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Posted by gardenergirl on September 11, 2006, at 21:45:21
(Wow, three in a row from me....that's got to be a first!)
So, what do you do with something like this?
There's this significant thing. And someone goes to talk about it--talk about the gravity and the signficance and all, at least I assume. Being an emotional, empathetic kind of gal, to me it's about the people. That's the significance and gravity of the thing. So okay, that someone talks about the people for a bit. So far so good; a nice message.
But then they go on and on about other crap.
Then they take that nice, significant, and meaningful message, and they knock it down.
What do you do while they kick it while down?
Stomp on it a bit?
Pour gasoline on it?
Light it on fire?
Laugh as it burns?
Lie that it's not burning?
Piss on it while they pump their fists in the air?
I'm disgusted. I'm angry. And other than wondering what the consequences of delivering a forehead flick, feeling rather helpless about it all.
Best I can do for now, come what may.
gg
Posted by Daisym on September 12, 2006, at 0:51:37
In reply to What do you do with this? :( **trigger** probably, posted by gardenergirl on September 11, 2006, at 21:45:21
"Can you say more about this? You seem very angry..."
I like the forehead flick though. Seems appropriate for whatever bs is happening to you. I had a class in analytic symbolism this weekend. Your post is a humdinger. :)
Posted by rainbutterfly on September 12, 2006, at 1:06:49
In reply to What do you do with this? :( **trigger** probably, posted by gardenergirl on September 11, 2006, at 21:45:21
I'd be tempted to tell them exactly what I thought of them. If I did though I would probably be history, being a delicate butterfly :o(
Posted by Racer on September 12, 2006, at 2:22:43
In reply to What do you do with this? :( **trigger** probably, posted by gardenergirl on September 11, 2006, at 21:45:21
That abstract ideals are meaningless without the human context, therefore the people really are the important part.
But really, I think you'd better count me as another vote for the forehead flick...
Posted by gardenergirl on September 12, 2006, at 7:09:33
In reply to Re: What do you do with this? :( **trigger** probably » gardenergirl, posted by Daisym on September 12, 2006, at 0:51:37
Thanks. It's pretty much a word by word account of my reaction in the moment. Kinda startled my husband.
About all I can say is that I was watching someone make a speech, and I was really angry about what I heard. I'm primed to be angry about it, though. But this was over the top, imo. I can't give any more details, since I don't wish to offend those who might have a different reaction. I realize I was pretty graphic and very clear how I felt. :)
Hubby and I argued about the forehead flick, btw. I really do want to know what the likely consequences would be. He thought it was too silly to talk about, and I think felt that I was making light. I told him that a FF was about the only thing I could do to make any real impact. I can't punch the person out, because 1) I don't punch people; 2) I'd probably miss by a mile and actually hurt myself; and 3) I'd probably be hauled away and perhaps given a psychiatric evaluation since I have a mental disorder. Besides, that's not really the feeling I have. It's more of a dope-slap kind of thing versus an anger/violent kind of thing, if there is a difference.
I've tried letters and emails. I would probably turn my back, but I really do think the FF would truly express what I think and how I feel. I kinda imagine the father might do that either metaphorically or perhaps even actually, though. Or the wife? :)
And of course there is also the issue that the speaker won't give a hoot about my reaction, anyway. So it's just for me. Not worth getting arrested and put on a list about (probably already on a list--darn those membership cards!).
>:^0
gg, who's going to do something positive for change tonight. No FF's in sight.
Posted by gardenergirl on September 12, 2006, at 7:30:40
In reply to Re: What do you do with this? :( **trigger** probably » gardenergirl, posted by rainbutterfly on September 12, 2006, at 1:06:49
> I'd be tempted to tell them exactly what I thought of them. If I did though I would probably be history, being a delicate butterfly :o(
I suppose it would depend on who was around and what was said. But protect those feathers. (is that what they are?) Wings don't work so well without them.
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on September 12, 2006, at 7:31:36
In reply to Well, you could explain the philosophy... » gardenergirl, posted by Racer on September 12, 2006, at 2:22:43
> That abstract ideals are meaningless without the human context, therefore the people really are the important part.
>
> But really, I think you'd better count me as another vote for the forehead flick...Done. But I might need you to be a character witness or to bail me out. :)
gg
Posted by llrrrpp on September 12, 2006, at 9:23:28
In reply to What do you do with this? :( **trigger** probably, posted by gardenergirl on September 11, 2006, at 21:45:21
Hi gardenergirl. I just about freaked out when I read your post. read this part that you wrote over again.
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> So, what do you do with something like this?
>
> There's this significant thing. And someone goes to talk about it--talk about the gravity and the signficance and all, at least I assume. Being an emotional, empathetic kind of gal, to me it's about the people. That's the significance and gravity of the thing. So okay, that someone talks about the people for a bit. So far so good; a nice message.
>
> But then they go on and on about other crap.
>
> Then they take that nice, significant, and meaningful message, and they knock it down.
>
> What do you do while they kick it while down?
>
> Stomp on it a bit?
>
> Pour gasoline on it?
>
> Light it on fire?
>
> Laugh as it burns?
>
> Lie that it's not burning?
>
> Piss on it while they pump their fists in the air?
>
> I'm disgusted. I'm angry. And other than wondering what the consequences of delivering a forehead flick, feeling rather helpless about it all.
>
> Best I can do for now, come what may.
>
> ggOkay, and now read this thing that I posted mere minutes earlier on the psychology board yesterday
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20060911/msgs/685154.html
notice any similarity in the language, the words used, the images? I know that gasoline and kicking are common idioms, but still. I read your post and I was totally freaked out that you were either referring to me?? or possibly primed by me to think strong thoughts. A trigger of sorts.
I'm SO glad that you decided to explain yourself more fully. Now I know what you're reacting to. I avoided the mass media yesterday for exactly this reason.
I suppose our two simultaneous posts are an example of strange coincidence. Great minds thinking alike, or as my husband says "great mind[s] feel alike" I like his version better.
Anyways, thanks for explaining. I would have been scratching my head all day today (at the very least(, and maybe getting a freak out reaction, or worse.
-ll
Posted by Racer on September 12, 2006, at 10:08:27
In reply to Re: What do you do with this? :( **trigger** prob, posted by gardenergirl on September 12, 2006, at 7:09:33
See, I thought you were reacting to something else...
Forget the forehead flick. On this one, the burning bag of dog droppings on the porch, or maybe chocolate pudding in the pillow.
You know those little Baby Ruth bars? The minis? Wait until speaker goes swimming, throw a dozen in the pool near him...
Ipecac in his Jello.
Duct tape him to a chair, with a gag, and explain you won't let him up until he develops a mature and compassionate view of humanity.
Public flogging.
I'm going to stop now. Like Lurp, though, I avoided any chance of seeing such things. I can honestly tell you, Law & Order reruns have a useful place in this world...
By the way, yesterday was the 23rd anniversary of my beloved grandmother's death. She died at 8:10AM Pacific Daylight Time, with me on one side of her bed, and my aunt on the other. We'd been with her since about 6AM, after the nurse called to say her vital signs were changing, and they thought this was the end. My anniversary grief... (Wonder if that explains some of my recent depression? Doubt it, though...)
Posted by Phillipa on September 12, 2006, at 11:42:08
In reply to Ah... Now that you've explained... » gardenergirl, posted by Racer on September 12, 2006, at 10:08:27
Glad I don't watch TV not very often at least. Love Phillipa
Posted by gardenergirl on September 12, 2006, at 12:41:31
In reply to Re: What do you do with this? :( **trigger** prob » gardenergirl, posted by llrrrpp on September 12, 2006, at 9:23:28
Holy moly, that is freaky! And so close in time...
Maybe we have a psychic connection.
Glad you were helped by my explanation. I think you were wise to avoid the media blitz. And sorry that you've got something that evokes such strong words and images, too. :(
Take care,
gg
Posted by rainbutterfly on September 12, 2006, at 14:03:52
In reply to Re: What do you do with this? :( **trigger** prob » gardenergirl, posted by llrrrpp on September 12, 2006, at 9:23:28
Reading with interest,
xo butterfly
Posted by henrietta on September 12, 2006, at 18:43:49
In reply to Re: What do you do with this? :( **trigger** prob » llrrrpp, posted by rainbutterfly on September 12, 2006, at 14:03:52
I'm glad I stuck to my policy of not watching, ever. If gg got this upset, I would have had a stroke and died. Keeled over dead, and a number of people IRL would have been devastated.
Posted by henrietta on September 12, 2006, at 18:54:26
In reply to Re: What do you do with this? :( **trigger** prob, posted by henrietta on September 12, 2006, at 18:43:49
not to mention the pounds and pounds of organic, home-grown tomatoes that would not have been canned,the greens and basil and cilantro I wouldn't have been able to harvest, the second (no, third) crop of beans, the winter squash that would rot, the children I would not have been able to tutor (as a volunteer)---the husband, sister, brothers, father, nieces, nephews I would
why am i writing this?
F it.
Posted by finelinebob on September 13, 2006, at 21:31:18
In reply to What do you do with this? :( **trigger** probably, posted by gardenergirl on September 11, 2006, at 21:45:21
> I'm disgusted. I'm angry. And other than wondering what the consequences of delivering a forehead flick, feeling rather helpless about it all.
First time I read that, I could have sworn you said a "forehead lick"
Posted by gardenergirl on September 14, 2006, at 12:18:58
In reply to With this?! :( **trigger** most def 8*P, posted by finelinebob on September 13, 2006, at 21:31:18
Bring me the iodine!
gg
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