Deneb. There's always someone that's going to dislike you, at least that's been my experience. You just have to learn to live with it and move on. I hope that doesn't sound too harsh, its just what I've learned. You have to learn to trust your judgement about yourself over others. Just because they're someone other than YOU doesn't mean they must be right. There are alot of people out there that are totally full of crap. Don't forget that.
-T
Posted by Deneb on September 17, 2006, at 21:20:15
In reply to Re: Guys, I'm really upset, posted by TexasChic on September 17, 2006, at 21:01:29
Posted by sunnydays on September 17, 2006, at 21:29:37
In reply to Re: I'm not OK, I need hugs (nm), posted by Deneb on September 17, 2006, at 21:20:15
(((((Deneb))))
What do you enjoy doing? Take a few deep breaths and try to do something you enjoy - a craft project, watching TV, whatever. Not everyone in the world is going to like you, but that's no reason to kill yourself. It happens to everyone. Try to stay away from that group and do something you really enjoy instead. Stay safe.
sunnydays
Posted by TexasChic on September 17, 2006, at 21:33:21
In reply to Re: I'm not OK, I need hugs (nm), posted by Deneb on September 17, 2006, at 21:20:15
Posted by Deneb on September 17, 2006, at 21:40:03
In reply to Re: I'm not OK, I need hugs » Deneb, posted by sunnydays on September 17, 2006, at 21:29:37
I can't block myself from that site because i know the password. I'm going to make up a password I won't remember, but I need someone to keep it safe for me for the future if I need to change my settings.
I can't resist going back to that site and everytime I do I just end up wanting to kill myself.
Right now I don't know if I'm going to class tomorrow or buying a rope tomorrow.
I just want to feel cared right now. I don't really want any advice. Some of it is making me feel worse, even though I know that wasn't the intention.
Who will keep my password safe?
Deneb*
Posted by alexandra_k on September 17, 2006, at 22:15:21
In reply to Re: Help me block myself from that site *trigger*, posted by Deneb on September 17, 2006, at 21:40:03
> I'm going to make up a password I won't remember
That sounds like a really good idea.
> I need someone to keep it safe for me for the future if I need to change my settings.
Why will you need to change your settings if you aren't going to be posting there again?
> I can't resist going back to that site and everytime I do I just end up wanting to kill myself.Do you tend to go to that site when you are feeling distressed / irritable?
This too will pass and then you will feel better. You have been doing pretty well lately :-)I think that before you change your password you should post that you are okay and that you aren't going to kill yourself.
I know that you feel like people there don't care about you...
But I'm sure that while a few people from there might be feeling upset there are others who aren't feeling upset with you. They might feel upset if they think you are going to kill yourself. They might feel scared about if they don't call the cops then you might kill yourself.
If you are feeling really very bad... Can you phone your p-doc and try and get in to see her? Can you talk to her about what happened?
I figure you were probably pretty tired and I know when I feel tired I feel cranky and it doesn't take much before I end up spinning out...
But it would be worth exploring why you go over there...
At some point.
But first... I really think you should let people know that you are alive and that you don't need them to call the cops.
Posted by Deneb on September 17, 2006, at 22:35:43
In reply to Re: Help me block myself from that site *trigger* » Deneb, posted by alexandra_k on September 17, 2006, at 22:15:21
> > I need someone to keep it safe for me for the future if I need to change my settings.
>
> Why will you need to change your settings if you aren't going to be posting there again?When content advisor is enabled it oftentimes blocks sites without ratings, and most of these sites are fairly innocuous.
>
> > I can't resist going back to that site and everytime I do I just end up wanting to kill myself.
>
> Do you tend to go to that site when you are feeling distressed / irritable?I think I go back expecting people will suddenly be supportive towards me.
> This too will pass and then you will feel better. You have been doing pretty well lately :-)
Yeah, until now. Can't blame it on not talking meds this time.
>
> I think that before you change your password you should post that you are okay and that you aren't going to kill yourself.I don't think that would be a good idea. The people there would really like to see me disappear.
> I know that you feel like people there don't care about you...
>
> But I'm sure that while a few people from there might be feeling upset there are others who aren't feeling upset with you. They might feel upset if they think you are going to kill yourself. They might feel scared about if they don't call the cops then you might kill yourself.I never said outright that I was going to kill myself. I said I was "thinking" about it, which is different. The people who cared enough to tell me to call 911 did their part and I'm sure they want to see me disappear now.
>
> If you are feeling really very bad... Can you phone your p-doc and try and get in to see her? Can you talk to her about what happened?Yes, I will tell her what happened, but I'm not sure it will help me.
> But first... I really think you should let people know that you are alive and that you don't need them to call the cops.
I don't think anyone there really thinks I'm going to kill myself. It doesn't seem to me like anyone here thinks I'm capable, so why should they? Most think I'm a troll anyways. Those who do probably don't care if I die.
Deneb*
Posted by Deneb on September 17, 2006, at 23:49:18
In reply to Re: Help me block myself from that site *trigger* » alexandra_k, posted by Deneb on September 17, 2006, at 22:35:43
I'm feeling better now. I'm going to class tomorrow. I blocked myself from that site.
I'm getting sleepy now. I think melatonin is helping reset my circadian rhythm.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/melatonin/NS_patient-melatonin
Deneb*
Posted by rainbutterfly on September 18, 2006, at 9:30:24
In reply to Re: Thanks for helping me out, posted by Deneb on September 17, 2006, at 23:49:18
(((((((((( Deneb )))))))))))
These have no expiry date, so feel free to save them if you so wish,
(could use some hugs myself)
Take care,
Butterfly
Posted by Deneb on September 18, 2006, at 11:25:32
In reply to Re: Thanks for helping me out, posted by Deneb on September 17, 2006, at 23:49:18
Couldn't sleep, couldn't get out of bed, don't give a damn anymore. :-(
Deneb*
Posted by rainbutterfly on September 18, 2006, at 12:20:33
In reply to Re: I'm skipping class :-(, posted by Deneb on September 18, 2006, at 11:25:32
Hope that isn't my "fault" as well :o(
Posted by Deneb on September 18, 2006, at 16:22:17
In reply to Re: I'm skipping class :-( » Deneb, posted by rainbutterfly on September 18, 2006, at 12:20:33
All you did was help me, how could it have been your fault? It's no one's fault but mine. I think I'm just feeling sorry for myself and falling into bad habits again.
Ugh, I feel terrible after staying in bed until 5 PM. I have this irresistible urge to visit that Usenet newsgroup again. Good thing I don't know the password to unblock that site for me.
I really need to study. I have an exam on the 30th.
Deneb*
Posted by Deneb on September 18, 2006, at 16:45:07
In reply to Re: I'm skipping class :-(, posted by Deneb on September 18, 2006, at 16:22:17
I love Dr. Bob. I love Babblers. I love people who help me. I love people who hug me. I love it when people show me they care.
I want to come to Babble whenever I'm upset and get lots and lots of virtual hugs.
Deneb*
Posted by Deneb on September 18, 2006, at 17:16:03
In reply to Re: I love you, posted by Deneb on September 18, 2006, at 16:45:07
Would it be a horrible thing if I called the distress centre even though I'm not suicidal right now?
I want to talk to someone about being called a troll and skipping class. I don't feel good. I need some motivation again. I want someone to convince me that there's hope in my future.
Anyone willing to talk to me in chat? Sorry if I ask too much.
Deneb*
Posted by rainbutterfly on September 18, 2006, at 17:32:24
In reply to Re:I'm feeling lonely and horrible, posted by Deneb on September 18, 2006, at 17:16:03
Deneb, I can certainly relate to how STINKY it is being called...... things that you are not.
And, I used to skip classes and got my degree. I am sure you will too.
I am not able to chat today. (Hope you find someone to chat with, I never know when people are around here). I don't think it would be bad or horrible at all to call the distress centre, although I am no "expert". Please keep yourself safe,
((((( Deneb )))))
butterfly
Posted by Phillipa on September 18, 2006, at 19:26:08
In reply to Re:I'm feeling lonely and horrible » Deneb, posted by rainbutterfly on September 18, 2006, at 17:32:24
Deneb are you taking your meds? Your old patterns are returning. Love Phillipa
Posted by Deneb on September 18, 2006, at 20:01:24
In reply to Re:I'm feeling lonely and horrible, posted by Phillipa on September 18, 2006, at 19:26:08
> Deneb are you taking your meds? Your old patterns are returning. Love Phillipa
Yes, I've been taking my meds. I'm pretty sure most of my moods have nothing at all to do with whether or not I'm taking meds. I didn't take my Wellbutrin today though because I was too depressed and stayed in bed until 5 PM.
I need to think and behave myself out of this, but I sure do wish there was a happy pill out there for me.
Deneb*
Posted by alexandra_k on September 18, 2006, at 20:47:58
In reply to Re:I'm feeling lonely and horrible » Phillipa, posted by Deneb on September 18, 2006, at 20:01:24
Quite often there can be a range of things that impact quite significantly on mood.
- taking meds
- getting adequate sleep
- having enough to eat
etc etcSometimes an alteration in one of those can throw things out considerably.
There is some stuff available online about sleep hygene.
Sounds to me like your sleep schedule got significantly out of wack.
Maybe... Take it easy for the next week or so?
Do you know how many hours sleep you need (round about?)
I wish there was a happy pill too...
Unfortunately...It is more about learning how to manage different bits of your life
Figuring out how different things impact on your mood and stuff like that.
Posted by Phillipa on September 18, 2006, at 20:59:40
In reply to Re:I'm feeling lonely and horrible, posted by alexandra_k on September 18, 2006, at 20:47:58
Yeah it's so hard. I wish for the magic pill too. Love Phillipa ps how's the weather there hear confliciting reports some say hot some say cold
Posted by alexandra_k on September 18, 2006, at 21:48:46
In reply to Re:I'm feeling lonely and horrible » alexandra_k, posted by Phillipa on September 18, 2006, at 20:59:40
> how's the weather there hear confliciting reports some say hot some say cold
maybe it depends on where they live:
http://www.getaboutoz.com/driving.htm
weather has been great for me. i'd call this summer weather because i'm used to a great deal more wind and rain during spring. it is fairly windy today but i think temperature wise it is up on yesterday. it will be too hot before we know it...
:-)
Posted by Phillipa on September 18, 2006, at 21:55:56
In reply to Re: the weather » Phillipa, posted by alexandra_k on September 18, 2006, at 21:48:46
Wow about l500miles between Melbourne and Sydney? Of course my math is probably off I hate math. Love Phillipa ps thanks for the map Alex.
Posted by alexandra_k on September 18, 2006, at 21:58:45
In reply to Re: the weather » alexandra_k, posted by Phillipa on September 18, 2006, at 21:55:56
I just found this. You can change the country to get comparisons round the world. You can change what you are looking at too (It should be on heat hopefully but you can change it to wind chill and the like). It has NZ on it too (bottom right of the Aussie map)
:-)
http://www.findlocalweather.com/weather_maps/heat_index_australia.html
Posted by Phillipa on September 18, 2006, at 22:54:47
In reply to Re: the weather, posted by alexandra_k on September 18, 2006, at 21:58:45
The part at the top in red is the hottest right. But Melbourne and Sydney are on the bottom right? Where are you on the map in the red or orange? And yes I saw NZ. Love Phillipa ps what's at the top of Australia I thought that was all backwoods.
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